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#262545 - 04/12/18 06:36 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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In all honesty it may have been the weakest of all the camps my son has attended for the 2023's. We left before it ended but this team is quickly losing players and I just heard the HC has been replaced yet again. Unless something changes drastically this team is in for a long summer.


Probably shouldn't have scheduled it during Passover

or when the WSL qualifiers are going on for the north and east.

When ignorance and arrogance combine the net result is not positive.

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#262617 - 04/12/18 02:16 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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or when the WSL qualifiers are going on for the north and east.


WSL is 13U - surely you don't believe any 2023 Duke's players are eligible!

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#262691 - 04/13/18 08:28 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Don't think thats what the poster meant. I think poster meant scheduling

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#262716 - 04/13/18 11:04 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Quick question to any parent of a Duke's Nationals players, all you read about on this site is about the depth chart (good and bad) and how important it is that the players on the teams are above the travel line to be able to play. What exactly is Duke's management saying when it posts stuff like "It's not about your status on the Depth Chart. It's about mindset" on Instagram as a noted direct quote from the director of the program? Does the depth chart not matter anymore or is it better to not worry about the depth chart and have a better mindset and that will get the players in. Very confusing message I would think for the players on the depth chart that are told that the depth chart is all that matters.

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#262726 - 04/13/18 12:34 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Quick question to any parent of a Duke's Nationals players, all you read about on this site is about the depth chart (good and bad) and how important it is that the players on the teams are above the travel line to be able to play. What exactly is Duke's management saying when it posts stuff like "It's not about your status on the Depth Chart. It's about mindset" on Instagram as a noted direct quote from the director of the program? Does the depth chart not matter anymore or is it better to not worry about the depth chart and have a better mindset and that will get the players in. Very confusing message I would think for the players on the depth chart that are told that the depth chart is all that matters.



You should probably pose that question on a different age group forum 2023 pretty much now defunct.

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#262769 - 04/13/18 06:26 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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There is at least one 2023 verified eligible Duke headed to Denver

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#262803 - 04/14/18 09:01 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Hi! No one gives a .....

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#262831 - 04/14/18 03:55 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quick question to any parent of a Duke's Nationals players, all you read about on this site is about the depth chart (good and bad) and how important it is that the players on the teams are above the travel line to be able to play. What exactly is Duke's management saying when it posts stuff like "It's not about your status on the Depth Chart. It's about mindset" on Instagram as a noted direct quote from the director of the program? Does the depth chart not matter anymore or is it better to not worry about the depth chart and have a better mindset and that will get the players in. Very confusing message I would think for the players on the depth chart that are told that the depth chart is all that matters.


Here is the best answer to your question. The depth chart is used to get kids to commit to attending a tournament. Once at the tournament and all fees have been paid the depth chart is tossed to the side and a bunch of outside players are brought in while your depth chart kid sits most of the game on the sidelines, unless he's a stud and then he never comes off the field. The only mindset the dukes organization cares about is your commitment to investing your hard earned money in their sinking program.

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#262937 - 04/16/18 08:28 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Quick question to any parent of a Duke's Nationals players, all you read about on this site is about the depth chart (good and bad) and how important it is that the players on the teams are above the travel line to be able to play. What exactly is Duke's management saying when it posts stuff like "It's not about your status on the Depth Chart. It's about mindset" on Instagram as a noted direct quote from the director of the program? Does the depth chart not matter anymore or is it better to not worry about the depth chart and have a better mindset and that will get the players in. Very confusing message I would think for the players on the depth chart that are told that the depth chart is all that matters.


Here is the best answer to your question. The depth chart is used to get kids to commit to attending a tournament. Once at the tournament and all fees have been paid the depth chart is tossed to the side and a bunch of outside players are brought in while your depth chart kid sits most of the game on the sidelines, unless he's a stud and then he never comes off the field. The only mindset the dukes organization cares about is your commitment to investing your hard earned money in their sinking program.
And for everyone who thinks the minicamp fees are outrageous, we have come to realize that the tournament fees are even more ridiculous. That would be why these weak tournaments get added for a $150-250 fee in place of play days where the costs are only be covering ref fees and a lot harder to hide overcharging. We went to a tournament in the fall where we had plenty of kids some of whom were below the "travel line" and got charged $150 for it. Just doing the general math here, I'm pretty sure that tournament's registration fee wasn't $3,000.

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#262938 - 04/16/18 09:26 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Beach Brine $200-

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#262941 - 04/16/18 10:47 AM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Beach Brine $200-


Brine beach lax costs $995 to enter an entire team. Why would you pay $200 to play in it? Are they only bringing 5 kids?

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#262947 - 04/16/18 02:44 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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My ignorance...I had no idea...ugh

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Beach Brine $200-


Brine beach lax costs $995 to enter an entire team. Why would you pay $200 to play in it? Are they only bringing 5 kids?


They have to pay coaches and their travel expenses, plus make a profit for the business. You can't expect the actual fees to be the same as if you entered on your own. However, there is a difference between making a profit and being a pig. They're still being pigs and overcharging significantly. If you figured $1,000 for the coach and his expensed and $1,000 for the club, that's only $80 more per player assuming 20 players. Should be around $120 pp.

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#262971 - 04/17/18 03:56 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Beach Brine $200-


Brine beach lax costs $995 to enter an entire team. Why would you pay $200 to play in it? Are they only bringing 5 kids?


They have to pay coaches and their travel expenses, plus make a profit for the business. You can't expect the actual fees to be the same as if you entered on your own. However, there is a difference between making a profit and being a pig. They're still being pigs and overcharging significantly. If you figured $1,000 for the coach and his expensed and $1,000 for the club, that's only $80 more per player assuming 20 players. Should be around $120 pp.


Why should players have to cover travel expenses for coaches?? I don't get paid for travel expenses when I go to work. It is their job right??? They don't volunteer, pay them for coaching the game, the rest is on them,.

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#262972 - 04/17/18 06:38 PM Re: Duke's Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Beach Brine $200-


Brine beach lax costs $995 to enter an entire team. Why would you pay $200 to play in it? Are they only bringing 5 kids?


They have to pay coaches and their travel expenses, plus make a profit for the business. You can't expect the actual fees to be the same as if you entered on your own. However, there is a difference between making a profit and being a pig. They're still being pigs and overcharging significantly. If you figured $1,000 for the coach and his expensed and $1,000 for the club, that's only $80 more per player assuming 20 players. Should be around $120 pp.


Why should players have to cover travel expenses for coaches?? I don't get paid for travel expenses when I go to work. It is their job right??? They don't volunteer, pay them for coaching the game, the rest is on them,.


Many jobs cover travel expenses for employees when the work requires travel outside the employee's home region. That is the norm.

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