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#254537 - 01/12/18 08:11 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 * [Re: Anonymous]  

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The best teams are "the best" for two reasons:
1) They recruit from other teams making their team better and the other team worse
2) They get holdbacks - best way to be bigger, stronger, faster.

Coaching is of little importance at this age.

As the Dukes proved, just pull together some great kids and with no practices and they can beat the best regular season team easily.


Couldn't disagree more. Coaching has been huge the past few years and will continue to be this year. Many games were won last year due to in game situational coaching. For as much as these kids practice the coaching they are getting is instrumental in their development. Dukes are no different, yes they had studs all over the field but they were also very well coached. They played a lot together last year with the same coaches. Dukes also lost games last year and this fall.(because they were out coached).
It is very clear the teams over the past years that have not progressed and it is due directly to coaching. Kids can only hit the wall so many times and work on their individual game. This is a team sport. Every team is beatable , every team this year is bigger, stronger, faster and have holdbacks. The difference will be the Coaching!


A couple practices and 2 tournaments 3 months apart is not "a lot". Coaching had little to do with it.



Are you referring to 1 single game? The last game of the year for a team that won 98% of their games from fall ball- winter indoor-undefeated spring league and 1 loss in the final game of a hot 2 day slug fest to a team that was completely fresh for that tournament and that particular day-- 1 game clearly doesn't mean as much as an entire year. Coaching had a lot to do with that teams success. As proven the next time the same 2 teams met this fall. How did those few studs fair against a well coached fresh team with a ton of good talent-
To say coaching has little to do with a teams overall success clearly states you have no idea about this game. Sure , like every sport if you put an all star team together they will most likely but clearly not always when against most teams.


Get over yourself. Dukes was missing half their team that Sunday because of another tournament in Philly. And Hawks won on a last second goal. Those teams aren’t close at full strength. Fresh or not.

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#254540 - 01/12/18 09:08 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The best teams are "the best" for two reasons:
1) They recruit from other teams making their team better and the other team worse
2) They get holdbacks - best way to be bigger, stronger, faster.

Coaching is of little importance at this age.

As the Dukes proved, just pull together some great kids and with no practices and they can beat the best regular season team easily.


Couldn't disagree more. Coaching has been huge the past few years and will continue to be this year. Many games were won last year due to in game situational coaching. For as much as these kids practice the coaching they are getting is instrumental in their development. Dukes are no different, yes they had studs all over the field but they were also very well coached. They played a lot together last year with the same coaches. Dukes also lost games last year and this fall.(because they were out coached).
It is very clear the teams over the past years that have not progressed and it is due directly to coaching. Kids can only hit the wall so many times and work on their individual game. This is a team sport. Every team is beatable , every team this year is bigger, stronger, faster and have holdbacks. The difference will be the Coaching!


A couple practices and 2 tournaments 3 months apart is not "a lot". Coaching had little to do with it.



Are you referring to 1 single game? The last game of the year for a team that won 98% of their games from fall ball- winter indoor-undefeated spring league and 1 loss in the final game of a hot 2 day slug fest to a team that was completely fresh for that tournament and that particular day-- 1 game clearly doesn't mean as much as an entire year. Coaching had a lot to do with that teams success. As proven the next time the same 2 teams met this fall. How did those few studs fair against a well coached fresh team with a ton of good talent-
To say coaching has little to do with a teams overall success clearly states you have no idea about this game. Sure , like every sport if you put an all star team together they will most likely but clearly not always when against most teams.


Get over yourself. Dukes was missing half their team that Sunday because of another tournament in Philly. And Hawks won on a last second goal. Those teams aren’t close at full strength. Fresh or not.


Get over myself? Really? Im not the one bragging about an ALL STAR team beating a team 1 time and stating coaching has nothing to do with success at this age group. Dukes is always missing half their team which is the excuse for every loss.If they had their entire team they would have 50 boys on the sideline. What half is that? The ALL Star players from LI or PA? Here is a good question for ya. How did your boys regular team fair last year? Here is another one for ya, if any Hawk player wanted to play for the Dukes than your kid would not have a spot - Your kid would never get the call to play in a local tournaments but they would your take your money.
Dukes is a very good ALL Star team and nothing more . Very fun to watch as it should be with all the talent they have.
Have a great weekend! Cheers

#254555 - 01/13/18 10:54 AM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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FCA Blue is playing in California this weekend? How nice of all the white team players to fund these trips.

#254579 - 01/13/18 07:40 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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FCA Blue is playing in California this weekend? How nice of all the white team players to fund these trips.


That's racist! The white players don't pay for everything.

#254580 - 01/13/18 07:43 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The best teams are "the best" for two reasons:
1) They recruit from other teams making their team better and the other team worse
2) They get holdbacks - best way to be bigger, stronger, faster.

Coaching is of little importance at this age.

As the Dukes proved, just pull together some great kids and with no practices and they can beat the best regular season team easily.


Couldn't disagree more. Coaching has been huge the past few years and will continue to be this year. Many games were won last year due to in game situational coaching. For as much as these kids practice the coaching they are getting is instrumental in their development. Dukes are no different, yes they had studs all over the field but they were also very well coached. They played a lot together last year with the same coaches. Dukes also lost games last year and this fall.(because they were out coached).
It is very clear the teams over the past years that have not progressed and it is due directly to coaching. Kids can only hit the wall so many times and work on their individual game. This is a team sport. Every team is beatable , every team this year is bigger, stronger, faster and have holdbacks. The difference will be the Coaching!


A couple practices and 2 tournaments 3 months apart is not "a lot". Coaching had little to do with it.



Are you referring to 1 single game? The last game of the year for a team that won 98% of their games from fall ball- winter indoor-undefeated spring league and 1 loss in the final game of a hot 2 day slug fest to a team that was completely fresh for that tournament and that particular day-- 1 game clearly doesn't mean as much as an entire year. Coaching had a lot to do with that teams success. As proven the next time the same 2 teams met this fall. How did those few studs fair against a well coached fresh team with a ton of good talent-
To say coaching has little to do with a teams overall success clearly states you have no idea about this game. Sure , like every sport if you put an all star team together they will most likely but clearly not always when against most teams.


Get over yourself. Dukes was missing half their team that Sunday because of another tournament in Philly. And Hawks won on a last second goal. Those teams aren’t close at full strength. Fresh or not.


Get over myself? Really? Im not the one bragging about an ALL STAR team beating a team 1 time and stating coaching has nothing to do with success at this age group. Dukes is always missing half their team which is the excuse for every loss.If they had their entire team they would have 50 boys on the sideline. What half is that? The ALL Star players from LI or PA? Here is a good question for ya. How did your boys regular team fair last year? Here is another one for ya, if any Hawk player wanted to play for the Dukes than your kid would not have a spot - Your kid would never get the call to play in a local tournaments but they would your take your money.
Dukes is a very good ALL Star team and nothing more . Very fun to watch as it should be with all the talent they have.
Have a great weekend! Cheers


And what's your excuse for losing the next week? Boys still tired?

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#254598 - 01/14/18 01:31 AM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Clearly missing the point entirely which is par for the course on this site. No excuses just facts -losing games doesn't mean a thing unless your an ALL STAR team! Thanks for the entertainment and the laughs. Look forward to your lame response .

#254608 - 01/14/18 10:39 AM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Pick any 6 teams from the elite division and take the top 3 or 4 kids and that team beats the Dukes.

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Clearly missing the point entirely which is par for the course on this site. No excuses just facts -losing games doesn't mean a thing unless your an ALL STAR team! Thanks for the entertainment and the laughs. Look forward to your lame response .


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#254613 - 01/14/18 03:56 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Pick any 6 teams from the elite division and take the top 3 or 4 kids and that team beats the Dukes.

Not even close if dukes has its best kids

#254627 - 01/14/18 07:38 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Pick any 6 teams from the elite division and take the top 3 or 4 kids and that team beats the Dukes.

Not even close if dukes has its best kids


Got that right!

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#254629 - 01/14/18 09:35 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Dukes would get smoked.

HOCo elite all stars better than Dukes all stars

#254631 - 01/14/18 10:45 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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There are some good teams at the Madlax Capital Box tournament ..

#254634 - 01/14/18 11:52 PM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Dukes would get smoked.

HOCo elite all stars better than Dukes all stars


Depends on the week. Dukes lineup is never the same.

#254635 - 01/15/18 01:24 AM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: TM@BOTC]  

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Does anyone know what clubs will play in the HOCO Elite division this spring?

Will any teams move up from the AA level?
Will any of the teams move down from the elite division?

#254638 - 01/15/18 07:44 AM Re: Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Does anyone know what clubs will play in the HOCO Elite division this spring?

Will any teams move up from the AA level?
Will any of the teams move down from the elite division?

The competition committee has not met yet to determine this.

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