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Tim Muller(Cham) Danny Dolan(GC)

It really bothers me how Garden City hasnt had the balls to play Chaminade, even though they play similar schedules. They just dont want to lose all of their GC talent to CHaminade once the kids see Garden City get their asses handed to them. It really shows how much gc wants to keep their "recruits".

Muller and Rotanz stand out players, the rest...not so much. So can we agree that both public and private LI helped get the job done?

Hey, how was that last lacrosse game for you? My senior will be playing for a county championship this week and then preparing to enter a top 20 school. So proud of him and our awesome public school program.

Its Grad not grades. According to inside lacrosse there were 12 Chaminade Alumni competing in the 2017 NCAA tournament with 4 of them Team Captains.

Hey, how was that last lacrosse game for you? My senior will be playing for a county championship this week and then preparing to enter a top 20 school. So proud of him and our awesome public school program.

Those "captains " didn't get their job done...typical Cham issue

Are you really trying to compare one of the best schools on the island to one of the worst. You cant be serious.

I will say, just like Chaminade or any other Catholic school, the BSHS did not make those students they way they are. The district at one time had very strong direction and great primary school, leadership right now is suspect and unproven; Maybe too much government rules and regulations, maybe not. You bring up the Dual language program, Bay Shore primary schools did a great job years ago identifying the accelerated students and their families at an early age (2nd grade - Not the HS, HS just benefited). You stood in line to get your child a seat in the UPK program. It wasn’t a babysitting service and an effort had to be made by the families. The service wasnt available for all, it was a lottery, treated as a select program. If your child was lucky enough to get a seat they would always have a leg up. I remember they said they would always track the UPK students’ progress; i have yet to see one - guess that fell to the wayside. The students who you are identifying as the top 25 were identified well before HS. Many (not all) of them graduating now and in the past few years were the product of a "Mr Fallon" and the old board which pioneered many things for their children. Not sure you will see the likes of those again (at least another 4 years).

As far as AP, St John’s and St. Anthony’s offer those same students you mentioned as the top, the opportunities to take AP exams, would be interesting to see how the students marks match up to their neighborhood brethren.

Did any of you ever read that there is a 60/40 minority split, yes 60% minorities, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that the main language (spoken in home) at the school is not English and the %'s project to get worse over time. Yes, worse; are you kidding me. I still dont believe that one (BOE page, auditors information). The school also wants to get rid of those programs that made our children flourish, those accelerated programs. Because like in sports everyone gets a participation trophy and how dare someone try to better themselves or their children. and I didnt even get to the gangs, violence, arrests and drugs. You will say every school has them right, ill agree to a point. but you ask any defector they will say you lose the kids and families because of the Middle school culture. 8th grade graduation is a real eye opener for some. Try getting a grip on that. Although the high school is different, I can fully understand those not willing to gamble with their children's future.

Sports/activities, its simple. If you are a female great, a runner even better, if you are in music or drama it is an amazing school. Bring back the marching band! However, if you are male and play competitive sports please research your options. Is the core of the boaster club a figure-head chair who thinks they are the AD, worse thing that happen to district. Sorry, not the worst that would be the non existent AD. All in all a recipe for disaster. As far as lax, it is a, could have | should have | would have. This should have been the best year BS had in a decades. and not just Basketball. The talent had been there since youth. Bay Shore has always had some good youth programs look at its pool of talent. Never want to see anyone lose their job but it is time, its time for the Athletic Director and his side kick chair to go.


That said, some families have better resources regardless, but wherever you go, you get out whatever you put in.

I think you're on the wrong thread, there is a boys high school lax page to post on. This one is actually dedicated to a specific HS you just can't stop thinking about.

Since it's a Lax thread and your boy is done, thought you might want to follow the exciting upcoming games. But I'm sure you have some hot dogs that need grilling.

Regarding GC/Cham -- here are a couple of theories on why they don't play that I have heard of and I am sure there are more - one is that an argument developed when a Cham coaches son did not get much playing time at GC many moons ago and another was that Cham lax camp was sending articles into the local GC newspaper which some felt was a form of recruiting - GC coaches do not hesitate in saying they want to keep all GC players at GCHS with their friends in a top academic school with excellent lacrosse. Some families feel strongly about a Catholic education and all the benefits that Cham provides. Either choice is fine if it is right for your son. I would love for the schools to start playing again but it will not happen with the current coaches in place. It is a missed opportunity to raise a lot of $ for a worthy charity.

why don't they scrimmage each year?GC scrimmages St.Ants frequently... it would provide an opportunity for kids who chose to attend Chammy to play against hometown kids even if they will not be playing during regular season in many cases. everyone usually gets to play in scrimmage setting since they usually play more than 4 quarters.

Scrimmages don't count, ever. They are not a barometer of a teams success. They are used to evaluate players and schemes. The only people who view a scrimmage as a real test are those who have no knowledge of organized sports. I played in tons of scrimmages in multiple both football and lacrosse, not one meant anything. Kind of like a pre season football game in the NFL.

You keep telling yourself that.

I hope in the next 2 to 3 years GC WM SW Cham SA Manhasset and Pequa all play each other whether scrimmage or not

I think that the players play just as hard in scrimmage or game. coaches coach just as hard in either as well.

In response to never played. i don't know about original poster , but I did in fact play football, hoops and lax at top school in N.C.

The habits we were taught were to practice as if in a game. to play hard all the time not just while daddy and mommy are watching at game acting like a know it all.

Point t is that scrimmages are important, fun and developmental. in any sport. you think schoolyard basketball isn't competitive? football workouts/scrimmages in beginning of season? how about club lacrosse, it doesn't really matter the score does it? its about improving. so please calm down about keeping score in scrimmages. the post was suggesting a way to get two great programs on the field no one predicted who would "win".
If you cant understand that its sad.

In response to never played. i don't know about original poster , but I did in fact play football, hoops and lax at top school in N.C.

The habits we were taught were to practice as if in a game. to play hard all the time not just while daddy and mommy are watching at game acting like a know it all.

Point t is that scrimmages are important, fun and developmental. in any sport. you think schoolyard basketball isn't competitive? football workouts/scrimmages in beginning of season? how about club lacrosse, it doesn't really matter the score does it? its about improving. so please calm down about keeping score in scrimmages. the post was suggesting a way to get two great programs on the field no one predicted who would "win".
If you cant understand that its sad.

maybe N.C. is Nassau county? that would be Chaminade or Garden City.

Did you read how this fellow writes? No way he went to one of those fine academic institutions. Hence the North Carolina reference.

How does Chaminade freshman class look? I hear that this batch is best ever. Maybe this is the year they give the freshman and sophomores a chance. especially on defense. its about time.

How does Chaminade freshman class look? I hear that this batch is best ever. Maybe this is the year they give the freshman and sophomores a chance. especially on defense. its about time.

Ask us next year after they re-class.