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TG has 17 teams. How is SS or BS going to see every game in a tournament weekend? I don't know any director who can physically do that, especially when older girls play at different locations than younger. It's easy for Legacy to do that because they only have one-third the number of girls. If Legacy grows, they too will be thin at coaching and attention to every team. People have been saying this nonsense for years and TG remains competitive. As girls lacrosse grows, the number of new organizations will continue to pop up and take new girls from all programs. That's good for the game, but I hope it doesn't water down the end product at tournaments. Not too many competitive games until you get to the playoff brackets as it is. Same can be said about some startup Maryland teams this summer . . . some very good but some really bad.

It's amusing how parents come on here and post negative comments about a club and they are immediately called a "troll" from another club. There are MANY parents who are still part of the club and are not happy at all with the way the club is going. It's easy to say just go somewhere else if you are not happy but that isn't always the case. There are a lot of extenuating circumstances keeping girls in programs that they aren't happy with. This applies to all clubs, not just the one that's getting crushed right now.

I think the point was how can you justify moving up the girls that they moved up and say it was based on game/season performance when not one of them were at any games to see the girls actually perform. Whose word did they take? The college girls coaches that were always on their phones texting during the same games? And that's with all age groups not just 2020. I know for a fact a few other purple girls that should have been moved up without a doubt and were overlooked. But with no one to oversea the teams and games it's like they just plucked names out of a hat and said now you are on the A team. The teams played 20 games this past season and there are 3 Smiths. It they really cared they would have at least popped into Some of the other teams games , not just the black team. So don't be surprised now that almost the whole purple team is gone. Shouldn't matter now that they're missing quite a few dollars, they never really mattered anyway.

That's true, were still on TG and are weighing our options also. As we're just not pleased with the club any longer, and that doesn't mean we're trolling it means sharing our opinions and thoughts with others to see if we are the only ones feeling this way.

It's amusing how parents come on here and post negative comments about a club and they are immediately called a "troll" from another club. There are MANY parents who are still part of the club and are not happy at all with the way the club is going. It's easy to say just go somewhere else if you are not happy but that isn't always the case. There are a lot of extenuating circumstances keeping girls in programs that they aren't happy with. This applies to all clubs, not just the one that's getting crushed right now. [/quote]

Because many people came on here last year too and said TG girls were leaving in droves and going to Elevate. Elevate did not do a lot this past summer with all of the "new" girls they had coming in. It's been the same bashing of TG for years, and no different now. Someone here asked, "What is so great about the other programs that is better than TG?." Still waiting for an answer of the program, coaching staff, and tournament playoff bracket appearances to answer that question.

Anyone have an opinion about ICON Lax?..on the girls side?...any info appreciated! thxs

Not at all, all these clubs are good for lacrosse and it is good for the consumer to have choices. But all this A, B clubs teams talk on this thread looks like it maybe club wars looking to soak up disgruntled players. Putting it into context with all these clubs claiming supremacy as the new A team best option. Honestly can Elevate, Legacy or TG's go down to a well represented tournament with all the MD teams and go toe to toe across the board at every age group? Not even remotely close. TG's never could either even at their peak. YJ was never mentioned yet you assumed it, and with good reason. But it is only the blue teams that play at that level, the rest of the yj teams ( and that's most of their teams) are in the same category Every club has its problems, even YJ. In the end you have to find the right place and team for your daughter on many levels, friends, development, competitiveness etc.... Again, just because a few people are on a thread associating their club as an "A" level option doesn't mean it is remotely close to reality. People read a few opinions on the internet a few times and start to believe it.

Icon 2020 is not that good

Not at all, all these clubs are good for lacrosse and it is good for the consumer to have choices. But all this A, B clubs teams talk on this thread looks like it maybe club wars looking to soak up disgruntled players. Putting it into context with all these clubs claiming supremacy as the new A team best option. Honestly can Elevate, Legacy or TG's go down to a well represented tournament with all the MD teams and go toe to toe across the board at every age group? Not even remotely close. TG's never could either even at their peak. YJ was never mentioned yet you assumed it, and with good reason. But it is only the blue teams that play at that level, the rest of the yj teams ( and that's most of their teams) are in the same category Every club has its problems, even YJ. In the end you have to find the right place and team for your daughter on many levels, friends, development, competitiveness etc.... Again, just because a few people are on a thread associating their club as an "A" level option doesn't mean it is remotely close to reality. People read a few opinions on the internet a few times and start to believe it. [/quote]

Perfectly said! The key word you said is "friends." Made so many this year. I hope none of these people end up on my daughter's team. Are they watching their daughters play, or are they taking notes to see where they are going to tryout next year?

Icon is a boys' program much like Express. Teams are okay.

ICON sent out notice regarding boys & GIRLS tryouts....I think they have had teams for few years now...

Ok ty for the feedback...

Icon AND Express are boys' programs first, girls second. Legacy is boys first as well, but their girls teams fared better.

thxs much..i know a few like fl$ are boy centric and throw on girls to prob pay the director hotel bills...was wondering if that applies to ICON as well...focus may/may not be there

The only people that seemed to be concerned with this meaningless A team vs B team crap are obviously YJ parents. Everyone else is too mature to bother with that trivial childish baloney. YJ patents are the worst.

My daughter does not play for Icon, but they have two great coaches who both played college lacrosse and are girls varsity assistant coaches. Icon is better than fl$. They are on the same level as 91 girls (which is yet another boys' program that has girls too).

I can tell you from direct experience- Express is absolutely not about the girls program. Girls are treated as 2nd rate for sure.

thanks to all for the valuable input!...nice to hear good, honest opinions instead of outright bashing..

[quote=Anonymous]This is a girl that doesn't want to be on the best team, which would raise her level of play, she doesn't want the competition. Competition is what gives the teams their edge. You have to earn your spot on one of the top teams. [/quote

unless youre a cop or fireman friend

wth?.... what are saying and to who/what is it directed?..cant make heads/tails out of what you are babbling about..

Everyone signing up for the fall tournaments? Is it held against us if we don't?

What club are you talking about? Many clubs have fall tournaments please be more specific

no

No, you're not signing up? Or, No, its not held against us?

no and no

F=that- I AM holding it against anyone that doesn't sign up, and NO I am not signing myself up.

looks like Liberty, Legacy and Elevate will be beneficiaries of the exodus from TG...Liberty and Legacy will get stronger and more competitive...Elevate in the mix too...

Beneficiaries yes. Make them stronger, that's questionable.

How are B and C team players leaving TG going to make anyone better? If they left TG, they will probably try to make someone else's B and C teams the next year when they leave your daughter's team. Have fun making friends with these people next summer. When they go to Elevate, and realize DK charges you double for everything, they will not stay. How come Elevate doesn't post the team fee?

Ask yourself if your getting the training and guidance from your club. Including recruiting and personal development.
Some clubs offer plenty and some use big names to lure you into thinking you'll get Top Grade training just to get the minimum. If your going to pay you may as well get your money's worth.

Your a moron.

[quote=Anonymous]How are B and C team players leaving TG going to make anyone better? If they left TG, they will probably try to make someone else's B and C teams the next year when they leave your daughter's team. Have fun making friends with these people next summer. When they go to Elevate, and realize DK charges you double for everything, they will not stay. How come Elevate doesn't post the team fee?

A couple of those players that left TG have already made A teams elsewhere. Showing they were dropped from black to make room for f&f not because they weren't good players. We'll see how well TG will fare with the new and improved team.

Like YJ's don't double and triple charge. Winter clinics $50 per hour to run shuttles give me a break

At least YJ is a top team. Elevate is not in the same ballpark but charge like they are.

Your a moron. [/quote]

You're a moron!

What does YJ charge for their recruiting services?

LOL... isn't it like 500 or more now. Criminal

If you're paying for recruiting services for an 8th grader then you're nuts. No one is looking at 8th graders no matter how good they are.

and if they are getting looks, then there's no reason to pay anyone

I am not a fan of the early recruiting, but you are wrong. The last several years has seen the first wave of commits of the elite as eigth graders. That is 2020 for next summer. You will see the 2019s start right now based on this past summers play, jast as we saw the 2018 last fall.

Early verbals is sheer lunacy that is pushed by these for profit travel clubs because it's good for their business and posting on their websites and twitter. Keep pushing and driving your kids all over gods creation for that $7,500 offer and sign where your director tells you to.

I don't get how everyone kisses these programs asses while paying in $4 or $5 thousand a year. It's like a cult.