It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Tryouts are over already, kids accepted and the team is picked.
Sunday scrimmage. August 6th. Isn't there a break. More to life than this, I think.
Sunday scrimmage. August 6th. Isn't there a break. More to life than this, I think.
There should be a break! August is the boys time off. 12 months straight of any sport will lead to burnout and injuries.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Sunday scrimmage. August 6th. Isn't there a break. More to life than this, I think.
There should be a break! August is the boys time off. 12 months straight of any sport will lead to burnout and injuries.
So true!! Agree 100%
That's ridiculous! The boys need time off and families need down time. Hate to say it people but there's more to life than lacrosse. Burnout is on its way.
That's ridiculous! The boys need time off and families need down time. Hate to say it people but there's more to life than lacrosse. Burnout is on its way.
Does this burnout mean Express will be beatable this coming fall?
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Pathetic - get a life
So does this mean that team is already picked?
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Will they have the Koopers 2021 ringers? If not, Express should win fairly easily.
That's ridiculous! The boys need time off and families need down time. Hate to say it people but there's more to life than lacrosse. Burnout is on its way.
Does this burnout mean Express will be beatable this coming fall?
Unlikely - they have the deepest bench in history (daddy of kid #38).
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Will they have the Koopers 2021 ringers? If not, Express should win fairly easily.
The "Koopers 2021 ringers" are on age 2022 players that have played for Dukes since last spring. Not sure what you are implying.
They should all be at the beach. Sticks down. Enough is enough.
That's ridiculous! The boys need time off and families need down time. Hate to say it people but there's more to life than lacrosse. Burnout is on its way.
Does this burnout mean Express will be beatable this coming fall?
Unlikely - they have the deepest bench in history (daddy of kid #38).
38 is good. Your son will be right there for the hybrid team. That is the team that is for the the bottom half of the AA roster that returned and selected kids at tryouts. There was over 100 kids there last night to pick from. That team has a chance to be like Igloo's 2nd team.
Outlaws have 1st Tryout today from 5-7
Walt Whitman High School
88 Kids signed up as of now
Registration is still open
Thanks
Outlaw organization is made up of yellers and crazy parents that yell...its some scene from the sidelines
Outlaws have 1st Tryout today from 5-7
Walt Whitman High School
88 Kids signed up as of now
Registration is still open
Thanks
Thank you. Select and Gold again. And are the coaching staffs the same.
They should all be at the beach. Sticks down. Enough is enough.
Well considering the clubs are having tryouts already, what is the issue in playing a scrimmage as well?
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Will they have the Koopers 2021 ringers? If not, Express should win fairly easily.
The "Koopers 2021 ringers" are on age 2022 players that have played for Dukes since last spring. Not sure what you are implying.
So they will definitely be there because they have to be there for tryouts anyway or they don't make the team.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Will they have the Koopers 2021 ringers? If not, Express should win fairly easily.
The "Koopers 2021 ringers" are on age 2022 players that have played for Dukes since last spring. Not sure what you are implying.
So they will definitely be there because they have to be there for tryouts anyway or they don't make the team.
You obviously have no idea how Dukes works and are making yourself look silly. Dukes is not a team, it is a program. There are more kids on the roster than those that play in games and tournaments. The "tryouts' occur every month from August to May. Kids are free to come to the monthly tryout and be added to the team if they are good enough. It's not realistic for all the kids to make it each month. This doesn't mean you aren't on the team anymore. Many of the kids from last years roster have already been invited back, not just the koopers kids.
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
Outlaw organization is made up of yellers and crazy parents that yell...its some scene from the sidelines
Sounds like my team... not Outlaws exclusive
How many 2022 Outlaw teams this year?
How many 2022 Outlaw teams this year?
What did the flyer or their website say?
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Outlaws have 1st Tryout today from 5-7
Walt Whitman High School
88 Kids signed up as of now
Registration is still open
Thanks
Thank you. Select and Gold again. And are the coaching staffs the same.
Select=B
Gold=nonexistent, or if they do exist D team
Yes the coaching is the same, someone's dad and PB shows up to scream at the kids as they get smoked. If you are looking for the worst set of parents and a solid B team with mediocre coaching, then you are in the right spot
Ah! Tisk tisk tisk, another fat dad leaning on his kids stick who didn't make the cut! Try the Ducks they are more up your alley!
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
Which Dukes?
Dukes Nationals 2022
Will they have the Koopers 2021 ringers? If not, Express should win fairly easily.
The "Koopers 2021 ringers" are on age 2022 players that have played for Dukes since last spring. Not sure what you are implying.
So they will definitely be there because they have to be there for tryouts anyway or they don't make the team.
You obviously have no idea how Dukes works and are making yourself look silly. Dukes is not a team, it is a program. There are more kids on the roster than those that play in games and tournaments. The "tryouts' occur every month from August to May. Kids are free to come to the monthly tryout and be added to the team if they are good enough. It's not realistic for all the kids to make it each month. This doesn't mean you aren't on the team anymore. Many of the kids from last years roster have already been invited back, not just the koopers kids.
But every "tryout" you miss moves you farther down the depth chart - right?
Outlaws have 1st Tryout today from 5-7
Walt Whitman High School
88 Kids signed up as of now
Registration is still open
Thanks
Thank you. Select and Gold again. And are the coaching staffs the same.
Select=B
Gold=nonexistent, or if they do exist D team
Yes the coaching is the same, someone's dad and PB shows up to scream at the kids as they get smoked. If you are looking for the worst set of parents and a solid B team with mediocre coaching, then you are in the right spot
Once again Nice Try!
Let's tally the daddy coaches nonsense so it can all stop.
Express A 2 daddy coaches
Igloo A 2 daddy coaches
Igloo B 1 daddy coach
91 2 daddy coaches
Outlaws 1 daddy coach
Lagacy 1 daddy coach
91 B 1 daddy coach
People anywhere you go on long Island there are daddy coaches get over it
Let's tally the daddy coaches nonsense so it can all stop.
Express A 2 daddy coaches
Igloo A 2 daddy coaches
Igloo B 1 daddy coach
91 2 daddy coaches
Outlaws 1 daddy coach
Lagacy 1 daddy coach
91 B 1 daddy coach
People anywhere you go on long Island there are daddy coaches get over it
Dad's coaching as an assistant is fine. And very needed. So your tally data is skewed, The issue is sometimes when the Head Coach is the daddy coach. Then that could be a potential red flag. Obviously, there are cases like the Bandits and Badgers where you gladly accept those dads. But this is club lax, where we are all spending a ton of money and time. Every team should have a Head Coach that has no ties to the team. However, sometimes those coaches do just the minimum. Whereas a daddy Head Coach will invest the time to practice, so this whole thing is maddening and every team and club is different. So practice and commitment is key, along with keeping an eye that dad doesn't favor his son.
Head Coach (and most are club directors)
Express A and B - nope (director for A)
Igloo A and B - nope (director for A)
9! A and B - nope (director for A)
Outlaws A (director)
Legeeacy A and B - nope (director for A)
Not a bad coaching line up
How was the Outlaws tryouts last night?
Prices are getting ridiculous with these club teams , money grab
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
My son only played in 2 tournaments this summer also with them. There were only 3 that Dukes played in. There aren't any minicamps after April. Buy the helmets? What are you talking about? No one buys their own helmet.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
So they will definitely be there because they have to be there for tryouts anyway or they don't make the team.
You obviously have no idea how Dukes works and are making yourself look silly. Dukes is not a team, it is a program. There are more kids on the roster than those that play in games and tournaments. The "tryouts' occur every month from August to May. Kids are free to come to the monthly tryout and be added to the team if they are good enough. It's not realistic for all the kids to make it each month. This doesn't mean you aren't on the team anymore. Many of the kids from last years roster have already been invited back, not just the koopers kids.
But every "tryout" you miss moves you farther down the depth chart - right?
Getting moved down the depth chart and getting moved below the travel line are two different things. Obviously showing up at a tryout helps, but they aren't going to move their best kids below the travel line. That would be silly.
Prices are getting ridiculous with these club teams , money grab
Give the Vipers a try then, best bang for your buck.
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
2 is actually the actual definition of multiple.
multiple = more than 1
Best bang for your buck laughable! Will never get into the good recruiting tournaments. They know nobody and will just be a c level travel organization and that's it.
Hate to break it to everyone...Your kid isn't getting a scholarship. My kid isn't getting a scholarship. 13% of HS players will go on to play college lax, at any level. Less than three percent will play "D-1." Let the kids play because they love the sport. Let them play other things. Invest the money you'd spend on one of these high priced clubs into SAT Prep. Get your kid on the wall, show him to squat, deadlift, and power clean, make him run, if you want him better at lacrosse.
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
2 is actually the actual definition of multiple.
multiple = more than 1
Multiple is 2 to infinity. 2 is barely multiple.
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
My son only played in 2 tournaments this summer also with them. There were only 3 that Dukes played in. There aren't any minicamps after April. Buy the helmets? What are you talking about? No one buys their own helmet.
So the 70% of the Nationals team with Dukes helmets are also on Dukes young Guns? Doubtful.
LI Express vs Dukes on Sunday morning. Should be a fun scrimmage.
So they will definitely be there because they have to be there for tryouts anyway or they don't make the team.
You obviously have no idea how Dukes works and are making yourself look silly. Dukes is not a team, it is a program. There are more kids on the roster than those that play in games and tournaments. The "tryouts' occur every month from August to May. Kids are free to come to the monthly tryout and be added to the team if they are good enough. It's not realistic for all the kids to make it each month. This doesn't mean you aren't on the team anymore. Many of the kids from last years roster have already been invited back, not just the koopers kids.
But every "tryout" you miss moves you farther down the depth chart - right?
Getting moved down the depth chart and getting moved below the travel line are two different things. Obviously showing up at a tryout helps, but they aren't going to move their best kids below the travel line. That would be silly.
Especially when keeping up the perception that the more clinics you do with Dukes improves your chances of moving above the travel line.
I doubt Petros kids will be there and who cares if they are, express beat them at the NCAA futures tourney. And dukes had all the ringers
They'll be there. Again. Not sure how on age 2022 kids that have played for the team multiple times are ringers.
Two tourneys is barely multiple times.
Non-ringers have to buy the helmets.
My son only played in 2 tournaments this summer also with them. There were only 3 that Dukes played in. There aren't any minicamps after April. Buy the helmets? What are you talking about? No one buys their own helmet.
So the 70% of the Nationals team with Dukes helmets are also on Dukes young Guns? Doubtful.
Again, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about in terms of how the program works. Either that or your son was gradually moved off the depth chart as better kids started to come out and you are salty about it. It's a national all star team that constantly looks for new players. That's what was explained to people when they sign up for the very small fee to join the depth chart which includes your helmet, uniforms, etc.
My son doesn't wear his Dukes helmet all the time because of two things. First is it's a Warrior Evo helmet which most kids don't like. The second is that it's black and the kids call them lava buckets because they get so hot in the summer.
Not sure why the hate on this team. Obviously they are very good as was shown in their game against the Hawks. What everyone isn't realizing is that teams like this are the next evolution in youth lacrosse. Club lacrosse started as a way for kids to play with other talented kids. Now everyone plays club so there is going to be another delineation created to separate the top players.
Good numbers for the Express tryouts. However, it looks like the AA spots are safe.
You are crazy if you think National teams are the wave of the future. The whole Dukes National program is laughable. Ask yourself, why isn't there a Dukes National HS team? When the answer smacks you in the face, you will realize you could have spent a lot more time with your son away from the lacrosse field.
More clinics=more learning=potentially better play=greater chance of being above travel line. Actual performance is up to your kud.
Dukes is a joke. Doesn't practice, counts on taking well trained players from quality clubs and pretends that they are doing something special. The only thing they do well is sign up the right kids and convince them to skip their club teams games a few times a year.
Can somebody give some feedback on some teams. Practice, coaching commitment, coaching ability. Please share real experience both pros and cons. I think the norm is a team that plays 2- 3 fall tourneys, trains and practices all winter. Spring off for school ball. 4 -6 summer tourneys. And practice 2 times a week once school ball ends. And does the coach answer emails and really wants the team to succeed over it being a side gig coaching.
9! Campbell
Empire Black & White
Ducks Purple & Black
Legaaacy B
More clinics=more learning=potentially better play=greater chance of being above travel line. Actual performance is up to your kud.
What's a Kud?
Dukes. Where we throw together teams of great players from other clubs and try to win tournaments with no practices lol joke.
It's great that your son has the ability, and you have the means to provide him with the experience of one of these top tier clubs, so you can disparage other clubs out there. You should be very proud of him and yourself. To that end, Viper, a non profit organization, which has donated its proceeds to countless charities, and keeps its cost reasonable for its players, probably isn't for you.
When did they say they would start at the tryouts?
Check ur email, Express rosters were emailed.
At least some teams were.
Best of luck
2022 Xpress Schwalje....i guess there are some coaching changes...anybody have any idea on this?????
2022 Xpress Schwalje....i guess there are some coaching changes...anybody have any idea on this?????
That team will be very solid. Kids will lotsa training and some of the best coaching. Can't ask for anything more.
2022 Scwalje. Is it AA AA hybrid or B
2022 Scwalje. Is it AA AA hybrid or B
It's an A team.
Trying to figure this one out as well. Seems like they are trying for four teams: Channy X 2, Schwalje & O'Reilly. Anyone have any insight on the pecking order here?
Trying to figure this one out as well. Seems like they are trying for four teams: Channy X 2, Schwalje & O'Reilly. Anyone have any insight on the pecking order here?
Schwalje is a newly created A team is all I know.
I think you have the pecking order correct in your post....c4
Channy's teams would be 2022 Channy (denver team), 2022 Chuck
(So called hybrid team)
Trying to figure this one out as well. Seems like they are trying for four teams: Channy X 2, Schwalje & O'Reilly. Anyone have any insight on the pecking order here?
There are 4 teams. Channy and Schwalje are A teams. Channy Jr. And O'Reilly are the B teams
Trying to figure this one out as well. Seems like they are trying for four teams: Channy X 2, Schwalje & O'Reilly. Anyone have any insight on the pecking order here?
There are 4 teams. Channy and Schwalje are A teams. Channy Jr. And O'Reilly are the B teams
That is correct. That is an impressive and most experienced coaching rosters around.
AA -Channy
A - Schwalje
B+ - Chuck
B - Oreilly
Keep guessing, they're both B teams.
Why would Channy coach a C team the order has to be going as followed
A) channy
B1) chuck
B2) Schwalje
C) O'rielly
No Channy Jr team.....
I think they are keeping it a bit murky for the reason of player retention.
Would be nice if it was crystal clear.
Channy AA
Chuck AA (not really)
Schwalje A (not really)
ORielly B+ (not really)
A Birdie said that they opted to even the talent between Chuck and Schwalje because they were talent heavy in some positions. Several players were good enough for Chuck but it would be better to have them on Schwalje. This will prevent lack of playing time, by far the biggest complaint.
Will their really be enough kids for 4 teams?
If you are playing the Dukes today, you are on the top Express. If not, you are paying for B lacrosse.
Its not channy its his younger son coaching
A Birdie said that they opted to even the talent between Chuck and Schwalje because they were talent heavy in some positions. Several players were good enough for Chuck but it would be better to have them on Schwalje. This will prevent lack of playing time, by far the biggest complaint.
Will their really be enough kids for 4 teams?
Lol... tell that birdie he is funny. We'll see with the results. But both teams should be very good.
Did dukes play top express team today
If you are playing the Dukes today, you are on the top Express. If not, you are paying for B lacrosse.
Good grief if that was too team. 12-3 dukes.
Excuses?
Express channy took a beating today. Dukes handled them pretty easy.
Straight from the man:
2022 Chuck coaches for the upcoming year will Mike Chanenchuk, John Lynott Sr. John Lynott Jr., Matt Chanenchuk and Joe Knoetgen.
Straight from the man:
2022 Chuck coaches for the upcoming year will Mike Chanenchuk, John Lynott Sr. John Lynott Jr., Matt Chanenchuk and Joe Knoetgen.
All Star Staff. Doesn't get any better and the kids should have a great uear. But based on which kids landed where it's still Channy, Schwalje, Chuck.
Which means big channy and big lynott will be gone by Christmas. Leaving it to little channy and little lynott. That's if big lynott ever Shows up.
Unfortunately no one will ever get the truth of the pecking order or which team is which other than team channy until its too late. Have fun paying 3k for more mediocre lacrosse!!!
[quote=Anonymous]Did dukes play top express team today[/quote
No it wasn't even a game. I lost count at like 20 goals!!
The order is Channy, Schwalje, and Chuck. And it's good thing, stop with the labeling and trying to make it a negative. These three teams have some of the best instruction around. The Chuck team will be better than the top teams at any 2nd tier club. That's not a knock, its just that showing a point that calling a team AA, A, B+, B or C makes difference, if the team is good, they are good.
Forget this stuff....how about the big MC team getting spanked today! Shocking.
[quote=Anonymous]Did dukes play top express team today[/quote
No it wasn't even a game. I lost count at like 20 goals!!
What did you expect. Dukes came into this game fully loaded and in my opinion it was a PR game for them. Express beat them during year 6-5. So obviously it was not the two same teams.
OK Dad who can't sleep tonight because your son did not make the 2nd team despite what ever "letter" you want to assign the teams!
Just explain why Channy would put his name on a "c" team?
Answer: He would not.
Express could field 3 solid teams if they do it right.
For $3000+, they should deliver on thier word.
um... it was a scrimmage between two lacrosse teams...?? one team didn't play as well as the other... ?? dukes is a national team of really good kids from several states... ?? it was for fun... ??? LIE is still a great program for our kids and MC is a great coach ok? step away from the ledge... this is fun stuff called kids lacrosse... no go get a pizza and watch AGT...
OK Dad who can't sleep tonight because your son did not make the 2nd team despite what ever "letter" you want to assign the teams!
Just explain why Channy would put his name on a "c" team?
Answer: He would not.
Express could field 3 solid teams if they do it right.
For $3000+, they should deliver on thier word.
OK genius explain why there are actually 4 teams. O'Reilly has the 4th team. Do we still think they can field 4 teams, that is the question.
If you are playing the Dukes today, you are on the top Express. If not, you are paying for B lacrosse.
Good grief if that was too team. 12-3 dukes.
Excuses?
No excuses needed. Channy did not have his team there. He was playing kids that are hoping to become future Channy deciples!
Will never happen .kids will start dropping off and they will end up with 3 teams .
If you are playing the Dukes today, you are on the top Express. If not, you are paying for B lacrosse.
Good grief if that was too team. 12-3 dukes.
Excuses?
No excuses needed. Channy did not have his team there. He was playing kids that are hoping to become future Channy deciples!
Yeah ok.
Its august and express was missing 6 starters
Its august and express was missing 6 starters
Whatever you say. Dukes missing kids too.
I guess Express needed more than the 30 kids on the sideline
DISCIPLES!!!! SMH! Jesus please don't help johnny with his homework, he'll be a holdout by default with you as a role model!
Its august and express was missing 6 starters
Whatever you say. Dukes missing kids too.
I guess Express needed more than the 30 kids on the sideline
I can't wait until next year when we can have this conversation again. Oh wait, that is right, DN doesn't have a high school team, but there will always be 8th grade, right Dad!
Say what ever you want about Express, they are still the 2017 WSYL Champions, that title can never be taken away. They were ranked #4 or 5 and came out the champions.
LIE was missing some talent today although nothing close to the aforementioned 6 starters. I know Dukes Nationals 2022 were missing some of their best midfielders, a couple defenseman, and another top attackman for this exhibition game earlier Sunday. They were also a couple top players for the Futures tourney when they lost 6-5. Both teams are very solid but edge has to go to the Dukes Nationals because they never practice as a team. LIE practices together a lot and some have played together for years. Even when DN's get together for their monthly minicamps/evaluation/tryout, the team and players that are present is always different and can change month to month. To play at such a high level against teams like LIE, Annapolis Hawks, etc. is somewhat impressive. The secret sauce lies in the coaching, the system and the program. You can't take anything away from LIE as they are a top elite team. Igloo, PrimeTime, Hawks (and others) are all top tier. In my opinion and a the end of the day, advantage goes to Dukes Nationals and their organization. Well done.......
I heard express was missing their top 20 players....thank god they have a 40 man roster....lol. Keep believing the hype. Maybe someday your kid will finally get to wear that LIE uniform in a meaningful game.
But you're right, you are wsyl champions. Giggle, giggle. Then 2 weeks later you went to the real national championship and got waxed. Didn't get out of the 1st round of the playoffs. Guess you were missing your top 20 players there also.
Its august and express was missing 6 starters
Whatever you say. Dukes missing kids too.
I guess Express needed more than the 30 kids on the sideline
I can't wait until next year when we can have this conversation again. Oh wait, that is right, DN doesn't have a high school team, but there will always be 8th grade, right Dad!
You honestly think this team is going to fold after this year? The program just started a couple years ago. So we can have this conversation again next year after DN continues to bring in bettter players. Who knows, maybe even some LIE kids may give it a shot. If you can't beat them, join them.
OK Dad who can't sleep tonight because your son did not make the 2nd team despite what ever "letter" you want to assign the teams!
Just explain why Channy would put his name on a "c" team?
Answer: He would not.
Express could field 3 solid teams if they do it right.
For $3000+, they should deliver on thier word.
OK genius explain why there are actually 4 teams. O'Reilly has the 4th team. Do we still think they can field 4 teams, that is the question.
They can and will. They dedicated a coaching staff to each team.
Channy
Schwalje
Chuck
O'Reilly
9d1 tryouts coming up this week, any idea of how many teams they are looking to do? I hope not 4 like Express !
I heard express was missing their top 20 players....thank god they have a 40 man roster....lol. Keep believing the hype. Maybe someday your kid will finally get to wear that LIE uniform in a meaningful game.
But you're right, you are wsyl champions. Giggle, giggle. Then 2 weeks later you went to the real national championship and got waxed. Didn't get out of the 1st round of the playoffs. Guess you were missing your top 20 players there also.
Bad comedy, fool. Lost by a goal in OT in quarters
LIE was missing some talent today although nothing close to the aforementioned 6 starters. I know Dukes Nationals 2022 were missing some of their best midfielders, a couple defenseman, and another top attackman for this exhibition game earlier Sunday. They were also a couple top players for the Futures tourney when they lost 6-5. Both teams are very solid but edge has to go to the Dukes Nationals because they never practice as a team. LIE practices together a lot and some have played together for years. Even when DN's get together for their monthly minicamps/evaluation/tryout, the team and players that are present is always different and can change month to month. To play at such a high level against teams like LIE, Annapolis Hawks, etc. is somewhat impressive. The secret sauce lies in the coaching, the system and the program. You can't take anything away from LIE as they are a top elite team. Igloo, PrimeTime, Hawks (and others) are all top tier. In my opinion and a the end of the day, advantage goes to Dukes Nationals and their organization. Well done.......
count them 2 attach 3 middies 1 fogo. good win for dukes. teams played 3 times this year. express won twice and dukes won once
9d1 tryouts coming up this week, any idea of how many teams they are looking to do? I hope not 4 like Express !
I doubt they do anything more than two teams. But that's my opinion and I know nothing of their plans. The difficulty is not getting the teams... it's people would rather be on a 2nd tier clubs A team than a 2nd or 3rd team of a top club. Before all these new clubs starting forming, Express, 9! and TLI all had a minimum of 3 teams per age. I think the amount of teams a club has per age is all based on the coaching and is the team that pays the same as the top team, getting the same attention. I know that is the case with Express.
So they didn't get out of the first round of the playoffs? Like I said. Igloo best team on LI. Soon to be taken over by 91 with the new addition. JS kid.
So they didn't get out of the first round of the playoffs? Like I said. Igloo best team on LI. Soon to be taken over by 91 with the new addition. JS kid.
Both are excellent teams. How many times did Igloo and Express play over the last two years and what were the results and scores of the games?
Its august and express was missing 6 starters
Whatever you say. Dukes missing kids too.
I guess Express needed more than the 30 kids on the sideline
I can't wait until next year when we can have this conversation again. Oh wait, that is right, DN doesn't have a high school team, but there will always be 8th grade, right Dad!
You honestly think this team is going to fold after this year? The program just started a couple years ago. So we can have this conversation again next year after DN continues to bring in bettter players. Who knows, maybe even some LIE kids may give it a shot. If you can't beat them, join them.
Your post shows you have no idea what you are talking about. If there is a DN 2022 team next year what tournaments are they gonna play in? Baltimore Summer Kickoff, Big 4 Summer, Crab Feast? Do you honestly think kids on Team 91, Crabs,Laxachussetts, FCA, LIE, Philly Freedom, Mesa, and the original Dukes team, etc....are gonna be allowed to go play for DN when they are all in the same tourney? If a kid is already on a top team, what is the incentive to play for DN. He is already going to play against the best competition and get seen by colleges at all the big showcase tourneys. And before you give me they can attend the monthly combine/tryout, those venues already exist for the HS player, they are called Jake Reed Blue chip, Maverick Showtime, and the Under Armour tryouts.
I will be glad to have this conversation again in a year
If you are playing the Dukes today, you are on the top Express. If not, you are paying for B lacrosse.
Good grief if that was too team. 12-3 dukes.
Excuses?
No excuses needed. Channy did not have his team there. He was playing kids that are hoping to become future Channy deciples!
Dukes are a joke
Dukes are no joke... the laughing and smiling you see on the sideline are the kids having fun. Plain and simple. Good kids playing lacrosse and while you are planning some fantastic-i-hope-they-love-me future, those kids are enjoying it now.
Dukes ok but not worth it for NY Players
Express 2022 has anybody figured out how many teams there will be...Channy Schwalje and OReilly?? why does channy Jr have a team..Does he have the time????
Was there anyone from igloo or 91 kids playing for Dukes this weekend
Dukes ok but not worth it for NY Players
ENOUGH Dukes talk ! Its a pro bowl team of all the best kids in the 2022 division. They should win a lot of games !!!
Dukes ok but not worth it for NY Players
ENOUGH Dukes talk ! Its a pro bowl team of all the best kids in the 2022 division. They should win a lot of games !!!
Really who cares. Believe me the owners are all the publicity you are giving them. Let's chat our little world here on the island. Big tryouts this week at Leggy and 9!. I think they'll be attendee's at each other's tryouts and both will probaby improve.
Express 2022 has anybody figured out how many teams there will be...Channy Schwalje and OReilly?? why does channy Jr have a team..Does he have the time????
Really, jist call. It your son got an invite from the Express, sounds like he did not. Channy puts his cell# on the bottom of the email. Say what you want, but he at least picks up his phone and will talk to you.
Was there anyone from igloo or 91 kids playing for Dukes this weekend
yes
How good of a team is Express 2022 B team? Any insight? Thank you.
There are 4 teams. Channy, Chuck's, Schwaije and O'Reilly
There are 4 teams. Channy, Chuck's, Schwaije and O'Reilly
Yup
AA - Channy
A - Schwalji
B+ - Chuck
B - Orielly
All good teams
Dukes is a proven path just ask Hopkins coach Pietramala. He plays his kid there.
So they didn't get out of the first round of the playoffs? Like I said. Igloo best team on LI. Soon to be taken over by 91 with the new addition. JS kid.
With your idiotic logic, it can be said that Igloo "got waxed" by Primetime in Denver. By the way, what is your definition of getting waxed? Would losing 7-10 be considered that? For most rational people, that would be seen as a competitive game. You need to get a clue. The tops teams are all great, with many talented players. And as far as 91 being the best team in the future because of the addition of one player, that is totally premature. No one player will make any team the best team. There are many key positions that contribute to a great and balanced team.
There are 4 teams. Channy, Chuck's, Schwaije and O'Reilly
Yup
AA - Channy
A - Schwalji
B+ - Chuck
B - Orielly
All good teams
You think Channy is putting his name on a B+Team, even Lynott??These guys produce D1 All Americans, so just stop! Not to mention 3 teams, NOT 4! Sorry you didn't get the email! Either way? Over 100 QUALITY kids at the tryout, easy to fill an AA(that's not changing) and add 2 "A's"! The summer will tell what they created!
Can anybody give me a run down on the Turtles?
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
Obviously you've never seen that one player out on the field. He makes your chosen Manhasset ones look like pee wees talent wise. But remember in seventh grade you were wsyl champs. Lol. Then couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs in a real tournament. Igloo, 91 then express. Its ok. And by the way how did that absolute beat down by the dukes feel. Shines off boys.
There are 4 teams. Channy, Chuck's, Schwaije and O'Reilly
Yup
AA - Channy
A - Schwalji
B+ - Chuck
B - Orielly
All good teams
You think Channy is putting his name on a B+Team, even Lynott??These guys produce D1 All Americans, so just stop! Not to mention 3 teams, NOT 4! Sorry you didn't get the email! Either way? Over 100 QUALITY kids at the tryout, easy to fill an AA(that's not changing) and add 2 "A's"! The summer will tell what they created!
They have 4 quality teams and 4 quality coaching staffs for each, so just stop! If the kids get quality instruction and improve, all good.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Don't worry in 3 years the turtles will be crushing everybody!
Obviously you've never seen that one player out on the field. He makes your chosen Manhasset ones look like pee wees talent wise. But remember in seventh grade you were wsyl champs. Lol. Then couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs in a real tournament. Igloo, 91 then express. Its ok. And by the way how did that absolute beat down by the dukes feel. Shines off boys.
Your very bitter ! I was there my kid was playing trying to earn a spot on the Channy team. As previously stated Express did NOT have hardly any of the Channy kids there. It was mainly kids that were trying to move up the depth chart ! Ripping on Express for getting beat up when they weren't playing to win is ridiculous !!
Did anyone see that Lega$$y rescheduled the same day that 9D1 is holding tryouts? I thought it was an unwritten rule to not have a tryout same day as other clubs! Zummo and his ego will take a bigger hit than it did last year getting beat up all season long !
What are the turtles all about?
You are delusional. Everyone will see what happens. Good to be humbled once in a while. All part of development. Express still shines bright. Send us your number or email and we'll invite you to the ESPN2 replay of the championship game and the upcoming WSYL ring ceremony.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
Did anyone see that Lega$$y rescheduled the same day that 9D1 is holding tryouts? I thought it was an unwritten rule to not have a tryout same day as other clubs! Zummo and his ego will take a bigger hit than it did last year getting beat up all season long !
There are plenty of teams that have tryouts on the same day . . .??
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
Funny how the only dad who is advocating the Schwalji the is the 2nd team, can't explain why in the world the 2nd team would not be coached by Channy and the best asst coaches!
Did anyone see that Lega$$y rescheduled the same day that 9D1 is holding tryouts? I thought it was an unwritten rule to not have a tryout same day as other clubs! Zummo and his ego will take a bigger hit than it did last year getting beat up all season long !
There are plenty of teams that have tryouts on the same day . . .??
ok show me???
How good of a team is Express 2022 B team? Any insight? Thank you.
Schwalji can be an A team and the Chuck can get there are well. Chuck is a lot of kids from the 2nd team from last with some new adds. Both will be good teams.
Did anyone see that Lega$$y rescheduled the same day that 9D1 is holding tryouts? I thought it was an unwritten rule to not have a tryout same day as other clubs! Zummo and his ego will take a bigger hit than it did last year getting beat up all season long !
There are plenty of teams that have tryouts on the same day . . .??
ok show me???
Do you get E-Mails from back of the cage - I get like 20 a day for upcoming tryouts, with many on the same days. Do your own homework.
Are you going to invite all 38 players or just the chosen 14 who never came off the field? Probably should have trusted your bench more you wouldn't have lost in the first round in Md. At the real championship. Maybe next time you won't be embarrassed by the dukes also. And by the way channy always plays to win. Dukes were in a different class though. Oh well. Enjoy the replay! Enjoy those rings from the gumball machine!
Did anyone see that Lega$$y rescheduled the same day that 9D1 is holding tryouts? I thought it was an unwritten rule to not have a tryout same day as other clubs! Zummo and his ego will take a bigger hit than it did last year getting beat up all season long !
Where is the conflict? 9d1 is on 8/10 and 8/17, legacy is on 8/9 and 8/17.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
Funny how the only dad who is advocating the Schwalji the is the 2nd team, can't explain why in the world the 2nd team would not be coached by Channy and the best asst coaches!
Funny how how you have nothing to do with either team or you would know.
Dukes is a proven path just ask Hopkins coach Pietramala. He plays his kid there.
That's True! I was surprised to see Coach Pietramala and his sons playing for Duke's Nationals. My son was amazed to see him there.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
Funny how the only dad who is advocating the Schwalji the is the 2nd team, can't explain why in the world the 2nd team would not be coached by Channy and the best asst coaches!
Funny how how you have nothing to do with either team or you would know.
Thanks for making my point! Still no answer......
hmmmm... doubt it. nice try
Are you going to invite all 38 players or just the chosen 14 who never came off the field? Probably should have trusted your bench more you wouldn't have lost in the first round in Md. At the real championship. Maybe next time you won't be embarrassed by the dukes also. And by the way channy always plays to win. Dukes were in a different class though. Oh well. Enjoy the replay! Enjoy those rings from the gumball machine!
want to remind you that express beat the dukes nationals team in the terps stadium in the fall and again in boston in the beginning of the summer. your son only played in one of those games. also be aware that six express starters were missing this past sunday. the team looks forward to playing dukes again in the future. would love to meet up with you and continue this exhange
How does Channy Jr have time to coach a team...Isnt he on Team USA....next summer he is gonzo
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
This must be one of the O'Reilly pets or wait, one of the non Hybrid parents. Channy giving out all kinds of stories lately. Let's see how things pan out.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
Funny how the only dad who is advocating the Schwalji the is the 2nd team, can't explain why in the world the 2nd team would not be coached by Channy and the best asst coaches!
Funny how how you have nothing to do with either team or you would know.
Thanks for making my point! Still no answer......
Confirmed. Schwalji is the 2nd A team.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
This must be one of the O'Reilly pets or wait, one of the non Hybrid parents. Channy giving out all kinds of stories lately. Let's see how things pan out.
My advice, save yourself the stress and accept the invites. All the teams will be good. Don't complain that my son should be here or there or tryouts were not fair. Or try to make calls and placed on a better team. If you are on Schwalji and your kid performs like he should be on AA, he will get a the look. Trust me that goes for Chuck as well. These kids have an VERY experienced varsity staff overseeing their development. It's a great pipeline to be in and all these kids will start maturing over the next few years and things will change. Take it to heart or with a grain of salt, but that's my view.
As of right now there are 4 teams. Chucks snd Schwalje are both B teams. How can you say they are A teams when the teams teams aren't fully committed and they haven't played anyone. No team is A until they prove there an A team. Whatever makes you feel better...
I've been with Express for years, just calling it how it is... both teams are B and don't be surprised when more kids are added to the roster that aren't considered A or B.
There is a definite pecking order as this is not PAL.
You are correct, you can't say what a new team, whom has not played together is going to turnout to be. Look what happened over at 9D1 with the Superteam, not so super.
You are further correct, its August! Rosters will change and change again in the spring. This is not just Express, happens in all clubs.
If you want to access potential of the teams:
2022 Channy - Unchanged AA
2022 Chucks - B+ to A potential
2022 Schwalje- B to A potential
2022 O'Reilly - doubt it will form due to lack of players. Can Express capture 100 players at 2022? If so, - C to B potential
Channy 1st team
Schwalji 2nd team
Chucks is the 3rd team
This must be one of the O'Reilly pets or wait, one of the non Hybrid parents. Channy giving out all kinds of stories lately. Let's see how things pan out.
My advice, save yourself the stress and accept the invites. All the teams will be good. Don't complain that my son should be here or there or tryouts were not fair. Or try to make calls and placed on a better team. If you are on Schwalji and your kid performs like he should be on AA, he will get a the look. Trust me that goes for Chuck as well. These kids have an VERY experienced varsity staff overseeing their development. It's a great pipeline to be in and all these kids will start maturing over the next few years and things will change. Take it to heart or with a grain of salt, but that's my view.
OK Express employee. Yeah right, I will jump on the invite not knowing who is really coaching the Chucks. Channy has his name all over the Chucks invite. He owns it. If he does not coach that team and dumps it on his son, well that's fraud to a tune $60,000.00. Doubt he would attempt that.
But the last time you played they smacked you around. How many excuses are you going to have? Channy didnt play to win, missing 6,7,8,all 10 starters. The page has turned. Dukes are and will be a better team whenever they play express from now on. And the dukes were missing quite a few players also. And still smacked you. No big deal. Hate to see how much you cry when igloo beats you(2 out of 3 times) and when jr. over at 91 steps on the field and dimantles you. The tears will be everywhere.
Nothing has changed except the kids are on summer break and having fun.
Dukes had most all of its top players. Good squad which consists of many elite players from the region and a handful who age up.
Remember when Express played Igloo last this summe, they won 8-4. And it was priceless when Primetime outplayed Igloo twice at the World Series and beat the 2021/2022 team in Semis.
It's not Mike Jr, it's Matt C.
Express got lucky they didn't have to play igloo at the World Series they would have got smoked couldn't even get out of the first round down in Maryland a much harder tournament and Primetime and igloo split one game each in the World Series great games listen to the commentators they even said so
Matt C is going to be a Sr in college...How can he possibly coach a team and play for his school...
They should have switch the semi's at the world's let igloo play Express and Api play prime time ..
Wow you people really are jealous about Express! It obvious that none of your kids play on the team, otherwise you would not be talking any [lacrosse] at all !!!
Express got lucky they didn't have to play igloo at the World Series they would have got smoked couldn't even get out of the first round down in Maryland a much harder tournament and Primetime and igloo split one game each in the World Series great games listen to the commentators they even said so
Luck had nothing to do with it. With that stupid logic one could say that Igloo got lucky at Millon's tournament. Should Igloo have played out of bracket in the playoffs at Millon. What other tournament rules do you want to retroactively establish (consideriering that you are the authority - NOT). Express' performance in the World Series speaks for itself. What are you smoking/waxing?
Wow you people really are jealous about Express! It obvious that none of your kids play on the team, otherwise you would not be talking any [lacrosse] at all !!!
All Igloo hate and jealousy. An inferiority complex. Remember when that team went 0 & 3 at Millon Elite 8 last year. Did anyone come on here and celebrate or rub it in? Answer is no. An number of the Igloo parents simply have no class. Hopefully the boys learn different ways and develop into better people. Still young and impressionable. Coach has his work cut out for him.
How did legggaaaacccc tryouts go. How was the turnout. Heard a lot of 91 kids there.
How did legggaaaacccc tryouts go. How was the turnout. Heard a lot of 91 kids there.
Sounds like you already know. What's the point of this post?
Six from 91 AA team were at Legacy tryouts.
Will be interesting to see if there are any of the legaceeee AA players at 9D1 tonight
I'd be running away from 90+1 too! Whole crap 4500 what the [lacrosse] do you get for that a gold plated helmet!
Just curious is that an accurate assessment of all the teams? My son was invited to play on Chuck's team. First year playing with Express. It looks to be two B teams. I was curious to know what skill level Chuck's team is at in relation to the other B team and the other teams.
I don't see any pricing for 9d1. You must be trying to scare people to give your son a better shot. Pathetic really
I heard leaga-C is $5,000
Sorry..... very, very different Dukes team. I would not count on that kind of success against them going forward.
Sorry, not scared of Express down in the real hotbed.
Wow you people really are jealous about Express! It obvious that none of your kids play on the team, otherwise you would not be talking any [lacrosse] at all !!!
Sooooooo NOT jealous! I would never want to be part of an organization that runs the way express runs. Guest players - 40 man roster - kids that live in Texas coming for certain tournaments. I would be embarrassed to be a part of that - sorry don't flatter yourself
Just curious is that an accurate assessment of all the teams? My son was invited to play on Chuck's team. First year playing with Express. It looks to be two B teams. I was curious to know what skill level Chuck's team is at in relation to the other B team and the other teams.
B+ team. A lot of returning players and some adds from tryouts.
someone explain to me the diff between Schwalje and Chuck team..I would rather be on Schwalje team i think because Chuck I think is a Sr in college..How can he coach while going to school and playing...Was told by a dad at tryouts that Schwalje is the 2nd team practicing with Channy team...My son is on Chuck and i just want to understand the difference
Just curious is that an accurate assessment of all the teams? My son was invited to play on Chuck's team. First year playing with Express. It looks to be two B teams. I was curious to know what skill level Chuck's team is at in relation to the other B team and the other teams.
B+ team. A lot of returning players and some adds from tryouts.
Agreed.
Team selection this year seems odd, at best.
Both teams appear similar in talent with potential to grow.
In reality, You won't know until you see who accepts the invites, which families fully commit time to the program and how the teams play together.
Chucks have a great coaching staff.....time will tell.
You are pathetic. They haven't even announced the pricing yet
Was at the 91 Tryout yesterday. Over 100 Kids and a ton of talent. Jr is by far the best in this age group in the country, fakes and shots are unbelievable for a kid his age. If he plays for this age group they are going to be fun to watch.
You are pathetic. They haven't even announced the pricing yet
And do you think that having tryouts for $100 without telling you the price isn't pathetic? The answer for price will be above $4000. That is a bet! And they have parents jammed up now in that they paid their money and limited their kids options. Without a doubt it is a dirtbag move.
Say what you want about them, but Igloo lead the way on this and now they are really the model. They got exclusive field access, now 91 bought the rights to a facility, its like the arms race to the most expensive. And these guys make $ on everything, and I mean everything.
I'm hearing crazy tuition numbers from Legassy and 9D1 ? Is this true, 5k for Legassy and 4500 for 9D1? Do they think money grows on trees?????
Was at the 91 Tryout yesterday. Over 100 Kids and a ton of talent. Jr is by far the best in this age group in the country, fakes and shots are unbelievable for a kid his age. If he plays for this age group they are going to be fun to watch.
Too bad Jr couldn't help 91 2022 at the WSYL
Of course he's the best. He should be. He is two years older than everyone.
I'm hearing crazy tuition numbers from Legassy and 9D1 ? Is this true, 5k for Legassy and 4500 for 9D1? Do they think money grows on trees?????
Terrible but its a business now......it will be an arms race until the parents say enough is enough. Parents are too afraid to say no.
Great sport getting ruined by greed.
Imagine if people saved this amount for college! or tutoring!
Luckily, we can kinda swing the cost for now.
It certainly give wealthy families a huge advantage!
So your plan is to come on here and make up a number regarding tuition. I think you did that to scare people away so your son has a better chance. That is a dirtbag move. As for tryouts, $100 is quite common these days and no one says you have to take the spot. If you dont like the price go play somewhere else, luckily there are plenty of options. Better yet since lacrosse is such a money making machine why dont you start your own program. This way your kid can play for free and you dont have to try and scare people away from tryouts. You could even name them The Phantoms after the numbers you make up.
I'm hearing crazy tuition numbers from Legassy and 9D1 ? Is this true, 5k for Legassy and 4500 for 9D1? Do they think money grows on trees?????
Who knows. But if economic pricing theory were true (supply and demand) that wouldn't be the case for club lax on LI. However, it is the upper tier club demand which drives up the pricing. You pay for a what is perceived to be a superior product. The sport is already socioeconomic as it was expensive for a lot people already. And you hear the same 2nd tier club feedback all the time... 1/2 the price, good coaching, and great families. But they seem to never take that next step to compete against the top clubs and as long as that divide exists, you will see more and more disparate pricing. I would love to see a 2nd tier club beat a top tier club and introduce more parity. All my opinion, but good subject to talk about.
Assuming Chuck practices with Channy's AA team, the practices will be frequent, fast paced and the coaching will be good. However, based on past experience when the 2022 B team has practiced with the AA team, the AA players will get preference in terms of reps etc in the different drills.
The bigger issue will be what happens at games and tournaments. Who will be the game day coaches for the Chuck team? This has been the biggest problem in the past. Unlikely, that Channy and Lynott Sr. will be coaching this team at tournaments given their commitments to their existing teams.
Curious what everyones opinion is regarding what seems to be a growing trend of LI clubs recruiting and taking kids from other states?
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Please explain it to me.if you jump from club to club and have a different couch every year how can your evaluate your child's progress. Do college coaches really care what club they played for! And did you know that four years of D1 college lacrosse adds ten years to your body age! Nobody else is doing this to your kid but you!
Did Turtles send out 2022 invites? If so when did they go out?
Curious what everyones opinion is regarding what seems to be a growing trend of LI clubs recruiting and taking kids from other states?
The win at any cost theory of lacrosse is not teaching our kids any values and or morals! We have enough talent on Long Island to beat anyone in the country ! As was proven in the Warrior All Star games ! Keep Long Island teams with OUR kids !
So your plan is to come on here and make up a number regarding tuition. I think you did that to scare people away so your son has a better chance. That is a dirtbag move. As for tryouts, $100 is quite common these days and no one says you have to take the spot. If you dont like the price go play somewhere else, luckily there are plenty of options. Better yet since lacrosse is such a money making machine why dont you start your own program. This way your kid can play for free and you dont have to try and scare people away from tryouts. You could even name them The Phantoms after the numbers you make up.
I like that, Thanks, for the idea. Phantoms Lax will smoke everyone next year!!!!!
Actually experiencing different coaches will add to a players growth and with regards to college coach caring were you play club is ridiculous and the only one's pushing that line are the club's themselves. High Schools you play at might have more of an impact especially with new guidelines for commitments. If you are good enough they will come. Best thing a young player can do is play multi-sports .
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
Good luck on Chuck team. When will he show up. Lol
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Hello
Can you enlighten me about A and AA teams
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Hello
Can you enlighten me about A and AA teams
What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Hello
Can you enlighten me about A and AA teams
What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
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I think there is some apprehension and some declines are likely causing roster shifts. But in the end these teams should be good for what they are. They are all 2nd teams and in 10 months your son is hopefully better and ready for HS ball.
Looks light on workload, you are going to have to pay extra to keep your boy working . My bet is 3k for the older boys (plus travel).
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Hello
Can you enlighten me about A and AA teams
What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
None of the designations - AA, A, & B - are about making anyone feel better. Keep telling yourself that, though, so it makes YOU feel better. It's actually all about a logical approach to moving towards a better governed youth sport. Like youth hockey has done.
Bottom line with all this craziness is I find it's better to just stay put. If you have your son about to be on his 3rd new team in less than 4 years - then you should probably start to stay put, especially if you did the multi team tryout. I say that because at tryouts I have never seen an A team player slip through. It's NOT a case of my son can play with them, it's showing enough that the addition will improve the team.. Sorry, it's true. And better the team, the harder it is make it. End result is that the team your son landed on, is very likely the right spot. But some will call, text and email incessantly to prove history wrong. I did his with my older son and it was a mistake. Don't get mixed up in A, B, C or anything else. Just let them get better and get on a team where his is one of the better players. Not the bottom player on the best team. He won't improve, trust me. And don't say the training is so good its worth it.
“It is a tenet of good coaching that you get kids into games,” writes Jim Thompson, founder and CEO of the Positive Coaching Alliance, a US Lacrosse national partner. “Most of the benefits of playing a sport are tied to competing in games.”
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https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/good-coaches-get-players-into-games)
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Schwalje 2022 is the team that is practicing with the Channy AA team. Schwalje got the boys that were on the AA team last year that didnt play too much..Some new kids also on the team from what my son told me.
Oh and your son knows. Channy told us directly that Chuck's team will be practicing with his team and that there are AA kids on Chuck's team as well. Love how you don't have accurate information or better yet, listening to the gossip of your 13 year old on snap chat.
I would confirm, but somebody else will just say the opposite. We'll see it play out on the fields. Can't wait for the Chuck v Schwalje scrimmage.
Hello
Can you enlighten me about A and AA teams
What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
None of the designations - AA, A, & B - are about making anyone feel better. Keep telling yourself that, though, so it makes YOU feel better. It's actually all about a logical approach to moving towards a better governed youth sport. Like youth hockey has done.
better
Better governed? you are crazy!!!! These clubs care only about the $$$$$$ A, B, C or AA, A, B doesn't matter. Top Team, Next team and team after that. The labels are for the parents so than can brag! Yeah next comment will be my kids play on [lacrosse] teams and could not make the AA Team. Whatever you want to believe.....
All the kids are good, the parents are crazy. People will come on here and defend their team, then when tryout time comes they will go to the clubs tryouts they have been bashing all season. Last year they all ran to Legacy, this year its Express, good luck meatballs!
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What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
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None of the designations - AA, A, & B - are about making anyone feel better. Keep telling yourself that, though, so it makes YOU feel better. It's actually all about a logical approach to moving towards a better governed youth sport. Like youth hockey has done. [/quote]better
Better governed? you are crazy!!!! These clubs care only about the $$$$$$ A, B, C or AA, A, B doesn't matter. Top Team, Next team and team after that. The labels are for the parents so than can brag! Yeah next comment will be my kids play on [lacrosse] teams and could not make the AA Team. Whatever you want to believe.....
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Youth hockey is a great corollary - governance doesn't come from the clubs, nor should it. That's where you don't get it. It's not about the tail wagging the dog!
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What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
None of the designations - AA, A, & B - are about making anyone feel better. Keep telling yourself that, though, so it makes YOU feel better. It's actually all about a logical approach to moving towards a better governed youth sport. Like youth hockey has done. [/quote]better
Better governed? you are crazy!!!! These clubs care only about the $$$$$$ A, B, C or AA, A, B doesn't matter. Top Team, Next team and team after that. The labels are for the parents so than can brag! Yeah next comment will be my kids play on [lacrosse] teams and could not make the AA Team. Whatever you want to believe.....
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Youth hockey is a great corollary - governance doesn't come from the clubs, nor should it. That's where you don't get it. It's not about the tail wagging the dog! [/quote
That's the problem with lacrosse no organization is running the show. US lacrosse is on the sidelines. The clubs control everything even the tournaments makes and the recruiting events. Way too much money passing hands. They will never get on line with regulations
What I call A others call AA makes them feel better
What I call B others call A. Makes them feel better
What I call C others calll B. Makes them feel better
AA is the best. Followed by A good but not great. Then B. Good but needs improvement though compete with A.
None of the designations - AA, A, & B - are about making anyone feel better. Keep telling yourself that, though, so it makes YOU feel better. It's actually all about a logical approach to moving towards a better governed youth sport. Like youth hockey has done. [/quote]better
Better governed? you are crazy!!!! These clubs care only about the $$$$$$ A, B, C or AA, A, B doesn't matter. Top Team, Next team and team after that. The labels are for the parents so than can brag! Yeah next comment will be my kids play on [lacrosse] teams and could not make the AA Team. Whatever you want to believe.....
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Youth hockey is a great corollary - governance doesn't come from the clubs, nor should it. That's where you don't get it. It's not about the tail wagging the dog! [/quote
That's the problem with lacrosse no organization is running the show. US lacrosse is on the sidelines. The clubs control everything even the tournaments makes and the recruiting events. Way too much money passing hands. They will never get on line with regulations
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That's the prevailing fallacy: that somehow if lax was better organized and governed, that the big clubs would suddenly make less money. There is not some limited money balloon that all of the teams must get a piece of pie from - if the sport grows, which can only happen with maturity, the pie gets bigger and the money increases. It is akin to an economy and wealth creation, albeit there are too many people that don't understand that aspect of wealth creation either! The bottom line is that big clubs will continue to make as much, if not more, than they do now, while smaller clubs will also make money.
fl$ tonight and Wednesday night, up and coming team?
fl$ loses to town teams. Program blows. 4K for mediocre training and since they are not in the NLF like Igloo they make up their own tourneys with 3D. Run as far away as you can from this group
fl$ loses to town teams. Program blows. 4K for mediocre training and since they are not in the NLF like Igloo they make up their own tourneys with 3D. Run as far away as you can from this group
To each their own.... Some really good talent their tonight. They will be just fine.
They don't lose to town teams. Get your facts straight. Good team 2022, adding a few more pieces. Let's see where it goes this season. Lastly, 3D is a major recruiting tourney in the HS ages.
They don't lose to town teams. Get your facts straight. Good team 2022, adding a few more pieces. Let's see where it goes this season. Lastly, 3D is a major recruiting tourney in the HS ages.
Not part of the club. But my older boy got a lot interest playing at the fall, spring and summer 3D events.
They don't lose to town teams. Get your facts straight. Good team 2022, adding a few more pieces. Let's see where it goes this season. Lastly, 3D is a major recruiting tourney in the HS ages.
Not part of the club. But my older boy got a lot interest playing at the fall, spring and summer 3D events.
It's run by Sachem coaches! That says it all ! If you want to pay 4k for a B team go for it !
fl$ loses to town teams. Program blows. 4K for mediocre training and since they are not in the NLF like Igloo they make up their own tourneys with 3D. Run as far away as you can from this group
Sure - anyone NOT affiliated with NLF should just quit the sport and do something else! The pompousness displayed by what seems like way too many on these boards is sickening.
Let me get this stright so I understand. Everybody fights every year to get on the A team that supposed to be the killer team. And every parent thinks their kid is going to play D1. Do you realize the colleges don't give a crap who your kid plays for or how many championships they won at 13! They only care about the finished product. By 9th grade weither your kid is on A or B if he is not in the top 5 on the team it's not gonna happen!
Let me get this stright so I understand. Everybody fights every year to get on the A team that supposed to be the killer team. And every parent thinks their kid is going to play D1. Do you realize the colleges don't give a crap who your kid plays for or how many championships they won at 13! They only care about the finished product. By 9th grade weither your kid is on A or B if he is not in the top 5 on the team it's not gonna happen!
What I have learned is that people are more attacted to have their kids vplaying with better kids. The AA, A, B stuff is factor as well. But a lot of money and time Is being spent and the return should be good coaching and every kid at this level should be able to catch and throw and have an IQ for the game.
Let me get this stright so I understand. Everybody fights every year to get on the A team that supposed to be the killer team. And every parent thinks their kid is going to play D1. Do you realize the colleges don't give a crap who your kid plays for or how many championships they won at 13! They only care about the finished product. By 9th grade weither your kid is on A or B if he is not in the top 5 on the team it's not gonna happen!
Not concerned about top 10 D1 schools. The bottom half of D1, or any of the NESCAC schools are awesome. When your grades are A you have a whole lot of choices!
Did anyone get a call or email from True Blue, yet. They said 2 weeks but was just asking...Thanks
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
False! Your little birdie 🤥
Outlaws
Lost One quality player added 5 or 6
Did your Birdie tell you that
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
False! Your little birdie 🤥
TRUE!!!!!!
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
Did anyone get a call or email from True Blue, yet. They said 2 weeks but was just asking...Thanks
Why would it take so long? Are they agonizing owed who to pick as the 3rd line Middie? Get it done so folks can settle in, or more importantly scramble if a kid needs to connect with another team.
Any call from True Blue yet ..Anyone
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
False! Your little birdie 🤥
TRUE!!!!!!
Its funny how Outlaw parents live in a dream world! Your competition got better and you lost players, but will insist that everything is OK in Outlaw land ! You are all crazy and deserve each other !!
You are just jealous your wife doesn't have a skull and cross bones tattoo on the small of her back next to the Pineapple...
Any call from True Blue yet ..Anyone
No worries, everyone is taken at True Blue, just wait for your email.
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
False! Your little birdie 🤥
TRUE!!!!!!
Its funny how Outlaw parents live in a dream world! Your competition got better and you lost players, but will insist that everything is OK in Outlaw land ! You are all crazy and deserve each other !!
The bottom line is that they lost some players and gained some players just like every other club on LI. I think they will be better this year but I also think every other club will be better. I know Igloo and Express picked up some players and 91 picked up JR so its going to be a fun year - Crazy amount of talent at this age.
A little birdie told me big turnover at Outlaws Select. Lost a bunch of players 9D1 and Express. I guess the rumors are true no one wants PB as a coach it was just a matter of time !
False! Your little birdie 🤥
TRUE!!!!!!
Its funny how Outlaw parents live in a dream world! Your competition got better and you lost players, but will insist that everything is OK in Outlaw land ! You are all crazy and deserve each other !!
Yes.. it is funny... but we all get along... all the kids that remain.. and that bothers you and makes you bitter.. have fun wherever you end up. BYE
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Yes he is better than your son, He will be missed considering he accounted for a large portion of your goals until his injury! You certainly didn't get any new parts that were that good I was at the tryout and that is why we will not be playing there !
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Yes he is better than your son, He will be missed considering he accounted for a large portion of your goals until his injury! You certainly didn't get any new parts that were that good I was at the tryout and that is why we will not be playing there !
Yes - he is better than my son, but this team does not have one single "top player" as you suggest... they contributed as a team - each brought something different to the team. To suggest that there is one single best player on the team is ridiculous including anyone who has departed or is remaining.
The kid wasn't one of the top five scorers on the team. Sorry. You are wrong. Not even close. But he he did take by far the most shots, lol.
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Yes he is better than your son, He will be missed considering he accounted for a large portion of your goals until his injury! You certainly didn't get any new parts that were that good I was at the tryout and that is why we will not be playing there !
Yes - he is better than my son, but this team does not have one single "top player" as you suggest... they contributed as a team - each brought something different to the team. To suggest that there is one single best player on the team is ridiculous including anyone who has departed or is remaining.
OK Whatever make you sleep at night! The bottom line is your not nearly as good as last year ! and you weren't that good last year!
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Yes he is better than your son, He will be missed considering he accounted for a large portion of your goals until his injury! You certainly didn't get any new parts that were that good I was at the tryout and that is why we will not be playing there !
Yes - he is better than my son, but this team does not have one single "top player" as you suggest... they contributed as a team - each brought something different to the team. To suggest that there is one single best player on the team is ridiculous including anyone who has departed or is remaining.
OK Whatever make you sleep at night! The bottom line is your not nearly as good as last year ! and you weren't that good last year!
Thank you for your honest assessment. Bye!
Scand just won't let it go with the outlaws. Please go back to your city team. They lost 1 starter who was hurt most of last year. And 1 starter nobody wanted back. They've been replaced by equal caliber or better players. All the others were backups who barely played. They have definitely gotten better. But you will keep bashing like you know what's going on.
LOL that funny ! You know that Outlaws lost there best player and a bunch more ! Its all good if you want to go back to playing in a bunch of tournaments where there is only B teams and win a few T-shirts! We all know you won't win any playing in the AA brackets !!!!!
Their best player ? Granted a top player that left is very good - the team was without him due to an injury for several top tournaments at the end of the season - so they learned to play / adjust without him. He will be missed.. but the level of talent coming in and the volume of talent will more than make up for it with depth that was badly needed. Keep bashing because that is what you do and let the kids play. Just don't lose to them in 2018 - because that would be the end of the world for you - right ?
Yes he is better than your son, He will be missed considering he accounted for a large portion of your goals until his injury! You certainly didn't get any new parts that were that good I was at the tryout and that is why we will not be playing there !
Yes - he is better than my son, but this team does not have one single "top player" as you suggest... they contributed as a team - each brought something different to the team. To suggest that there is one single best player on the team is ridiculous including anyone who has departed or is remaining.
OK Whatever make you sleep at night! The bottom line is your not nearly as good as last year ! and you weren't that good last year!
It's obvious who this person is. If your no longer on the team just move on!
Players move from team to team every year. Any move to one of the top 3 is in fact moving to a better team. Is that so bad? It's why 2nd tier clubs A teams can't ever compete with the big boys, because the better kids (parents) want to be on the best team they can. Same is true for 2nd teams, the best kid (parent) on the 2nd team cares about one thing... being on the A team. And when they don't move up or get the invite they hound the director for weeks looking for answers in the hope of the getting the spot of the first kid that says no that made the team. SMH...
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
No relationship to either teams, but these are 12 13 and 14 year old boys and it is not right to be publicly talking about them online. Let it go and wish everyone well
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
Calling a 13 year kid overrated..pathetic on your part.
Players move from team to team every year. Any move to one of the top 3 is in fact moving to a better team. Is that so bad? It's why 2nd tier clubs A teams can't ever compete with the big boys, because the better kids (parents) want to be on the best team they can. Same is true for 2nd teams, the best kid (parent) on the 2nd team cares about one thing... being on the A team. And when they don't move up or get the invite they hound the director for weeks looking for answers in the hope of the getting the spot of the first kid that says no that made the team. SMH...
That make no sense? Why would a director even talk to a parent after he is placed on a team unless director said to follow up?
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
Calling a 13 year kid overrated..pathetic on your part.
Lacrosse parents really are crazy. You love the kid when he's on your team than call him over rate when he loves on. Really is pathetic when you think about it. So much animosity toward a child.
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
Calling a 13 year kid overrated..pathetic on your part.
My 2 cents: the parent came on here and called his kid the best. He opened himself up to the criticism.
Only One good player left Outlaws. He was injured most of summer
He will be missed. As for the attackman who left, Thank you, Not the kid he was all right, but losing the dad was a blessing
Say what you want about Outlaws, they improved, and will again only play the top tournaments.
Think practices start next week
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
I have no dog in this fight.
But I must call you out & stick up for this 12-13yr old boy who happens to play the sport of lacrosse on a summer team.
Singling out a 12-13 yr old boy? You are a disgusting cyber bully.
Occasionally there are players that read these boards (and respond sounding like a parent). Who knows what kind of damage a statement like that can do to him? What was your confidence level at 12-13?
Pathetic.
Players move from team to team every year. Any move to one of the top 3 is in fact moving to a better team. Is that so bad? It's why 2nd tier clubs A teams can't ever compete with the big boys, because the better kids (parents) want to be on the best team they can. Same is true for 2nd teams, the best kid (parent) on the 2nd team cares about one thing... being on the A team. And when they don't move up or get the invite they hound the director for weeks looking for answers in the hope of the getting the spot of the first kid that says no that made the team. SMH...
That make no sense? Why would a director even talk to a parent after he is placed on a team unless director said to follow up?
Because client retention.
Maryland parent here. How is the igloo goalie doing?
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
Calling a 13 year kid overrated..pathetic on your part.
My 2 cents: the parent came on here and called his kid the best. He opened himself up to the criticism.
Really. Some person makes a statement and it's okay . Take the high road and just move on. But somebody can't process that a statement was and felt they needed to criticize a 13 year olds abilty.
Best player? Try most overrated player. Shoots hard but no where close to the cage. Not impressed. Team played better without him. Wish him well on his next team.
Calling a 13 year kid overrated..pathetic on your part.
My 2 cents: the parent came on here and called his kid the best. He opened himself up to the criticism.
Really. Some person makes a statement and it's okay . Take the high road and just move on. But somebody can't process that a statement was and felt they needed to criticize a 13 year olds abilty.
Nowhere in any of these posts does the person say that it is their child ! It mentions him being better than other peoples kids but no mention of it being his/her child. Lets all move on from ripping parents and children over a kids game !
Maryland parent here. How is the igloo goalie doing?
Nice of you to ask. I heard he recuperating and is expected to make a full recovery and he is trying out for the outlaws ; )
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
I thought the Outlaws Jarna was about developing the player and not just winning tournes?
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Good honest post and finally an outlaw parent who admits that they are not in the top 5. No igloo or express A kids left fornoutlaws so must of picked up some B kids that got cut. Regardless I am sure there will be a tournament in the fall with 91, express, igloo, legacy and igloo B that you can bring your son to and watch the best LI teams
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
You all sound ridiculous ! Who cares really ! The Outlaws will be good they always put a solid product on the field. All the other teams will also be good so it should be fun watching everyone shoot for Express this year !!
Without a doubt 9D1 will be the best... can't see the team losing any games this year
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
I thought the Outlaws Jarna was about developing the player and not just winning tournes?
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Good honest post and finally an outlaw parent who admits that they are not in the top 5. No igloo or express A kids left fornoutlaws so must of picked up some B kids that got cut. Regardless I am sure there will be a tournament in the fall with 91, express, igloo, legacy and igloo B that you can bring your son to and watch the best LI teams
Not True
Outlaws has all the best lifestyle gear. Throw in the rod solo's and the perfection combination for a fun weekend. The out law nation is growing. Brand your lady and show the world.
Without a doubt 9D1 will be the best... can't see the team losing any games this year
You must have been at the tryout listening to that idiot Joe Spalina. I will say there was a lot of talent for both tryouts !
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Was at the 91 tryout yesterday. Spallina says he will be helping coach the 2022AA team and JR will be playing with them 80% of the time. It looks like the AA is going to be adding size and speed at all positions. They are going to be much better than last years Super Team. A team is also going to be much better. they are are also adding a 3rd team.
Never heard a child referred to as a product! What are they chucky dolls!
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Empire??
Really
I believe Legacy will be much improved as well! Tryouts looked like there was a ton of talent there. I did hear tho some parents complaining about some kids being offered them playing for free. Is that legal?
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Loving the Outlaws look coming out of tryouts This team will be much much improved
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Empire??
Really
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Empire will be very competitive this year
Witch igloo attackmen went to Outlaws A or b team
Witch igloo attackmen went to Outlaws A or b team
Its all BS. The Outlaw parents will say anything to convince themselves that they are actually good! They say the same crap every year and every year they are mediocre at best! So pathetic
This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Empire will be very competitive this year
You sound like the Outlaws losers ! Stop talking about it and start showing it!
I believe Legacy will be much improved as well! Tryouts looked like there was a ton of talent there. I did hear tho some parents complaining about some kids being offered them playing for free. Is that legal?
Well could they get much worse? They were awful last year, my goodness I think Zummo should give the parents their money back for that failure! He had them travel all over the place shelling out all kinds of cash and got NOTHING in return! Zummo is scammer for sure !!
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This outlaws 2022 Team with 100% be improved. Upgrade at goalie kid from 91. Two west I slip midfielders who are studs. Two empire defense men one argued to be the best on the island. An express and an igloo attackmen both being added to the roster as well.
No one will be able to tell how good any of these teams will be, but I'm looking forward to the competitive atmosphere that will come in the upcoming month. Though we all compete with each other to almost pathetic ends that's why college coaches come to see these Long Island boys play. They love the competiveness and you don't have to be on a top 5 team to go top 10 d1. I will promise you that. The best kids get seen and the best kids get recruited. Everyone has a spot to play in college. Just have to find the right fit. Let your kids do what they want to do and stop playing through them.
As for the player who left the outlaws there is no need to bash a 12-13 year old kid. He's an amazing talent and will be missed. Stinks we didn't have him most of summer but I hope he recovers well from his injury and has success in the future.
What is the first fall tournament we will see the top teams on the island at?
Honestly? The best defender on LI is from Empire? Lets be real....
Yes... Empire.. we almost took Express out this year at Laxfest.
Go play horseshoes on the beach. You will have a better chance of winning.
Empire will be very competitive this year
You sound like the Outlaws losers ! Stop talking about it and start showing it!
So bitter!
I believe Legacy will be much improved as well! Tryouts looked like there was a ton of talent there. I did hear tho some parents complaining about some kids being offered them playing for free. Is that legal?
Is that Legal? - That's Awesome, thanks for the laugh
Was at the 91 tryout yesterday. Spallina says he will be helping coach the 2022AA team and JR will be playing with them 80% of the time. It looks like the AA is going to be adding size and speed at all positions. They are going to be much better than last years Super Team. A team is also going to be much better. they are are also adding a 3rd team.
Interesting a 3rd team. 7 teams at the grade between them and Express.
When will 91 create a national team
91 tried to create a third team last year and it fell apart. they ended up with 5 2022 kids and combined with 2021 - and were pretty bad. 2021 Black, Why would this year's result be different?
91 tried to create a third team last year and it fell apart. they ended up with 5 2022 kids and combined with 2021 - and were pretty bad. 2021 Black, Why would this year's result be different?
That's always a concern when you go beyond 2. Need to have a coach that is 100% committed. I think one of the most frustrating things in club lax is when your son is not on the 1st team and the 1st team is practicing and getting better and your team is shut down for winter and spring and the coach doesn't know how to reply to emails.
Witch igloo attackmen went to Outlaws A or b team
Its all BS. The Outlaw parents will say anything to convince themselves that they are actually good! They say the same crap every year and every year they are mediocre at best! So pathetic
It was the kid who played for Igloo A in sixth grade and took last year off to play hockey. Good pickup but doesn't hurt Team Penguin at all.
I doubt he's on B, they have a handful of decent players and the rest are C!
I doubt he's on B, they have a handful of decent players and the rest are C!
What does this response mean? LW
Anyone know when does 91 post the pinnies numbers on their website? I heard this weekend and today is Sunday already.
Anyone know when does 91 post the pinnies numbers on their website? I heard this weekend and today is Sunday already.
They said Monday at tryouts
WOW, awfully quiet on here !
91 tried to create a third team last year and it fell apart. they ended up with 5 2022 kids and combined with 2021 - and were pretty bad. 2021 Black, Why would this year's result be different?
That's always a concern when you go beyond 2. Need to have a coach that is 100% committed. I think one of the most frustrating things in club lax is when your son is not on the 1st team and the 1st team is practicing and getting better and your team is shut down for winter and spring and the coach doesn't know how to reply to emails.
Express still thinks they have enough kids to field 4 teams, I would love to see that ! I will predict it 2 good 2 terrible !
91 tried to create a third team last year and it fell apart. they ended up with 5 2022 kids and combined with 2021 - and were pretty bad. 2021 Black, Why would this year's result be different?
That's always a concern when you go beyond 2. Need to have a coach that is 100% committed. I think one of the most frustrating things in club lax is when your son is not on the 1st team and the 1st team is practicing and getting better and your team is shut down for winter and spring and the coach doesn't know how to reply to emails.
Express still thinks they have enough kids to field 4 teams, I would love to see that ! I will predict it 2 good 2 terrible !
More likely i3, but that's my guess.
Anyone know when does 91 post the pinnies numbers on their website? I heard this weekend and today is Sunday already.
They said Monday at tryouts
91 rosters are posted
23 players on 2022 AA roster, perfect number!!
I made blue. Is that AAA? Can I use my AAA discount?
I made blue. Is that AAA? Can I use my AAA discount?
My man Blue!
23 players on 2022 AA roster, perfect number!!
They already said they will add players as needed. Your 23 will be 26-28. Remember they have the new indoor facility to pay for !
I have a serious question. When these travel teams have a tryout is there even spots open or do they just take your money in hopes your child can make the team? I have seen too many tryouts where kids not just mine had played very well and did not make the team? What are they looking for?
Ready for some action here to see how the teams are. What are the main events in the fall? And what teams had the biggest pickups and drops?
I have a serious question. When these travel teams have a tryout is there even spots open or do they just take your money in hopes your child can make the team? I have seen too many tryouts where kids not just mine had played very well and did not make the team? What are they looking for?
most teams at this age are taking return players and there are not a lot of spots open( if any) or they are looking for specific positions to fill and probably already know which kids are coming ...
I have a serious question. When these travel teams have a tryout is there even spots open or do they just take your money in hopes your child can make the team? I have seen too many tryouts where kids not just mine had played very well and did not make the team? What are they looking for?
most teams at this age are taking return players and there are not a lot of spots open( if any) or they are looking for specific positions to fill and probably already know which kids are coming ...
In all fairness, the coaches (and organizations) also know who is actually looking to move from the top teams and who is there for the workout - so if your son is already on a good team and doesn't get an offer it may be because they don't think he would take it anyway (this is when having a frank discussion helps). Seen this at the Express and 91 tryouts where evaluators have said not to bother with a kid with a certain helmet because "if he was serious about coming over here, we would have known about it already."
Spots are always open. Some are earned, but in most cases the club knows a kid is coming down because most of the better players are known. I doubt Express AA added any offensive players that will contribute. And if they did add, they are just parents who politically got their kid on the team. That means they will likely struggle to see the field.
Hilarious how folks put down other teams, other children who are 12/13. If 1 organization was perfect there would not be 20 teams on Long island. Worry about your own child and your own coach. Perhaps look in the mirror and let it go Dad. Legacy will have a great year like they did last year. Great group of parents. Great group of Children. Great group of coaches. Good luck to all the boys this year.
Does anyone know when True Blue 2022 invites will be sent out?
First round was sent out on Tuesday Morning.
What does everyone think of 91 2022A? I see them as a solid team who competed in all AA tournaments last year and saw great competition.
What does everyone think of 91 2022A? I see them as a solid team who competed in all AA tournaments last year and saw great competition.
Sounds like you answer your own question, no need anyone else's opinion when yours comes first.
What does everyone think of 91 2022A? I see them as a solid team who competed in all AA tournaments last year and saw great competition.
Sounds like you answer your own question, no need anyone else's opinion when yours comes first.
My son was picked on this team, from what I understand they basically kept same kids plus or minus a few. So if they play in a B division we will win a lot of games. If we play in a A division we will lose a lot of games. I guess we see what happens. Great coaching is why i'm staying!
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
What does everyone think of 91 2022A? I see them as a solid team who competed in all AA tournaments last year and saw great competition.
Good Team, Well coached, Lots of Practices, Tuition includes winter DLT training which is awesome. I also think they be practicing with the AA Team this year. If you want your kid to get better it's a good solid choice.
Ready for some action here to see how the teams are. What are the main events in the fall? And what teams had the biggest pickups and drops?
I have a son at this age and all the kids seem to know each other, This is what I am hearing;
1. Express A - didn't make many changes that will effect them. 1st team will be very good as usually but a lot of the second teamers left or will be on there B Team.
2. Igloo - added a few player but i don't think they will have a big impact, already a very solid team.
3. 91 - probably made the most changes, lost a lot of players and added some real talent. Only 22/21 players on the team maybe even less. Won't be surprised if they are the team to beat.
4. Outlaws - Lost 1 good player but added a bunch of good players - significant upgrade from last year.
5. Leeegeeeceee - added a bunch of players from 91 AA will be much improved.
Thoughts? Let's keep it factually and positive. Should be a fun year with this group.
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
Here is the frustrating part with these teams. They are not good enough to compete with the Top 5 teams in the AA bracket. They kill all the B teams that they play so those games suck to watch. There is very little competitive lacrosse in this bracket on Long Island !
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
Here is the frustrating part with these teams. They are not good enough to compete with the Top 5 teams in the AA bracket. They kill all the B teams that they play so those games suck to watch. There is very little competitive lacrosse in this bracket on Long Island !
There are plenty of tournaments that have A team divisions that are not AA teams - it's like the whole lax world wants to pretend that there is not a whole swath of talent between AA teams and true B teams. It's a major reason youth lax is so far down the curve when compared to other sports. The A teams from many of the non-Igloo/Express/91 clubs are very good, and are not B (talent) teams.
True though tournaments like NXT and a few others they are very competitive to the A group. They true AA, A and B groups
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
Here is the frustrating part with these teams. They are not good enough to compete with the Top 5 teams in the AA bracket. They kill all the B teams that they play so those games suck to watch. There is very little competitive lacrosse in this bracket on Long Island !
There are plenty of tournaments that have A team divisions that are not AA teams - it's like the whole lax world wants to pretend that there is not a whole swath of talent between AA teams and true B teams. It's a major reason youth lax is so far down the curve when compared to other sports. The A teams from many of the non-Igloo/Express/91 clubs are very good, and are not B (talent) teams.
My son played on 9D1 A team last year. We beat up on B teams and Struggled against true A teams like Outlaws, Express, just to name a few. There is a big gap in talent between AA, A, and B no doubt about it!
Ready for some action here to see how the teams are. What are the main events in the fall? And what teams had the biggest pickups and drops?
I have a son at this age and all the kids seem to know each other, This is what I am hearing;
1. Express A - didn't make many changes that will effect them. 1st team will be very good as usually but a lot of the second teamers left or will be on there B Team.
2. Igloo - added a few player but i don't think they will have a big impact, already a very solid team.
3. 91 - probably made the most changes, lost a lot of players and added some real talent. Only 22/21 players on the team maybe even less. Won't be surprised if they are the team to beat.
4. Outlaws - Lost 1 good player but added a bunch of good players - significant upgrade from last year.
5. Leeegeeeceee - added a bunch of players from 91 AA will be much improved.
Thoughts? Let's keep it factually and positive. Should be a fun year with this group.
What about Express B, 91 B and Igloo B? Any changes to those teams?
Ready for some action here to see how the teams are. What are the main events in the fall? And what teams had the biggest pickups and drops?
I have a son at this age and all the kids seem to know each other, This is what I am hearing;
1. Express A - didn't make many changes that will effect them. 1st team will be very good as usually but a lot of the second teamers left or will be on there B Team.
2. Igloo - added a few player but i don't think they will have a big impact, already a very solid team.
3. 91 - probably made the most changes, lost a lot of players and added some real talent. Only 22/21 players on the team maybe even less. Won't be surprised if they are the team to beat.
4. Outlaws - Lost 1 good player but added a bunch of good players - significant upgrade from last year.
5. Leeegeeeceee - added a bunch of players from 91 AA will be much improved.
Thoughts? Let's keep it factually and positive. Should be a fun year with this group.
What about Express B, 91 B and Igloo B? Any changes to those teams?
I think is all a zero sum gain. Every team added good players.
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
Here is the frustrating part with these teams. They are not good enough to compete with the Top 5 teams in the AA bracket. They kill all the B teams that they play so those games suck to watch. There is very little competitive lacrosse in this bracket on Long Island !
There are plenty of tournaments that have A team divisions that are not AA teams - it's like the whole lax world wants to pretend that there is not a whole swath of talent between AA teams and true B teams. It's a major reason youth lax is so far down the curve when compared to other sports. The A teams from many of the non-Igloo/Express/91 clubs are very good, and are not B (talent) teams.
My son played on 9D1 A team last year. We beat up on B teams and Struggled against true A teams like Outlaws, Express, just to name a few. There is a big gap in talent between AA, A, and B no doubt about it!
When you say "true A teams", with respect to Outlaws are you referring to their Select or Gold team? Similar question Re: Express - which team(s)? Even under a properly structured talent system, which lax does NOT even come close to having (!), there will be weaker A teams that will not have much success against other A teams, especially the stronger A teams. That's the way it's supposed to work! That does not mean the weak A team is B, nor does it mean the strong A team is really AA. A weak A team should probably play a mix of tourneys both at the B and A level (more A than B, though) - there are benefits in doing both for team and player development. Similarly, a strong A team should play in both A and AA tourneys. A strong B team should probably play in an A tourney, but stick mostly to B tourneys. Until people are honest about assessing teams and creating tournaments properly around talent levels, the lax tourney world will continue to be a mess. An age-based system for all pre-HS levels would also help that problem.
What about Empire Green? What's that team all about this year?
Is that a true question ? Imploded lost top players
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
Word is the precking order will be the same. Give me a break with these additions and we got this and they got that. Unless the top kids from the big 3 move, it's not changing the overall landscape. Will a team give a tough game to the top 3, sure. But in the end, nothing is shifting I'm a significant way. Fact! If your son's team was B last year, it's B this year.
They'll be line Express Schwalje and Igloo B. I'll guess they will be on par or better than 2nd tier A teams at the age.
Here is the frustrating part with these teams. They are not good enough to compete with the Top 5 teams in the AA bracket. They kill all the B teams that they play so those games suck to watch. There is very little competitive lacrosse in this bracket on Long Island !
There are plenty of tournaments that have A team divisions that are not AA teams - it's like the whole lax world wants to pretend that there is not a whole swath of talent between AA teams and true B teams. It's a major reason youth lax is so far down the curve when compared to other sports. The A teams from many of the non-Igloo/Express/91 clubs are very good, and are not B (talent) teams.
My son played on 9D1 A team last year. We beat up on B teams and Struggled against true A teams like Outlaws, Express, just to name a few. There is a big gap in talent between AA, A, and B no doubt about it!
Ha ha...true A teams like outlaws, outlaws is a solid B team. Always lost to 91, always will. Never beat igloo, express etc. and never will. Outlaws are somewhere between 4-8 on LI and not close to top 10 in LI/Maryland.
Ready for some action here to see how the teams are. What are the main events in the fall? And what teams had the biggest pickups and drops?
I have a son at this age and all the kids seem to know each other, This is what I am hearing;
1. Express A - didn't make many changes that will effect them. 1st team will be very good as usually but a lot of the second teamers left or will be on there B Team.
2. Igloo - added a few player but i don't think they will have a big impact, already a very solid team.
3. 91 - probably made the most changes, lost a lot of players and added some real talent. Only 22/21 players on the team maybe even less. Won't be surprised if they are the team to beat.
4. Outlaws - Lost 1 good player but added a bunch of good players - significant upgrade from last year.
5. Leeegeeeceee - added a bunch of players from 91 AA will be much improved.
Thoughts? Let's keep it factually and positive. Should be a fun year with this group.
What about Express B, 91 B and Igloo B? Any changes to those teams?
I think is all a zero sum gain. Every team added good players.
Outlawsbnoy evenbin the conversation, they didn't compete last year and only picked up one good player this year. Igloo, 9D1, express, legasee, igloo B, all way better than outlaws.
Daddy ball. They now have what they deserve.... nothing!
Who gives a crap... move on and learn how to spell. This conversation is not about the outlaws. Give it a rest already.
Please step away from the he bar and go home. Your wife and kids are are worried. You are slurring your words as you type.
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
If this is true you would hope the organization does the right thing and relinquishes these coaches of there position with the organization.
The top 6 teams in Long Island will stay top 6 with minimal changes. In Long Island, the top 6 teams are as follows:
AA (not in order)
- 9D1 AA
- Express AA
- Igloo AA
Outlaws Select somewhere between AA and A
- better than most A
A Team
- 9D1 B (2022A)
- Igloo B (probably also A team)
- Legacy AA
AA teams - are all great, any team can beat the other depending on weather, if a kid is missing, if coach decides to play his top talent and push the gas pedal, if coach wants to rotate more of their players, etc. This is a fact. Outlaws Select is right behind these teams and may be able to beat one of the AA teams if they get real lucky.
A Team
9D1 2022A soundly defeated all other teams, struggled against AA, lost to Outlaws Select while putting up a good game. Igloo A is also a solid team, should play 9D1 2022 for a good team. 9D1 and Igloo are the only teams that could hold any talent in their second teams. Outlaws, 9D1A and Igloo A will struggle because they can't compete with the top 3 AA teams, but are significantly better than other teams on Long Island. This year, Express is going to try a second team (and 3rd and 4th team), but other than their AA, too many teams and too much watering down of talent. Legacy showed up with a strong WSYL team, but that was different than their winter box top team.
If you are cracking on AA, you are just jealous.
If you are cracking on Outlaws - you are pretty sad because they are a great, solid team but are no where near AA.
If you are cracking on 9D1A and Igloo A - you just have not followed them throughout the season.
My son played 9D1A. Completely new team this year. Too few practices, we were promised more, but that is life. We are clearly second to the 9D1AA team. We could not complete at the AA level with one practice per week, no box program, only 1 head coach and 1 daddy coach at each game/tourney. Sometimes we only had 1 coach at scrimmages/tourneys. That was the most disappointing part of the year. We mostly destroyed teams from outside long island and other club teams on long island, so there was no competition there. It did not matter, our Coach kept us playing at the AA level and we got beaten up, but our kids learned and had positive attitudes.
We lost to Outlaws, close game but they clearly beat us. We had a very poor showing at WSYL because we took only our own kids, dropped the older kids and played by the rules. 9D1AA also took our highest scorer and he had the winning score for AA at WSYL. Also we did not have a box team, so we struggled in the beginning of Spring. Now the good - The parents were extremely nice, the kids were great to each other and overall had a great experience. My son learned a lot, got better and still wanted to play 9D1A. The 91 organization could have made it better and are trying to do so this coming year. Would like to see 9D1A play Igloo A and Outlaws more.
It is not about wins, losses, who is better, who is not. It is not about parents whining on these forums. I would rather hear more true stories like this so I understand what life is like on the other 2022 teams. If you notice, many other graduating years have supplemental tryouts because they don't have enough kids or talent. Our kids age group does not have supplemental tryouts because we have too many kids and too much talent at this age group. lets hear some real stories/experiences from parents on these top teams.
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
If this is true you would hope the organization does the right thing and relinquishes these coaches of there position with the organization.
Empire is a sinking ship that will NEVER reach the AA standard. They have mediocre coaching at best!
Empire Green..Any more info on this team. I had heard great things about the players and coaches. Are the a high "A" team?
It's easy to get on the empire green if your daddy knows the coach!
Empire Green..Any more info on this team. I had heard great things about the players and coaches. Are the a high "A" team?
Stop playing naive ! They are not an A team they are like the Outlaws B+ at best.
All the Long Island teams are good. It really boils down to:
- where/when the coach holds practices
- who the coach is
- what other kids are on the team with your son
- if your son is happy and wants to play for the team (vs if you want your son to play for the team)
Everyone else falls in just below those 7 (not 6) teams above. Empire A is still an A team, but clearly below those teams listed above. They are more like Hitmen A, TrueBlue A, Ducks A, etc. These are all great teams, definite separation from the top 3-4 above and the next 3.
All the Long Island teams are good. It really boils down to:
- where/when the coach holds practices
- who the coach is
- what other kids are on the team with your son
- if your son is happy and wants to play for the team (vs if you want your son to play for the team)
Everyone else falls in just below those 7 (not 6) teams above. Empire A is still an A team, but clearly below those teams listed above. They are more like Hitmen A, TrueBlue A, Ducks A, etc. These are all great teams, definite separation from the top 3-4 above and the next 3.
More like Igloo B, Express Schwalje, 9!A
There needs to be more teams in the tweener group. This now called single A group needs to grow. Because 9! campbell lost 14-1 to Channy, but can't play in B
Single A (not ranking, just grouping)
Igloo, clearly the best
9! Campbell, I guess now 9! A
Express Schwalije
FIGee
Empire Green
Question as far as these rankings of the A's not AA
I am hearing that fl$ lost 3 of their top 4 players, Igloo lost their #1 goalie, Empire Green lost at least 5 and Campbell lost its #1 Goalie. With those things being said does it bring the A group closer to teams like the Ducks top team, True Blue and Hitmen?
Question as far as these rankings of the A's not AA
I am hearing that fl$ lost 3 of their top 4 players, Igloo lost their #1 goalie, Empire Green lost at least 5 and Campbell lost its #1 Goalie. With those things being said does it bring the A group closer to teams like the Ducks top team, True Blue and Hitmen?
Newsflash >>> FLGee's top 6-7 players still with team. igloo B lost top 4 players. Facts, please, not fake news!!
It's easy to get on the empire green if your daddy knows the coach!
It's easy to get on the empire green if your daddy knows the coach!
Or if your daddy IS the coach! The empire green ship has sunk and just desserts is served!
The top 6 teams in Long Island will stay top 6 with minimal changes. In Long Island, the top 6 teams are as follows:
AA (not in order)
- 9D1 AA
- Express AA
- Igloo AA
Outlaws Select somewhere between AA and A
- better than most A
A Team
- 9D1 B (2022A)
- Igloo B (probably also A team)
- Legacy AA
AA teams - are all great, any team can beat the other depending on weather, if a kid is missing, if coach decides to play his top talent and push the gas pedal, if coach wants to rotate more of their players, etc. This is a fact. Outlaws Select is right behind these teams and may be able to beat one of the AA teams if they get real lucky.
A Team
9D1 2022A soundly defeated all other teams, struggled against AA, lost to Outlaws Select while putting up a good game. Igloo A is also a solid team, should play 9D1 2022 for a good team. 9D1 and Igloo are the only teams that could hold any talent in their second teams. Outlaws, 9D1A and Igloo A will struggle because they can't compete with the top 3 AA teams, but are significantly better than other teams on Long Island. This year, Express is going to try a second team (and 3rd and 4th team), but other than their AA, too many teams and too much watering down of talent. Legacy showed up with a strong WSYL team, but that was different than their winter box top team.
If you are cracking on AA, you are just jealous.
If you are cracking on Outlaws - you are pretty sad because they are a great, solid team but are no where near AA.
If you are cracking on 9D1A and Igloo A - you just have not followed them throughout the season.
My son played 9D1A. Completely new team this year. Too few practices, we were promised more, but that is life. We are clearly second to the 9D1AA team. We could not complete at the AA level with one practice per week, no box program, only 1 head coach and 1 daddy coach at each game/tourney. Sometimes we only had 1 coach at scrimmages/tourneys. That was the most disappointing part of the year. We mostly destroyed teams from outside long island and other club teams on long island, so there was no competition there. It did not matter, our Coach kept us playing at the AA level and we got beaten up, but our kids learned and had positive attitudes.
We lost to Outlaws, close game but they clearly beat us. We had a very poor showing at WSYL because we took only our own kids, dropped the older kids and played by the rules. 9D1AA also took our highest scorer and he had the winning score for AA at WSYL. Also we did not have a box team, so we struggled in the beginning of Spring. Now the good - The parents were extremely nice, the kids were great to each other and overall had a great experience. My son learned a lot, got better and still wanted to play 9D1A. The 91 organization could have made it better and are trying to do so this coming year. Would like to see 9D1A play Igloo A and Outlaws more.
It is not about wins, losses, who is better, who is not. It is not about parents whining on these forums. I would rather hear more true stories like this so I understand what life is like on the other 2022 teams. If you notice, many other graduating years have supplemental tryouts because they don't have enough kids or talent. Our kids age group does not have supplemental tryouts because we have too many kids and too much talent at this age group. lets hear some real stories/experiences from parents on these top teams.
Holy crap, what a waste of time...same old thing, igloo and express the best, 91 and lega-sea right below and then jump ball on the B teams and that's just LI. Outlaws, igloo B, and others are solid legit B team s
The top 6 teams in Long Island will stay top 6 with minimal changes. In Long Island, the top 6 teams are as follows:
AA (not in order)
- 9D1 AA
- Express AA
- Igloo AA
Outlaws Select somewhere between AA and A
- better than most A
A Team
- 9D1 B (2022A)
- Igloo B (probably also A team)
- Legacy AA
AA teams - are all great, any team can beat the other depending on weather, if a kid is missing, if coach decides to play his top talent and push the gas pedal, if coach wants to rotate more of their players, etc. This is a fact. Outlaws Select is right behind these teams and may be able to beat one of the AA teams if they get real lucky.
A Team
9D1 2022A soundly defeated all other teams, struggled against AA, lost to Outlaws Select while putting up a good game. Igloo A is also a solid team, should play 9D1 2022 for a good team. 9D1 and Igloo are the only teams that could hold any talent in their second teams. Outlaws, 9D1A and Igloo A will struggle because they can't compete with the top 3 AA teams, but are significantly better than other teams on Long Island. This year, Express is going to try a second team (and 3rd and 4th team), but other than their AA, too many teams and too much watering down of talent. Legacy showed up with a strong WSYL team, but that was different than their winter box top team.
If you are cracking on AA, you are just jealous.
If you are cracking on Outlaws - you are pretty sad because they are a great, solid team but are no where near AA.
If you are cracking on 9D1A and Igloo A - you just have not followed them throughout the season.
My son played 9D1A. Completely new team this year. Too few practices, we were promised more, but that is life. We are clearly second to the 9D1AA team. We could not complete at the AA level with one practice per week, no box program, only 1 head coach and 1 daddy coach at each game/tourney. Sometimes we only had 1 coach at scrimmages/tourneys. That was the most disappointing part of the year. We mostly destroyed teams from outside long island and other club teams on long island, so there was no competition there. It did not matter, our Coach kept us playing at the AA level and we got beaten up, but our kids learned and had positive attitudes.
We lost to Outlaws, close game but they clearly beat us. We had a very poor showing at WSYL because we took only our own kids, dropped the older kids and played by the rules. 9D1AA also took our highest scorer and he had the winning score for AA at WSYL. Also we did not have a box team, so we struggled in the beginning of Spring. Now the good - The parents were extremely nice, the kids were great to each other and overall had a great experience. My son learned a lot, got better and still wanted to play 9D1A. The 91 organization could have made it better and are trying to do so this coming year. Would like to see 9D1A play Igloo A and Outlaws more.
It is not about wins, losses, who is better, who is not. It is not about parents whining on these forums. I would rather hear more true stories like this so I understand what life is like on the other 2022 teams. If you notice, many other graduating years have supplemental tryouts because they don't have enough kids or talent. Our kids age group does not have supplemental tryouts because we have too many kids and too much talent at this age group. lets hear some real stories/experiences from parents on these top teams.
Holy crap, what a waste of time...same old thing, igloo and express the best, 91 and lega-sea right below and then jump ball on the B teams and that's just LI. Outlaws, igloo B, and others are solid legit B team s
Again, another one who thinks it goes right from AA to B! It's an absolutely rediculous perception!
Question as far as these rankings of the A's not AA
I am hearing that fl$ lost 3 of their top 4 players, Igloo lost their #1 goalie, Empire Green lost at least 5 and Campbell lost its #1 Goalie. With those things being said does it bring the A group closer to teams like the Ducks top team, True Blue and Hitmen?
Newsflash >>> FLGee's top 6-7 players still with team. igloo B lost top 4 players. Facts, please, not fake news!!
All Fake News. Winky has brought in some good kids to replace the few that left. So did Igloo B. Neither lost their best four kids - sorry "leaving for a new team" dads.
The reality is that after the top five, you have Campbell, Igloo B, maybe Express Schwalje, maybe a few others who will all play in AA tournaments and will do well to hover around .500 for the year and their kids will all get better. And next year, you'll all be back here trashing every team on LI.
LegaCy was awful last year. Coach barely showed up. Didn't care. We were killed by express and igloo. Lost 3x to outlaws. Last one 7-1 in an embarrassment. After that the head coach tuned out. Stop lumping them with the top teams. And yes, my son has moved on. Never again.
91A last season was a terrible team and if they took back most of the kids from last season they will be the same garbage team. Coaching was bad. They will not be able to compete with any of the top teams much like Empire green.
Empire Green is on the low end of the A bracket. 9D1A is clearly in the upper end of A. Questionable Igloo B vs 9D1A. Both teams did not play each other and that was a shame. Parents wanted that game. 9D1A coach did not avoid playing Igloo B, but did not go out of way to play Igloo B. Outlaws Select is either bottom of AA or top of A. I could sit here and say 9D1A played Empire Green in Fall last year and soundly beat them, but one time beating a team does not meet they are better. I see parents on these posts saying this team won this one game back in 2016 so they are better. That is ridiculous. But your statement here clearly shows you are a bitter Empire Green player. Some really good talent from Empire Green left and went to 9D1 last season. The best player from Empire Green went to 9D1A last season, then moved to 9D1AA this coming year. Get over it. Kids move teams. Two years later.
Why call 9D1A terrible, then say Empire Green is better when they lost to 9D1 in 1 game, other than bitterness.
Was that the Legacy top team or second team?
Empire is increasing their fee up by $928 for the boys and $550 for the girls. Last year, Empire had 16 boys’ teams from 3rd-Varsity. Multiply 16 X 20 players per team X $928 = $296,960
3 girls’ teams $550 X 60 players total = $33,000
For any non-math majors, that’s a $329,960 increase, not including the younger groups.
Was that the Legacy top team or second team?
STOP playing dumb to to website and you will see the names of the teams and your kids jersey number is not there!
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Empire will have no chance this year. Lost two incredible defensive players, and top scoring middie
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
What about Empire Green? What's that team all about this year?
Is that a true question ? Imploded lost top players
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
Did the players leave because of the coach who was from another organization before Empire?
It's easy to get on the empire green if your daddy knows the coach!
It's easy to get on the empire green if your daddy knows the coach!
Or if your daddy IS the coach! The empire green ship has sunk and just desserts is served!
Are we talking about the 2022 team?
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
"This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap"
Yeah, just bend over and let them pull another $1000 out of you. No problem.
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Valid points, but considering how much quality lax there is on LI and the number of clubs, you've hit upon opportunities for existing and new clubs - there are pockets of locales where if you offered a quality option, you could cater to a whole swath of players that are currently driving all over God's creation to play club. I get that field space is limited and hard to come by, but it would seem to me that this is a rare business where where the owners expect everyone to come to them as opposed to possibly looking at where their customers are and looking for options to bring that product closer to their customers.
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
Town team travel is not available to most locales . . .
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
You are delusional ! We all settle for a product that under delivers. I have seen plenty of kids that "play" for a top team and they still have not gotten any better since they were younger. They still have the same bad habits like hanging the stick, or not knowing where they should be. Its pretty pathetic that we all pay thousands for a sport that will never make any money for out kids !
Empire 2022 Green- yes. Heard three kids left for better teams.
Heard nothing about coaching.
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
Town team travel is not available to most locales . . .
I have seen at tourneys this past season GC34, Eagle Elite, Sachem Rising, Three Village, Smithtown, Vikings, RVC Futures, etc. It's becoming more and more available. I am of the opinion, sometimes these are good options if your son is not on the A team. If it run correctly, it works. If it's half baked and the coaches would rather be at the beach than coaching, it's a waste.
Empire 2022 Green- yes. Heard three kids left for better teams.
Heard nothing about coaching.
At least 5 starters left Empire Green for greener pastures. Thats a big hit to take for any team, hope all fair well.
Successful Towns Like WM, Smithtown, GC, CSH, WI to name a few have solid lacrosse infrastructure and consistently put out strong players. Also despite losing solid players to teams like SA and Chaminade they still remain highly competitive. Club has it's place but is not as relevant for these Towns especially given new college commitment rules. However not all towns have this so CLUB is good option. Bottom line Lacrosse is a great sport the more that play the better for the GAME.
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
Town team travel is not available to most locales . . .
I have seen at tourneys this past season GC34, Eagle Elite, Sachem Rising, Three Village, Smithtown, Vikings, RVC Futures, etc. It's becoming more and more available. I am of the opinion, sometimes these are good options if your son is not on the A team. If it run correctly, it works. If it's half baked and the coaches would rather be at the beach than coaching, it's a waste.
You've listed ~7 town teams - there are 125 school districts on LI!
Enough with the fees, it's a business, you have choices. This is club lax and you shouldn't do it by what is convenient or cheap or who can carpool. Otherwise, stay with the local town club teams they are great options and a lot are as good as a B team at a club. At least it's close and you're playing with kids you know and potential coaches down the road. But if you want club, seek out the best team your son can make and travel to that location to practice. You mind fees and the extra travel to practice if it's worth it.
Spoken from someone who's kid did not get any better writing checks to club teams. You do it so you can have the status of saying your kid plays for XYZ lacrosse. That make you a fool my friend !
Nope, I travel 40 minutes to practice. Because it's the best team he made with the best coaching. I was giving advice because often people choose convenience. I understand that it's hard to juggle travel and a full schedule. I am simply saying don't settle for a product the under delivers because it's close to home. And if you cant travel, stay with a town travel hybrid.
Town team travel is not available to most locales . . .
I have seen at tourneys this past season GC34, Eagle Elite, Sachem Rising, Three Village, Smithtown, Vikings, RVC Futures, etc. It's becoming more and more available. I am of the opinion, sometimes these are good options if your son is not on the A team. If it run correctly, it works. If it's half baked and the coaches would rather be at the beach than coaching, it's a waste.
You've listed ~7 town teams - there are 125 school districts on LI!
I said teams I saw. And I was just making a point that you in my opinion you shouldn't make a decision solely based on convenience. However, I know it's not that simple. A lot factors weigh into these decisions. If a good town club program exists, it's a good option vs a B team. Further, if a better option exists but is too far, it's worth thinking that through based on what you want from a club experience. I think of all time and money we all invest in this, if I have to drive 30 extra minutes for the best situation, it's worth it. Now I am driving to Westchester, no. But a trip cross county lines is not a big deal.
Empire 2022 Green- yes. Heard three kids left for better teams.
Heard nothing about coaching.
At least 5 starters left Empire Green for greener pastures. Thats a big hit to take for any team, hope all fair well.
Empire 2022 Green- yes. Heard three kids left for better teams.
Heard nothing about coaching.
At least 5 starters left Empire Green for greener pastures. Thats a big hit to take for any team, hope all fair well.
Pathetic daddy ball and practices are a joke.
I was told FL$ lost 3 of its top 4 middies- 2 to Express and 1 to another team. If I was wrong , I am sorry but why the nasty replies. Can people just answer questions on this forum without nasty juvenile replies.
So neither Schwajle or Chucks rosters are final, not a game played but Schwajle is the better team?? NO ONE knows what teams are going to be good this year in AA, A or B! The Channy team is the Channy team but after that, it's a toss up!
So neither Schwajle or Chucks rosters are final, not a game played but Schwajle is the better team?? NO ONE knows what teams are going to be good this year in AA, A or B! The Channy team is the Channy team but after that, it's a toss up!
How would you have any insight to the rosters. And Schwaljle is supposed to be the better team. But who knows until they play the games.
So neither Schwajle or Chucks rosters are final, not a game played but Schwajle is the better team?? NO ONE knows what teams are going to be good this year in AA, A or B! The Channy team is the Channy team but after that, it's a toss up!
How would you have any insight to the rosters. And Schwaljle is supposed to be the better team. But who knows until they play the games.
Well said.. Just let them play.. stop with the pre-season predictions
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
I'm an express parent(chucks) and you sir are unhinged! What kind of savage says 13 years olds suck! No one knows how are any of the teams will play, until we play! We took a chance this year with our sons team and we will let it play out. If he personally gets better, it will be great! That's what all of us looking for, to see our boys grow, develop and enjoy the game! We get to ride with them and see some great games and hopefully meet some nice, DECENT people along the way too!
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaw troll has such a sad life. You look foolish. It's time for you to get a life. You're like a crazy bitter ex-girlfriend. Sad
Almost got it right Igloo number one Express number two the rest could all line up behind those two teams
Almost got it right Igloo number one Express number two the rest could all line up behind those two teams
point please ?
91 is the team to beat this year. JR in the house. Express and igloo can take a back seat baby!!!
91 is the team to beat this year. JR in the house. Express and igloo can take a back seat baby!!!
9D1 parents desperate to put LY behind them. Keep licking those wounds, the sun has set on 9D1 at this age group. It was a great run for them.
Just show up at the Tri Star October Fest. It will be the best the tourney to play in this fall. Moving the date should spark the interest of out state teams. Will probably have greatest depth for A & B and nice finale to fall.
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
What about Empire Green? What's that team all about this year?
Is that a true question ? Imploded lost top players
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
Did the players leave because of the coach who was from another organization before Empire?
From what has been said from parents of players on that team, YES.
What about Empire Green? What's that team all about this year?
Is that a true question ? Imploded lost top players
word is they lost a lot more then top players. Hearing 15 kids gone.
Did the players leave because of the coach who was from another organization before Empire?
YES
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
FAKE NEWS
Empire 2022 Green- yes. Heard three kids left for better teams.
Heard nothing about coaching.
Well more than three kids left Empire Green! Many of them left for good reasons most stemming from the coaching ....
Just show up at the Tri Star October Fest. It will be the best the tourney to play in this fall. Moving the date should spark the interest of out state teams. Will probably have greatest depth for A & B and nice finale to fall.
Isn't that scheduled for the same day the 2022's who are interested take the CHSEE?
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Then you suck for hiring a varsity coach and losing many other coaches. Keep the terrible self promotion to get your $2,500 from suckerzzzz.
Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
[quote=Anonymous]Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
I am so sick of this Outlaw basher... my sons play in the Express organization and I come on here to hear about things other than Outlaws. I am sure they will be improved like many teams. But this guy is unbelievable. Give it a rest already.
[quote=Anonymous]Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
I am so sick of this Outlaw basher... my sons play in the Express organization and I come on here to hear about things other than Outlaws. I am sure they will be improved like many teams. But this guy is unbelievable. Give it a rest already.
[quote=Anonymous]Outlaws suck, the player they picked up is very good. But they are the least improved team of the year. Express, igloo, 91, legacee, igloo B, express b, outlaws, in that order and that's just LI. Another 7-10 teams better than outlaws in the Tri-state, pa and md.
Some people on this planet are just plain miserable in life ... this board has been quiet... so you come on and [lacrosse] on a topic that you know nothing about. Seek therapy!
Outlaws will be just fine
Will they be fine? They just lost a bunch of coaches, and so called management for player development. Massive annual turnover.
FAKE NEWS
Your right they lost the Port Guy that never showed up
That's good news
Outlaws Are a Very good team. Will compete and play anyone
Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
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Ahhh the return of the "Why Play Up" Guy... predictable guy!
Bitter Outlaw troll. Just ignore him.
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Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
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What is a a fiat fight?!
Ha ha, the outlaws will play anyone guy, the outlaws don't back down to nobody guy...at what point is it about the kids? This isn't a fiat fight behind a 7-11, let the kids play other B teams, go 50/50 and have a fun year. Why play up into A divisions and continually lose?
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What is a a fiat fight?![/quote]
OUTLAW DEEZ NUTS!!!!
I'm sure this simple question will turn into a [lacrosse] show but what are folks thoughts on the Elite 80 thing Igloo is doing? I am not a New Yorker so just trying to get info on this event .
My son attended the Elite 80 last year. It was very organized, all D1 coaches advertised to appeare were there. The coaches were very into it and engaging. A lot of touches - drills, skill work, and scrimmages. Competition was good. Facilities were nice - easy to get to. For an 8th grader not sure what else you would want to consider.
One may argue competition was not great - are people traveling from the West coast and Mid Atlantic. He may see some - but for the most part you will get Tri-State kids and a few Northeast. But that should not effect you.
My son was there last year one of the best lacrosse experiences your son will ever experience. Where else will he ever be able to be on the field with All those coaches. great Day
I'm sure this simple question will turn into a [lacrosse] show but what are folks thoughts on the Elite 80 thing Igloo is doing? I am not a New Yorker so just trying to get info on this event .
Is this AA posting himself??????????
I'm sure this simple question will turn into a [lacrosse] show but what are folks thoughts on the Elite 80 thing Igloo is doing? I am not a New Yorker so just trying to get info on this event .
Is this AA posting himself??????????
Nope. I have 2 son's and we are in Maryland. My son's have played against the 91s, Express, Igloo's etc. If it is a glorified rec situation, not sure we would come up for a day thing but if they get kids from the various LI teams, it will be worth it
I'm sure this simple question will turn into a [lacrosse] show but what are folks thoughts on the Elite 80 thing Igloo is doing? I am not a New Yorker so just trying to get info on this event .
Is this AA posting himself??????????
Nope. I have 2 son's and we are in Maryland. My son's have played against the 91s, Express, Igloo's etc. If it is a glorified rec situation, not sure we would come up for a day thing but if they get kids from the various LI teams, it will be worth it
Great experience for your son's long as weather is good its a no brainier
last year was an awesome experience. Agreed, as long as weather cooperates.
Coaches were all into it from start to finish.
The big question is how much?
Practice starts this weekend. All the talk of adds, talent, departures, etc will come to an end. You'll see a lot of the same first liners and same talent level. One or two exceptions, but that's the max. And the top teams will all play each other very competitively.
Practice starts this weekend. All the talk of adds, talent, departures, etc will come to an end. You'll see a lot of the same first liners and same talent level. One or two exceptions, but that's the max. And the top teams will all play each other very competitively.
Practices start this weekend?? We've been practicing for 3 wks already . . .
Practice starts this weekend. All the talk of adds, talent, departures, etc will come to an end. You'll see a lot of the same first liners and same talent level. One or two exceptions, but that's the max. And the top teams will all play each other very competitively.
Practices start this weekend?? We've been practicing for 3 wks already . . .
That's great. I enjoyed the last few weeks of summer. And loved not having to leave the beach, pool, etc to make practice. To each his own.
Practice starts this weekend. All the talk of adds, talent, departures, etc will come to an end. You'll see a lot of the same first liners and same talent level. One or two exceptions, but that's the max. And the top teams will all play each other very competitively.
Practices start this weekend?? We've been practicing for 3 wks already . . .
That's great. I enjoyed the last few weeks of summer. And loved not having to leave the beach, pool, etc to make practice. To each his own.
You too. I am sure I saw you at the beach enjoying the last few weeks of the summer. I can't believe I didn't stick around for a few weeks of lacrosse practice. All I am going to have now is memories of traveling with my kids for 2 weeks when I could have stayed local for a few hours of lacrosse practice in August for a sport that is played in the Spring and next summer. Oh well, maybe next summer.
Practice starts this weekend. All the talk of adds, talent, departures, etc will come to an end. You'll see a lot of the same first liners and same talent level. One or two exceptions, but that's the max. And the top teams will all play each other very competitively.
Practices start this weekend?? We've been practicing for 3 wks already . . .
That's great. I enjoyed the last few weeks of summer. And loved not having to leave the beach, pool, etc to make practice. To each his own.
Football practice started August 1st, so lacrosse had exactly zero to do with anything in terms of summer schedule...
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
Really, you must be from MD because it is not worth the travel. Firstly, it's football and soccer season for middle school secondly, travel to MD to play 9th and 10th graders.
Enough already!
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
Really, you must be from MD because it is not worth the travel. Firstly, it's football and soccer season for middle school secondly, travel to MD to play 9th and 10th graders.
Enough already!
And yet Express and Igloo both went last year and did well. I'm sure they'll both go back again.
Are any teams signed up for the 9D1 Fall Elite Face Off on October 7?
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
Really, you must be from MD because it is not worth the travel. Firstly, it's football and soccer season for middle school secondly, travel to MD to play 9th and 10th graders.
Enough already!
And yet Express and Igloo both went last year and did well. I'm sure they'll both go back again.
Are any teams signed up for the 9D1 Fall Elite Face Off on October 7?
Sweetlax, TX Mustangs, Dukes Nationals, Richmond Greyhounds, and Leading Edge all made the trip last year in addition to the locals (Hawks, BLC/ DC express, Madlax, Next Level, Koopers)
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
Really, you must be from MD because it is not worth the travel. Firstly, it's football and soccer season for middle school secondly, travel to MD to play 9th and 10th graders.
Enough already!
And yet Express and Igloo both went last year and did well. I'm sure they'll both go back again.
Are any teams signed up for the 9D1 Fall Elite Face Off on October 7?
I could be wrong, but I have never seen a Maryland team come up to a fall LI tourney. Million brought his Maryland Stars team up for a playday, that's all I recall. They swept Express, Smash and United during that trip. Hence, make those teams come here, no reason to leave the tristate in the fall.
What fall tournaments will everyone play in?
Battle on the Bay in MD looks to be the top Fall tourney again. I wish they had a website and it wasn't just some tournament Toomey ran on the back of a napkin.
Really, you must be from MD because it is not worth the travel. Firstly, it's football and soccer season for middle school secondly, travel to MD to play 9th and 10th graders.
Enough already!
And yet Express and Igloo both went last year and did well. I'm sure they'll both go back again.
Are any teams signed up for the 9D1 Fall Elite Face Off on October 7?
I could be wrong, but I have never seen a Maryland team come up to a fall LI tourney. Million brought his Maryland Stars team up for a playday, that's all I recall. They swept Express, Smash and United during that trip. Hence, make those teams come here, no reason to leave the tristate in the fall.
Plenty of tourneys in MD as well. No reason to leave MD.
I'm sure this simple question will turn into a [lacrosse] show but what are folks thoughts on the Elite 80 thing Igloo is doing? I am not a New Yorker so just trying to get info on this event .
Is this AA posting himself??????????
Another money grab by another program that claims its all about the kids. If your kid wants to experience it, that's all you. Just see it for what it is. Mo money.
The big question is how much?
$400+
Gotta contribute to what these college coaches are being paid
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Yes igloo folded their 2022 team, they figured why have the best or second best team in the country let's fold it and just have a B team. Moron
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Yes igloo folded their 2022 team, they figured why have the best or second best team in the country let's fold it and just have a B team. Moron
At least they are getting better coaching at Dukes.by far the best 2022 team in the country
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Yes igloo folded their 2022 team, they figured why have the best or second best team in the country let's fold it and just have a B team. Moron
At least they are getting better coaching at Dukes.by far the best 2022 team in the country
Thanks Gonzo for the update.
LOL, Dukes, it's a handpicked All-Star team they should be the best. It's not like they practice and send 10 months together. But since you're flexing. I will say, based on an eye test Express got better, believe it. A their 2nd and 3rd teams will become A teams as the season progresses.
Nice try. 9D1 has improved and will be very difficult to beat.
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Um, no, three igloo kids have been a part of dukes for many years. Find something else to do instead of pot stirring
Nice try. 9D1 has improved and will be very difficult to beat.
Yawn. Zzzz
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Moron
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Yes igloo folded their 2022 team, they figured why have the best or second best team in the country let's fold it and just have a B team. Moron
At least they are getting better coaching at Dukes.by far the best 2022 team in the country
Dukes is an Allstar squad. NY Warrior team is better
Great idea have gonzo contact Channy and lacasio they co coached the long island warrior team set up game between dukes and 2022 warrior team by far best talent on long island is on that team.
Great idea have gonzo contact Channy and lacasio they co coached the long island warrior team set up game between dukes and 2022 warrior team by far best talent on long island is on that team.
Good luck with that happening
Lots of ilgoo kids at Dukes National tryouts did igloo fold their 2022 team?
Yes igloo folded their 2022 team, they figured why have the best or second best team in the country let's fold it and just have a B team. Moron
At least they are getting better coaching at Dukes.by far the best 2022 team in the country
Now thats funny! Best team in the country? Winning a game or 2 at the end of 10 month grind for all other teams. Lets not forget that if any players from other top teams from MD,NY,PA decide to try out for Dukes the bulk of that team will be gone -- Better yet, keep the same team and the TOP players from other squads get together and see who comes out on top.
Maverick Showtime invites are out for the upper grades. Anybody hear from this class? Still the best event (imho). 2022s have their own date. The 2020s & 2021s are a few days before.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Did you think Channy was gonna set his kid up for failure? No way ! So now all the other parents will be up in arms that "little Johnny" is not on the best team !
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Channy Sr. & Lynott Sr. were coaching the Chucks. They also added practices so we shall see. I'm sure he will move kids between teams, only Channy knows!
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Channy Sr. & Lynott Sr. were coaching the Chucks. They also added practices so we shall see. I'm sure he will move kids between teams, only Channy knows!
Way to stir it up. Chucks practices on Saturday and the rest of the 2022s practice on Sunday. Not sure what you saw, unless you went to watch a practice because you were bored. Both are decent teams, enjoy the season
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Channy Sr. & Lynott Sr. were coaching the Chucks. They also added practices so we shall see. I'm sure he will move kids between teams, only Channy knows!
Way to stir it up. Chucks practices on Saturday and the rest of the 2022s practice on Sunday. Not sure what you saw, unless you went to watch a practice because you were bored. Both are decent teams, enjoy the season
2022 Channy (Denver) practiced Saturday before Chucks.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Channy Sr. & Lynott Sr. were coaching the Chucks. They also added practices so we shall see. I'm sure he will move kids between teams, only Channy knows!
Way to stir it up. Chucks practices on Saturday and the rest of the 2022s practice on Sunday. Not sure what you saw, unless you went to watch a practice because you were bored. Both are decent teams, enjoy the season
2022 Channy (Denver) practiced Saturday before Chucks.
smh...
The other 2022 teams practiced on Sunday. Still wondering the real order. Did anyone really see the schwajle team? Are they really the second team? Reality is the Chucks team is B. It's made up of a bunch of kids who were on Express O'reilly last year and new kids from Bluefish, Outlaws B, and a few other Bs. There was an Igloo helmet too. Assume he was cut from Igloo B (which is a decent team), but he was cut. So maybe it's B+...
The Denver team ONLY practiced on Sunday.
The other 2022 teams practiced on Sunday. Still wondering the real order. Did anyone really see the schwajle team? Are they really the second team? Reality is the Chucks team is B. It's made up of a bunch of kids who were on Express O'reilly last year and new kids from Bluefish, Outlaws B, and a few other Bs. There was an Igloo helmet too. Assume he was cut from Igloo B (which is a decent team), but he was cut. So maybe it's B+...
Done with that subject. We spent pages on it after the tryouts. I would list them, but somebody will just challenge it. How about it's Channy and everybody else.
Who cares???? People worry about your own teams!!! Move along!
Maverick Showtime invites are out for the upper grades. Anybody hear from this class? Still the best event (imho). 2022s have their own date. The 2020s & 2021s are a few days before.
Anyone know how that process works? Is it based on coaches nominating kids?
Club and High School coaches nominate then they decide how many slots to allot each club/highschool and what positions need to be filled. This is the only case where playing on the BEST club team in the age group means something because that team will get more slots.
Club and High School coaches nominate then they decide how many slots to allot each club/highschool and what positions need to be filled. This is the only case where playing on the BEST club team in the age group means something because that team will get more slots.
That's why you pay to play with the larger clubs like Express, Leggy and 9!.
Club and High School coaches nominate then they decide how many slots to allot each club/highschool and what positions need to be filled. This is the only case where playing on the BEST club team in the age group means something because that team will get more slots.
That's why you pay to play with the larger clubs like Express, Leggy and 9!.
= helping buy your way onto a team
Club and High School coaches nominate then they decide how many slots to allot each club/highschool and what positions need to be filled. This is the only case where playing on the BEST club team in the age group means something because that team will get more slots.
That's why you pay to play with the larger clubs like Express, Leggy and 9!.
= helping buy your way onto a team
Not really. But if a club has better relatiionships and better ties, I'd rather be there. As long as my kid plays, that's most important to me.
So what is the latest scoop on some of the B-, I mean A teams out there like True Boo, Hitmen, Legacy and Outlaws?
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
So what is the latest scoop on some of the B-, I mean A teams out there like True Boo, Hitmen, Legacy and Outlaws?
Who knows. My guess is between Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, we will know. Nobody decent seems to play in the Havoc anymore.
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
Can someone from each of these teams share with the rest of us which fall tournaments each one is playing? None of them (other than LegaCCCC) has updated their website yet.
And LegaCCCC lists the Columbus Day Invitational, Blatant, Octoberfest and some NAFLI Invitational in Delaware.
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
Can someone from each of these teams share with the rest of us which fall tournaments each one is playing? None of them (other than LegaCCCC) has updated their website yet.
And LegaCCCC lists the Columbus Day Invitational, Blatant, Octoberfest and some NAFLI Invitational in Delaware.
Express Single A - Columbus Day, Blatant, Octoberfest
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Did you think Channy was gonna set his kid up for failure? No way ! So now all the other parents will be up in arms that "little Johnny" is not on the best team !
I have heard people say that they are very happy so far with the team and coaching.
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
Can someone from each of these teams share with the rest of us which fall tournaments each one is playing? None of them (other than LegaCCCC) has updated their website yet.
And LegaCCCC lists the Columbus Day Invitational, Blatant, Octoberfest and some NAFLI Invitational in Delaware.
Express Single A - Columbus Day, Blatant, Octoberfest
Is that Chuck or Schwalje?
That list is a joke right? This has to be legacy parents trying to make themselves relevant. There's a reason why those 9d1 kids came over-they never saw the field. Fall ball means nothing anyway.
I am going to have to disagree with you saying that Fall Ball is meaningless. Maybe you can argue that at the youth level but from a college recruiting perspective, especially for the HS graduates aspiring to play collegiately, the Fall is very important and is their chance to get exposure. And besides the recruiting aspect of things, Fall Ball is a great way to enhance your skills and get prepared for the 'official' lax season and then for the summer tournament circuit.... Same reason why there is Fall Ball in college.
I am going to have to disagree with you saying that Fall Ball is meaningless. Maybe you can argue that at the youth level but from a college recruiting perspective, especially for the HS graduates aspiring to play collegiately, the Fall is very important and is their chance to get exposure. And besides the recruiting aspect of things, Fall Ball is a great way to enhance your skills and get prepared for the 'official' lax season and then for the summer tournament circuit.... Same reason why there is Fall Ball in college.
OK....almost meaningless.
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
Let them play first. There has been significant amount of players who jumped to other clubs. More than normal in my opinion.
These are probably the top teams but no way you can predict the order in September.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Did you think Channy was gonna set his kid up for failure? No way ! So now all the other parents will be up in arms that "little Johnny" is not on the best team !
I have heard people say that they are very happy so far with the team and coaching.
So far so good......with more practices than advertised!
This is an 8th grade forum. Doesn't mean much to 8th graders. But yrs you are 100% correct about the older kids.
Anyone disagree with the following top 7 teams in order...
Igloo
Express
9D1
Legasee
Express B
Igloo B
Outlaws
You are the definition of a troublemaker! Let them begin to play the games and then we will see. A lot of movement of players give them a chance to play first.
Let them play first. There has been significant amount of players who jumped to other clubs. More than normal in my opinion.
These are probably the top teams but no way you can predict the order in September.
Nice list Mr. Pen-go-in. Are your boys going to actually play the rest of us this year or are you going to continue to enter tournaments that nobody has heard of and then bring in guest players when it counts? Watch out, there's a new sheriff in town and he won't stand for those shenanigans that you're used to pulling.
I am going to have to disagree with you saying that Fall Ball is meaningless. Maybe you can argue that at the youth level but from a college recruiting perspective, especially for the HS graduates aspiring to play collegiately, the Fall is very important and is their chance to get exposure. And besides the recruiting aspect of things, Fall Ball is a great way to enhance your skills and get prepared for the 'official' lax season and then for the summer tournament circuit.... Same reason why there is Fall Ball in college.
It's only meaningless if your son's team wins or loses 10-1. If it's solid competition and the kids are playing at a high level, I think that is worth it.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Channy Sr. & Lynott Sr. were coaching the Chucks. They also added practices so we shall see. I'm sure he will move kids between teams, only Channy knows!
Doubt there will be any movement. The AA team had 12 poles and 35 kids at practice the other day. They can form another A team by splitting themselves up.
Unless your kid is on the first two lines it would be a waste of time playing on that team! 10,000 to ride the bench, I don't think so!
Chucks picked up a few kids who did not play much on 91A and 91 Academy (Development Team), Outlaws B, and Legacee. Unless Channy drops AA players onto that team, they will struggle to even be on this list.
Top Teams (In any order)
Igloo AA
Express AA
91AA
Next Teams (In any order)
Outlaws A
91A
Igloo A
ExpressA (depending on who Channy drops onto this team)
LegaceeA (maybe)
All others. Outlaws wanna be AA, but they are clearly a top A team. IglooA and 91A are close to AA, some kids could make those teams, but they are not there yet. ExpressA - Who knows? Do they have 3 teams? 4 teams? Huge money grab. Everyone wanted to join after his WSYL win, but he is not adding to his AA because AA is all he focuses on.
Express 2022 has 4 teams.
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Why would anyone want to play for the Chuck team? Now you have Channy and Lynott coaching so everyone pays. They will leave and the 2 kids will take over till their season starts. Then Joe K will take over.
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
You heard incorrectly. Can you define money grab? We have a coach with over 20 years experience and we are practicing twice a week and playing in 3 tourneys. I think that's the same as some and more than most.
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
It's the LI E Way! A fool and his money are soon parted!
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Ha ha, kidding right? Express is great, if your kid makes the A team the he is exceptional, if he makes the B team he is great. If your son is on the next two teams then he should be looking at a different sport. Just sayin
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Why would anyone want to play for the Chuck team? Now you have Channy and Lynott coaching so everyone pays. They will leave and the 2 kids will take over till their season starts. Then Joe K will take over.
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Why would anyone want to play for the Chuck team? Now you have Channy and Lynott coaching so everyone pays. They will leave and the 2 kids will take over till their season starts. Then Joe K will take over.
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Why would anyone want to play for the Chuck team? Now you have Channy and Lynott coaching so everyone pays. They will leave and the 2 kids will take over till their season starts. Then Joe K will take over.
Well, K is in the wind and kid is not on the roster.
Both teams practiced last night on the same same field. Very clear where the Chucks stand in pecking order. Keep believing what you want.
Keep stirring the pot.....
Channy AA
Schwalje A
Chuck B+
OReilly B
Why would anyone want to play for the Chuck team? Now you have Channy and Lynott coaching so everyone pays. They will leave and the 2 kids will take over till their season starts. Then Joe K will take over.
So what team does your son play for? Saw the Chucks team practicing last night and they looked pretty darn good. They have some really good players on that team.
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab ! [/quote]
What club isn't a money grab?
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
[/quote]
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . .
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . . [/quote]
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . .
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
[/quote]
You keep telling yourself that - my kids have never had a daddy coach, and there was never kids who couldn't catch and throw. Personally, during the fall I only want a practice every other week and I don't want any fall tourneys - my boys are playing football 5+ days a week! During the winter, they'll do winter workouts with their lax team 1x per wk for 10 wks, but they're playing basketball and wrestling. Again, I don't want spring tourneys as they play school ball already 5x per wk and they are practicing at least every other wk with club until May. But you keep ramming that down your kids' throats. Sometime less is more!
No chuck team last night only 2022 channy and schwalje and younger team kids were small prob 23s not AJ team
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . .
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
You keep telling yourself that - my kids have never had a daddy coach, and there was never kids who couldn't catch and throw. Personally, during the fall I only want a practice every other week and I don't want any fall tourneys - my boys are playing football 5+ days a week! During the winter, they'll do winter workouts with their lax team 1x per wk for 10 wks, but they're playing basketball and wrestling. Again, I don't want spring tourneys as they play school ball already 5x per wk and they are practicing at least every other wk with club until May. But you keep ramming that down your kids' throats. Sometime less is more![/quote]
You've got your kids playing football 5 times a week?!?!? You can stop talking now, no interest in anything you have to say. Apparently you're still living in 1985. Maybe you haven't heard by now that football has a direct correlation with serious brain trauma. Anyone who would allow their child to participate in that brutal sport might as well keep all of their opinions to themselves as they are totally worthless. You should read the BU study immediately.
No chuck team last night only 2022 channy and schwalje and younger team kids were small prob 23s not AJ team
Wrong! All three were out there. That 10000% accurate.
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . . [/quote]
Well it's why some people purchase a Toyota and some purchase a Lexus. I drive a Toyota, point is the consumer can buy what he or she wants to buy. The point I'll agree with is roster size. 8 mids, 6 poles, 6 attack is ideal for club, in my opinion.
No chuck team last night only 2022 channy and schwalje and younger team kids were small prob 23s not AJ team
Sorry, you must have mixed up Channy with Chucks! That should tell you where Schwalje team stands. Channy split his time with his teams.
i watched for a bit. Channy WSYL team kids can play. If that was the Chucks team you should run away. They are small and could not catch and throw. Schwalje team looked good w/ stick skills etc...My son practiced before them and hung around for a bit while he hung with some friends chatting..Please stop with this Chuck team..HE will NEVER be there..Great Channy was there..Doesnt mean a thing..You just wasted ur money on that team..Truth hurts
i watched for a bit. Channy WSYL team kids can play. If that was the Chucks team you should run away. They are small and could not catch and throw. Schwalje team looked good w/ stick skills etc...My son practiced before them and hung around for a bit while he hung with some friends chatting..Please stop with this Chuck team..HE will NEVER be there..Great Channy was there..Doesnt mean a thing..You just wasted ur money on that team..Truth hurts
So funny, Channy has not missed one practice yet but you are correct about one thing..... Schwalje's team is shockingly small less 2 kids. The truth does hurt my friend
channy wont miss a practicew where is CHUCK? Oh thats right he will never be there...No skin in the game but you are being taken for a ride dude...Get off while u can. The two other teams besides Channy and Schwalje 2022s were small and could not really catch and throw..Like i said semmed like 23s
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . .
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
You keep telling yourself that - my kids have never had a daddy coach, and there was never kids who couldn't catch and throw. Personally, during the fall I only want a practice every other week and I don't want any fall tourneys - my boys are playing football 5+ days a week! During the winter, they'll do winter workouts with their lax team 1x per wk for 10 wks, but they're playing basketball and wrestling. Again, I don't want spring tourneys as they play school ball already 5x per wk and they are practicing at least every other wk with club until May. But you keep ramming that down your kids' throats. Sometime less is more!
You've got your kids playing football 5 times a week?!?!? You can stop talking now, no interest in anything you have to say. Apparently you're still living in 1985. Maybe you haven't heard by now that football has a direct correlation with serious brain trauma. Anyone who would allow their child to participate in that brutal sport might as well keep all of their opinions to themselves as they are totally worthless. You should read the BU study immediately.[/quote]
In case you've been living under a rock, ALL MS and HS sports teams practice or play games 5 - 6 times a wk. You either play a play a school sport or you don't - football, like every other sport in MS is M- F. You can choose to not have your son play, but critiquing all the parents of the ~3M US youth football players as having no basis to speak is probably not going to get YOU much respect. And perhaps you probably haven't noticed the fairly large overlap of football and lacrosse players, so you are basically alienating a MAJORITY of people on this board with your 'assessment'. Thus, you end up on the short end of that basis for your argument; based upon THAT, most would think YOU, not me, should keep your opinions to yourself. And, having played football all the way through the NCAA level, as well as coaching football and lacrosse at the youth level, I've got more to offer on this topic than your casual, at-a-distance reading about it. Lastly, I've already read the study, and this is an 8th grade board - the BU study particularly focuses on the effects of playing before the age of 12 - what age are typical eighth graders in NY??
I heard they are only doing 3 teams and they will have approx. 28 kids per team. NO THANKS! What a money grab !
What club isn't a money grab?
The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . .
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
You keep telling yourself that - my kids have never had a daddy coach, and there was never kids who couldn't catch and throw. Personally, during the fall I only want a practice every other week and I don't want any fall tourneys - my boys are playing football 5+ days a week! During the winter, they'll do winter workouts with their lax team 1x per wk for 10 wks, but they're playing basketball and wrestling. Again, I don't want spring tourneys as they play school ball already 5x per wk and they are practicing at least every other wk with club until May. But you keep ramming that down your kids' throats. Sometime less is more!
You've got your kids playing football 5 times a week?!?!? You can stop talking now, no interest in anything you have to say. Apparently you're still living in 1985. Maybe you haven't heard by now that football has a direct correlation with serious brain trauma. Anyone who would allow their child to participate in that brutal sport might as well keep all of their opinions to themselves as they are totally worthless. You should read the BU study immediately.[/quote]
You are such a moron!!!! What rock do you and your kid live under????
In case you've been living under a rock, ALL MS and HS sports teams practice or play games 5 - 6 times a wk. You either play a play a school sport or you don't - football, like every other sport in MS is M- F. You can choose to not have your son play, but critiquing all the parents of the ~3M US youth football players as having no basis to speak is probably not going to get YOU much respect. And perhaps you probably haven't noticed the fairly large overlap of football and lacrosse players, so you are basically alienating a MAJORITY of people on this board with your 'assessment'. Thus, you end up on the short end of that basis for your argument; based upon THAT, most would think YOU, not me, should keep your opinions to yourself. And, having played football all the way through the NCAA level, as well as coaching football and lacrosse at the youth level, I've got more to offer on this topic than your casual, at-a-distance reading about it. Lastly, I've already read the study, and this is an 8th grade board - the BU study particularly focuses on the effects of playing before the age of 12 - what age are typical eighth graders in NY??[/quote]
I understand that it's an 8th grade board but thanks for explaining that as well as how MS and HS sports work. Did your son just start playing this year? I seriously doubt that. Given the self selection of who reads and posts on this board, I bet it's safe to guess you had your son playing tackle at the first opportunity - 3rd grade. Tell me I'm wrong. And if I am wrong, then why didn't he play tackle in 3rd grade? I'm sure he was playing lax back then.
I am absolutely fine alienating all 3 million of those kids' parents. I guarantee you that you are in the MINORITY. I live in one of the major lax towns on the Island and the vast MAJORITY of the MS and HS lacrosse players play soccer or run cross country in the Fall. My son is also on one of the best club teams in this age group, which draws from towns all over, and only 3 out of the 22 boys on his team play football. Anytime it has come up in conversation with those three parents, I've told them straight to their faces how I feel about it.
Finally, I would venture to guess that for most of the people reading this post, their sons have a significantly higher chance of playing college lacrosse than football. Why waste time with a sport where the downside (brain injuries and other physical issues) is so much greater than the upside? Life is hard enough with a functioning brain.
Maybe if your kid learned at an early age how to tackle you wouldnt be so worried abt concussions..By the way dummy...more kids get concussions in soccer than football.FACT look it up... please look it up...get off your soap box NO ONE CARES WHAT U THINK! just ur loser opinion
It's fine that you have your strongly stated opinions about football.And it is a sport that is prone to a lot injuries. Major steps are being taking by all the stakeholders (NFL down to youth) to improve player safety and protect all the players. Which is a lot more than lax. Lax lets 14 year olds play 12 year olds. I can argue that a young lax player vs a holdback is as open to injury risk as any football player.
It's fine that you have your strongly stated opinions about football.And it is a sport that is prone to a lot injuries. Major steps are being taking by all the stakeholders (NFL down to youth) to improve player safety and protect all the players. Which is a lot more than lax. Lax lets 14 year olds play 12 year olds. I can argue that a young lax player vs a holdback is as open to injury risk as any football player.
That's one of the major criticisms of the BU study - they are giving forward looking advice for youth play based upon the effects of players that used older equipment, rules, and guidance on head injury awareness. It's truly
not an apples to apples comparison.
As for the other comment about the football - lax crossover, we are one of the stronger programs in Class C, and to a person, of our 2021s that play club lacrosse,
every one of them plays football (and all but one wrestle). The same picture plays out in the next school district over - I grew up there and know the program almost as well as our own.
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The ones that charge half of what the to programs do . . . [/quote]
Half the price gets you daddy ball coaching, mediocre tourneys, bottom roster kids who cant catch/ throw and only 2/3 the practices.
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You keep telling yourself that - my kids have never had a daddy coach, and there was never kids who couldn't catch and throw. Personally, during the fall I only want a practice every other week and I don't want any fall tourneys - my boys are playing football 5+ days a week! During the winter, they'll do winter workouts with their lax team 1x per wk for 10 wks, but they're playing basketball and wrestling. Again, I don't want spring tourneys as they play school ball already 5x per wk and they are practicing at least every other wk with club until May. But you keep ramming that down your kids' throats. Sometime less is more![/quote]
You've got your kids playing football 5 times a week?!?!? You can stop talking now, no interest in anything you have to say. Apparently you're still living in 1985. Maybe you haven't heard by now that football has a direct correlation with serious brain trauma. Anyone who would allow their child to participate in that brutal sport might as well keep all of their opinions to themselves as they are totally worthless. You should read the BU study immediately.[/quote]
In case you've been living under a rock, ALL MS and HS sports teams practice or play games 5 - 6 times a wk. You either play a play a school sport or you don't - football, like every other sport in MS is M- F. You can choose to not have your son play, but critiquing all the parents of the ~3M US youth football players as having no basis to speak is probably not going to get YOU much respect. And perhaps you probably haven't noticed the fairly large overlap of football and lacrosse players, so you are basically alienating a MAJORITY of people on this board with your 'assessment'. Thus, you end up on the short end of that basis for your argument; based upon THAT, most would think YOU, not me, should keep your opinions to yourself. And, having played football all the way through the NCAA level, as well as coaching football and lacrosse at the youth level, I've got more to offer on this topic than your casual, at-a-distance reading about it. Lastly, I've already read the study, and this is an 8th grade board - the BU study particularly focuses on the effects of playing before the age of 12 - what age are typical eighth graders in NY??[/quote]
BTW, way to go on a tangent - regardless of what sport a kid is playing in the fall (and winter I and winter II!), they still have 5 practices/games per week!
Maybe if your kid learned at an early age how to tackle you wouldnt be so worried abt concussions..By the way dummy...more kids get concussions in soccer than football.FACT look it up... please look it up...get off your soap box NO ONE CARES WHAT U THINK! just ur loser opinion
You can teach your son how to "tackle the right way" but it's kind of difficult to teach him how to "get" tackled the right way.
You keep calling me a loser and a moron but that doesn't really push your argument forward. All you're really accomplishing is calling an anonymous person names, I'm not really sure what the point of that is. I'm also not sure why you're so upset with me but I'll guess that I've hit a nerve b/c you know what I'm saying is valid.
I never bothered talking about soccer because you didn't say your kid plays soccer 5 times a week. Soccer has it's own problems in that the sport just generally sucks but let's not get sidetracked with that. This whole thread started b/c you said that you wanted less of a Fall lacrosse program for your son b/c he's too busy playing football.
You act as if I'm taking some kind of crazy, controversial position on this when it's actually the other way around. Football is dying on the vine at the youth level. Boxing was also once a really popular sport in this country.
As far as NO ONE caring what I think (thanks for capitalizing that!), I disagree, I think at least one other person cares: YOU
i watched for a bit. Channy WSYL team kids can play. If that was the Chucks team you should run away. They are small and could not catch and throw. Schwalje team looked good w/ stick skills etc...My son practiced before them and hung around for a bit while he hung with some friends chatting..Please stop with this Chuck team..HE will NEVER be there..Great Channy was there..Doesnt mean a thing..You just wasted ur money on that team..Truth hurts
So funny, Channy has not missed one practice yet but you are correct about one thing..... Schwalje's team is shockingly small less 2 kids. The truth does hurt my friend
They are not small. You must have looked at the 2024 team.
You've got your kids playing football 5 times a week?!?!? You can stop talking now, no interest in anything you have to say. Apparently you're still living in 1985. Maybe you haven't heard by now that football has a direct correlation with serious brain trauma. Anyone who would allow their child to participate in that brutal sport might as well keep all of their opinions to themselves as they are totally worthless. You should read the BU study immediately.[/quote]
In case you've been living under a rock, ALL MS and HS sports teams practice or play games 5 - 6 times a wk. You either play a play a school sport or you don't - football, like every other sport in MS is M- F. You can choose to not have your son play, but critiquing all the parents of the ~3M US youth football players as having no basis to speak is probably not going to get YOU much respect. And perhaps you probably haven't noticed the fairly large overlap of football and lacrosse players, so you are basically alienating a MAJORITY of people on this board with your 'assessment'. Thus, you end up on the short end of that basis for your argument; based upon THAT, most would think YOU, not me, should keep your opinions to yourself. And, having played football all the way through the NCAA level, as well as coaching football and lacrosse at the youth level, I've got more to offer on this topic than your casual, at-a-distance reading about it. Lastly, I've already read the study, and this is an 8th grade board - the BU study particularly focuses on the effects of playing before the age of 12 - what age are typical eighth graders in NY??[/quote]
BTW, way to go on a tangent - regardless of what sport a kid is playing in the fall (and winter I and winter II!), they still have 5 practices/games per week![/quote]
Let's give him a bit of a break, this guy played football all his life, it's impressive enough that he was able to write a somewhat coherent paragraph.
This is a lacrosse board - right?
Think his wife wrote that for him 🏈
Think his wife wrote that for him 🏈
Which post? Really - is using the Quote button that hard??
On the topic of express. I am a little confused. As always Chaney recruits as many players as he can then takes an A team of 35 and over the course of the year narrows it down to the top 16 who will play. If you are in the top 16 that's great, if you are on that team it's great. If you know your child is in th bottom 15, move on. Then you have the B team, if your kid is a B player hen express is great. If your kid is on the C or D team then get him on a good B team elsewhere or he should play a different sport
On the topic of express. I am a little confused. As always Chaney recruits as many players as he can then takes an A team of 35 and over the course of the year narrows it down to the top 16 who will play. If you are in the top 16 that's great, if you are on that team it's great. If you know your child is in th bottom 15, move on. Then you have the B team, if your kid is a B player hen express is great. If your kid is on the C or D team then get him on a good B team elsewhere or he should play a different sport
You don't sound confused. Move on to a 2nd tier club that doesn't practice, the doesn't respond to emails. At least every Express team practices.
On the topic of express. I am a little confused. As always Chaney recruits as many players as he can then takes an A team of 35 and over the course of the year narrows it down to the top 16 who will play. If you are in the top 16 that's great, if you are on that team it's great. If you know your child is in th bottom 15, move on. Then you have the B team, if your kid is a B player hen express is great. If your kid is on the C or D team then get him on a good B team elsewhere or he should play a different sport
You don't sound confused. Move on to a 2nd tier club that doesn't practice, the doesn't respond to emails. At least every Express team practices.
The idea that any clubs beyond the top few don't practice enough (what is "enough"?!) and/or don't respond is complete load of sh*t - there are teams from all tiers, inlcuding the top (!), that are both good and bad about communicating as well as practicing more or less!
On the topic of express. I am a little confused. As always Chaney recruits as many players as he can then takes an A team of 35 and over the course of the year narrows it down to the top 16 who will play. If you are in the top 16 that's great, if you are on that team it's great. If you know your child is in th bottom 15, move on. Then you have the B team, if your kid is a B player hen express is great. If your kid is on the C or D team then get him on a good B team elsewhere or he should play a different sport
You don't sound confused. Move on to a 2nd tier club that doesn't practice, the doesn't respond to emails. At least every Express team practices.
You must have a kid on the C or D team. Yes practice is important, unfortunately if your kid is on one of those teams he is probably working on his catching and throwing. Maybe, try baseball instead.
I think practices are the MOST important part of club lax. Your kid improves at practices, not tourneys. Practice is where they are coached and learn skills. Tourneys are the gravy. I don't need another championship t shirt for my kid, I need him to be the best he can be at lax.
On the topic of express. I am a little confused. As always Chaney recruits as many players as he can then takes an A team of 35 and over the course of the year narrows it down to the top 16 who will play. If you are in the top 16 that's great, if you are on that team it's great. If you know your child is in th bottom 15, move on. Then you have the B team, if your kid is a B player hen express is great. If your kid is on the C or D team then get him on a good B team elsewhere or he should play a different sport
You don't sound confused. Move on to a 2nd tier club that doesn't practice, the doesn't respond to emails. At least every Express team practices.
You must have a kid on the C or D team. Yes practice is important, unfortunately if your kid is on one of those teams he is probably working on his catching and throwing. Maybe, try baseball instead.
Again, you don't sound confused. Just sharing your opinion on a topic that you are dangerously ignorant.
And what does your son need?
And what does your son need?
Bingo!
I think practices are the MOST important part of club lax. Your kid improves at practices, not tourneys. Practice is where they are coached and learn skills. Tourneys are the gravy. I don't need another championship t shirt for my kid, I need him to be the best he can be at lax.
Disagree, respectfully.
On competitive travel teams, not every player is necessarily going to play the same amount, but part of your job as a coach is to develop every player on your team.
“It is a tenet of good coaching that you get kids into games,” writes Jim Thompson, founder and CEO of the Positive Coaching Alliance, a US Lacrosse national partner. “Most of the benefits of playing a sport are tied to competing in games.”
www.uslacrosse.org/blog/good-coaches-get-players-into-games
I think practices are the MOST important part of club lax. Your kid improves at practices, not tourneys. Practice is where they are coached and learn skills. Tourneys are the gravy. I don't need another championship t shirt for my kid, I need him to be the best he can be at lax.
Disagree, respectfully.
On competitive travel teams, not every player is necessarily going to play the same amount, but part of your job as a coach is to develop every player on your team.
“It is a tenet of good coaching that you get kids into games,” writes Jim Thompson, founder and CEO of the Positive Coaching Alliance, a US Lacrosse national partner. “Most of the benefits of playing a sport are tied to competing in games.”
www.uslacrosse.org/blog/good-coaches-get-players-into-gamesCoach does have to develop a player. that development happens during practice, not in a game.
I agree games are important but practice and repetitions develop and improve players.
And what does your son need?
Bingo!
He has what he needs, great club and a great coach.
My son is the one who wants to play club lax.
I have no problem (OK maybe little!) with investing a lot of time and money into something he wants to do.
But, I expect him to work hard and be the best he can be.
I think practices are the MOST important part of club lax. Your kid improves at practices, not tourneys. Practice is where they are coached and learn skills. Tourneys are the gravy. I don't need another championship t shirt for my kid, I need him to be the best he can be at lax.
Disagree, respectfully.
On competitive travel teams, not every player is necessarily going to play the same amount, but part of your job as a coach is to develop every player on your team.
“It is a tenet of good coaching that you get kids into games,” writes Jim Thompson, founder and CEO of the Positive Coaching Alliance, a US Lacrosse national partner. “Most of the benefits of playing a sport are tied to competing in games.”
www.uslacrosse.org/blog/good-coaches-get-players-into-gamesCoach does have to develop a player. that development happens during practice, not in a game.
I agree games are important but practice and repetitions develop and improve players.
I hear you. But not playing gets old quick. Because I agree kids will improve practicing with better players (if they are getting reps). However, they will not play in any tight game. It's okay to shorten the bench and play to win, especially at the elite team level. But a coach should reward hard work at practice and get the bottom half of the roster in for a shift or two. Not playing is unacceptable, again, in my opinion. If a coach does that he will bridge the development during practice by building confidence in the player. That combination will speed up the development of a player. A competent coach can do it, because if a kid isn't good to play, he is on the wrong team.
I think practices are the MOST important part of club lax. Your kid improves at practices, not tourneys. Practice is where they are coached and learn skills. Tourneys are the gravy. I don't need another championship t shirt for my kid, I need him to be the best he can be at lax.
Disagree, respectfully.
On competitive travel teams, not every player is necessarily going to play the same amount, but part of your job as a coach is to develop every player on your team.
“It is a tenet of good coaching that you get kids into games,” writes Jim Thompson, founder and CEO of the Positive Coaching Alliance, a US Lacrosse national partner. “Most of the benefits of playing a sport are tied to competing in games.”
www.uslacrosse.org/blog/good-coaches-get-players-into-gamesCoach does have to develop a player. that development happens during practice, not in a game.
I agree games are important but practice and repetitions develop and improve players.
I hear you. But not playing gets old quick. Because I agree kids will improve practicing with better players (if they are getting reps). However, they will not play in any tight game. It's okay to shorten the bench and play to win, especially at the elite team level. But a coach should reward hard work at practice and get the bottom half of the roster in for a shift or two. Not playing is unacceptable, again, in my opinion. If a coach does that he will bridge the development during practice by building confidence in the player. That combination will speed up the development of a player. A competent coach can do it, because if a kid isn't good to play, he is on the wrong team.
But why might such a boy be "on the wrong team"? . You can say that a parent might have some complicity, but considering the lax 'expertise' of the team evaluators, most of the blame should be placed on them. As a business, they take some 'inappropriate' players to fill out the team and "pay the bills, when in reality they should pass over such players and continue to recruit 'appropriate' players.
Just a comment about the Chuck's vs Schwalje team. Both have good players. Fact is Chuck's team is smaller built on the offense and a couple of poles are very weak. Schwalje's boys are definitely bigger and the poles are excellent. The goalie on Chuck's team is way better than one of the goalies on Schwalje. Channy was not coaching Chuck's team on Wednesday. His other two coaches were. Igloo B is scrimmaging Chuck's team so we will see how they weather.
chucks team didnt score a goal today in the scrimmage vs Igloo. Channy was there and not happy...They are a B- team at best.
Just a comment about the Chuck's vs Schwalje team. Both have good players. Fact is Chuck's team is smaller built on the offense and a couple of poles are very weak. Schwalje's boys are definitely bigger and the poles are excellent. The goalie on Chuck's team is way better than one of the goalies on Schwalje. Channy was not coaching Chuck's team on Wednesday. His other two coaches were. Igloo B is scrimmaging Chuck's team so we will see how they weather.
Word is igloo B spanked Chuck's team today
Please learn to use the "Quote" button - forum logins or not do change this problem!
Chuck 2022 B minus team ur right
Just a comment about the Chuck's vs Schwalje team. Both have good players. Fact is Chuck's team is smaller built on the offense and a couple of poles are very weak. Schwalje's boys are definitely bigger and the poles are excellent. The goalie on Chuck's team is way better than one of the goalies on Schwalje. Channy was not coaching Chuck's team on Wednesday. His other two coaches were. Igloo B is scrimmaging Chuck's team so we will see how they weather.
Way to call out a 13 YO goalie.......dude, get a grip.
Just a comment about the Chuck's vs Schwalje team. Both have good players. Fact is Chuck's team is smaller built on the offense and a couple of poles are very weak. Schwalje's boys are definitely bigger and the poles are excellent. The goalie on Chuck's team is way better than one of the goalies on Schwalje. Channy was not coaching Chuck's team on Wednesday. His other two coaches were. Igloo B is scrimmaging Chuck's team so we will see how they weather.
Word is igloo B spanked Chuck's team today
12-0....
Chucks picked up a few kids who did not play much on 91A and 91 Academy (Development Team), Outlaws B, and Legacee. Unless Channy drops AA players onto that team, they will struggle to even be on this list.
Top Teams (In any order)
Igloo AA
Express AA
91AA
Next Teams (In any order)
Outlaws A
91A
Igloo A
ExpressA (depending on who Channy drops onto this team)
LegaceeA (maybe)
All others. Outlaws wanna be AA, but they are clearly a top A team. IglooA and 91A are close to AA, some kids could make those teams, but they are not there yet. ExpressA - Who knows? Do they have 3 teams? 4 teams? Huge money grab. Everyone wanted to join after his WSYL win, but he is not adding to his AA because AA is all he focuses on.
Can't wait to see Legasseee AAA at their own Columbus Day tourney playing that brutal schedule - True Blue, E3 and LI Knights so that they can get crushed by Channy in the finals.
Please learn to use the "Quote" button - forum logins or not do change this problem!
I am referring to Igloo... "Igloo B team spanked...". We are not a B team... call is "A" if you will but the team is much better then "B " level
Just a comment about the Chuck's vs Schwalje team. Both have good players. Fact is Chuck's team is smaller built on the offense and a couple of poles are very weak. Schwalje's boys are definitely bigger and the poles are excellent. The goalie on Chuck's team is way better than one of the goalies on Schwalje. Channy was not coaching Chuck's team on Wednesday. His other two coaches were. Igloo B is scrimmaging Chuck's team so we will see how they weather.
Thanks Dad who is desperately needing to believe his son is on an "A" team.
Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
That Igloo A (2nd team) is a very very good team.......better than United in their hay day before 9D1 messed those teams.
Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
That Igloo A (2nd team) is a very very good team.......better than United in their hay day before 9D1 messed those teams.
Igloo B has 10 new players, why don't we give it a little time and see how three compete
[quote=Anonymous]Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
That Igloo A (2nd team) is a very very good team.......better than United in their hay day before 9D1 messed those teams. [/quote
Absolutely! Thank you! We are a very well rounded team that will play tough against Express and 9D1.
Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
That Igloo A (2nd team) is a very very good team.......better than United in their hay day before 9D1 messed those teams.
Igloo B has 10 new players, why don't we give it a little time and see how three compete
United still around?
Here, to make you feel better, Igloo 2nd team.
That Igloo A (2nd team) is a very very good team.......better than United in their hay day before 9D1 messed those teams.
Really - How many tournaments have they won, how many times have they beat their AA Team, Express Channy, 91 AA. United won the NXT Cup twice and many other AA tournaments. They ended up combining teams last year because they were winning tournaments and Smash was not.
As for this year 91AA is pretty much a new and better team with only about half left from last year and A has improved. Good Luck to all the teams, it should be a fun year.
Talking ends Sunday, stick around after you get knocked out to watch the finals.
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
It's fall ball everyone.......results of these fall tourneys are no indication how the team will do next July.
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
Why so negative? Stop hating!
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
Why so negative? Stop hating!
Not hating just stating facts
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
Why so negative? Stop hating!
Not hating just stating facts
True Blue will be competitive with or beat igloo b and outlaws, would not surprise me to see therm in the finals
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
Why so negative? Stop hating!
Not hating just stating facts
True Blue will be competitive with or beat igloo b and outlaws, would not surprise me to see them in the finals
Did they legalize something good while I was sleeping off the Giants' loss yesterday? I know that there are a lot of Outlaws haters here, but there is no way Jet Blue would come within 5 goals of the pirates. Unfortunately, Jet Blue is playing Legaccceeeee instead of the pirates. I guess we will never know.
It will be Legacy or Igloo vs Express in the A final and Express Shwalje vs Express Chucks in the other final.
It will be Legacy or Igloo vs Express in the A final and Express Shwalje vs Express Chucks in the other final.
Legaceeee takes it all !
As far as the CAA bracket I find it highly unlikely that Express Chuck advances to the finals after losing the first game. Probably will not be an actual Championship game as Express Schwalje's 3rd game will be between the two undefeated teams and instead of playing back to back games against one another will play game 3 for the Championship
Who are YOU talking to?? Learn to use the Quote button!!
So hilarious to see True Boo I mean Blue playing in the big dog bracket. They will be leaving with their tail between their legs. Pretty bold move Coach Bentz. Looking forward to watching them get humiliated out there.
Why so negative? Stop hating!
When you all have is one tune, you pretty much stick with that . . . it's pretty sad . . . .
As far as the CAA bracket I find it highly unlikely that Express Chuck advances to the finals after losing the first game. Probably will not be an actual Championship game as Express Schwalje's 3rd game will be between the two undefeated teams and instead of playing back to back games against one another will play game 3 for the Championship
Chucks should beat the Hitmen. It's the a lot of the same players that beat them at beach blast, plus some really good adds. I am sure Hitmen added as well. Express beat the Hitmen easy in the summer by 7 goals and that's a lot to make up. But it only counts on the field not on a blog. Best of luck.
Should be outlaws or legacee vs express in the finals. Legacee should be very strong this year, they were strong last year and picked up some very good players. Outlaws are similar to last year and igloo has too many new players to compete this early in the season, just my thoughts
Should be outlaws or legacee vs express in the finals. Legacee should be very strong this year, they were strong last year and picked up some very good players. Outlaws are similar to last year and igloo has too many new players to compete this early in the season, just my thoughts
It will be legaceee.. they have a soft schedule.
True Blue in the FINALS? You're delusional for sure!!! Don't quit your day job troller 😂 Keep the jokes coming.
It will be Legacy or Igloo vs Express in the A final and Express Shwalje vs Express Chucks in the other final.
Your a dreamer ! That CHUCKS team sucks! They are not even a B team. Bottom line is Channy greed taking over and now the dumb parents feel the wrath!
Lets all be honest here. There is NO WAY Outlaws are beating Igloo AA, Express(channy), or 9d1 AA. They will struggle with Igloo A and Express Schwailje and Legassy. They are really not very good this year! The only major change for them is the new goalie.
Just stating the facts huh? ..fact is your a tbag. you only hate because you think pink trout is better..go have fun over there with those clowns and the b team nonsense..bentz is awesome..
Just stating the facts huh? ..fact is your a tbag. you only hate because you think pink trout is better..go have fun over there with those clowns and the b team nonsense..bentz is awesome..
Pink trout and clowns 🤡.? It's more like Jokers to the right and Bentz with his coolade drinking fools going down. See you on the side lines.
Just stating the facts huh? ..fact is your a tbag. you only hate because you think pink trout is better..go have fun over there with those clowns and the b team nonsense..bentz is awesome..
Keep drinking the Joe Cat juice thinking it will get you kid to Adelphi.
Express Schwailge playing b this mon? why , they are A team
Express Schwailge playing b this mon? why , they are A team
said Mr E the talking horse 🐴
Express Schwailge playing b this mon? why , they are A team
Because there is no C division.....
Lets all be honest here. There is NO WAY Outlaws are beating Igloo AA, Express(channy), or 9d1 AA. They will struggle with Igloo A and Express Schwailje and Legassy. They are really not very good this year! The only major change for them is the new goalie.
Fake News!!! You are uninformed. Why even start this thread? Troublemaker!
Express Schwailge playing b this mon? why , they are A team
Because there is no C division.....
Careful daddy, you just exposed yourself...
Express Schwailge playing b this mon? why , they are A team
Because there is no C division.....
Careful daddy, you just exposed yourself...
Actually, there are no C teams moron and bring your comments to the field as we crush you. Here's a news flash, stop living vicariously through your kid. Winning one or two tournaments does not make you an A or B team when you never play the top teams in both divisions. Let the boys play and develop and stop stalking this site stirring up trouble. One day all of your negativity and comments are going to bite you in the butt and full karma will tear it's head. Have a wonderful and blessed day.
It will be Legacy or Igloo vs Express in the A final and Express Shwalje vs Express Chucks in the other final.
Legaceeee takes it all !
A little different now the schedule changed and Chucks plays Schwalje in the pool play.
Please learn to use the "Quote" button - forum logins or not do change this problem!
I am referring to Igloo... "Igloo B team spanked...". We are not a B team... call is "A" if you will but the team is much better then "B " level
you sound like a loser saying "we are not a b team" doesn't matter what you want to call your sons team (b a- aaa a+ ) the REALITY is that
you are the 2nd team and not the TOP team !!!!!! so if you need to say you are an A to sleep at night then that is fine but WE all know the truth!!
......................full karma will tear it's head. Have a wonderful and blessed day.
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Huh?
Rest is true though, fall tourneys mean little.......
......................full karma will tear it's head. Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Huh?
Rest is true though, fall tourneys mean little....... [/quote]
I believe it's a spell check issue. "full karma will REAR it's ugly head". This crap is so funny and I am enjoying the battle between these two dads, hahahahaha
......................full karma will tear it's head. Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Huh?
Rest is true though, fall tourneys mean little.......
I believe it's a spell check issue. "full karma will REAR it's ugly head". This crap is so funny and I am enjoying the battle between these two dads, hahahahaha
[/quote]
Ahhhh......full karma as opposed to partial?
Seriously. Especially this week (LV).
......................full karma will tear it's head. Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Huh?
Rest is true though, fall tourneys mean little.......
I believe it's a spell check issue. "full karma will REAR it's ugly head". This crap is so funny and I am enjoying the battle between these two dads, hahahahaha
Ahhhh......full karma as opposed to partial? [/quote]
yup, must be full karma vs partial or half karma?
How did the new look outlaws do against igloo last night?
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Please learn to use the "Quote" button - forum logins or not do change this problem!
I am referring to Igloo... "Igloo B team spanked...". We are not a B team... call is "A" if you will but the team is much better then "B " level
you sound like a loser saying "we are not a b team" doesn't matter what you want to call your sons team (b a- aaa a+ ) the REALITY is that
you are the 2nd team and not the TOP team !!!!!! so if you need to say you are an A to sleep at night then that is fine but WE all know the truth!!
Truth about what? The team will be competitive in A tournaments.. so what if the team is referred to as the second team
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Was is Arctic Blast or Aspen Extreme?
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Was is Arctic Blast or Aspen Extreme?
It was Arctic Blast against Outlaws on Tuesday.
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Was is Arctic Blast or Aspen Extreme?
It was Arctic Blast against Outlaws on Tuesday.
Good for the Outlaws to play them competitively and maybe the Outlaw critics can pipe down.
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Was is Arctic Blast or Aspen Extreme?
It was Arctic Blast against Outlaws on Tuesday.
Good for the Outlaws to play them competitively and maybe the Outlaw critics can pipe down.
Score?
They played 3 quarters. Igloo was up by 4 when they stopped. Good tune up for both clubs to work on some things, especially Outlaws who play this Columbus Day
As far as the CAA bracket I find it highly unlikely that Express Chuck advances to the finals after losing the first game. Probably will not be an actual Championship game as Express Schwalje's 3rd game will be between the two undefeated teams and instead of playing back to back games against one another will play game 3 for the Championship
Chucks should beat the Hitmen. It's the a lot of the same players that beat them at beach blast, plus some really good adds. I am sure Hitmen added as well. Express beat the Hitmen easy in the summer by 7 goals and that's a lot to make up. But it only counts on the field not on a blog. Best of luck.
It was back and forth. Hitmen played and scrimmaged that Express team 4 times last year. They beat them in the Fall, in a scrimmage (doesn't matter), and earlier in the Summer. The Beach Blast was the last time they played and they beat them. The last game it looked like Express added a few kids, and Hitmen were without their better goalie and a couple of middies. Looking forward to seeing the match up on Monday it should be fun to see what the tryouts for both teams did.
As far as the CAA bracket I find it highly unlikely that Express Chuck advances to the finals after losing the first game. Probably will not be an actual Championship game as Express Schwalje's 3rd game will be between the two undefeated teams and instead of playing back to back games against one another will play game 3 for the Championship
Chucks should beat the Hitmen. It's the a lot of the same players that beat them at beach blast, plus some really good adds. I am sure Hitmen added as well. Express beat the Hitmen easy in the summer by 7 goals and that's a lot to make up. But it only counts on the field not on a blog. Best of luck.
It was back and forth. Hitmen played and scrimmaged that Express team 4 times last year. They beat them in the Fall, in a scrimmage (doesn't matter), and earlier in the Summer. The Beach Blast was the last time they played and they beat them. The last game it looked like Express added a few kids, and Hitmen were without their better goalie and a couple of middies. Looking forward to seeing the match up on Monday it should be fun to see what the tryouts for both teams did.
Excuses excuses Hitmen. We NEVER added any new players, we were coached well and progressed which is what is suppose to happen. We never scrimmaged you 4 times. It was twice and then lost to you in two tourneys...for the record of course. At the time, you were a better time and in the end, we were.
As far as the CAA bracket I find it highly unlikely that Express Chuck advances to the finals after losing the first game. Probably will not be an actual Championship game as Express Schwalje's 3rd game will be between the two undefeated teams and instead of playing back to back games against one another will play game 3 for the Championship
Chucks should beat the Hitmen. It's the a lot of the same players that beat them at beach blast, plus some really good adds. I am sure Hitmen added as well. Express beat the Hitmen easy in the summer by 7 goals and that's a lot to make up. But it only counts on the field not on a blog. Best of luck.
It was back and forth. Hitmen played and scrimmaged that Express team 4 times last year. They beat them in the Fall, in a scrimmage (doesn't matter), and earlier in the Summer. The Beach Blast was the last time they played and they beat them. The last game it looked like Express added a few kids, and Hitmen were without their better goalie and a couple of middies. Looking forward to seeing the match up on Monday it should be fun to see what the tryouts for both teams did.
Excuses excuses Hitmen. We NEVER added any new players, we were coached well and progressed which is what is suppose to happen. We never scrimmaged you 4 times. It was twice and then lost to you in two tourneys...for the record of course. At the time, you were a better time and in the end, we were.
And yet the parents chose to split the team up
First the previous poster never said the two teams Hitmen and Chucks scrimmaged 4 times, the poster said " Hitmen played and scrimmaged that Express team 4 times last year" . Which you agreed with. reading comprehension is a huge skill. Second is this a 13 year old posting because all I see is "WE". "WE" and "WE". so must be a 13 year old posting because don't think an adult was playing or is it just that you live vicariously through you kid .
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
New Outlaws looked very good. Both teams, Outlaws and Igloo looked very good!
Was is Arctic Blast or Aspen Extreme?
It was Arctic Blast against Outlaws on Tuesday.
Good for the Outlaws to play them competitively and maybe the Outlaw critics can pipe down.
Outlaws= orange pubichair. 91= orange faketan
First the previous poster never said the two teams Hitmen and Chucks scrimmaged 4 times, the poster said " Hitmen played and scrimmaged that Express team 4 times last year" . Which you agreed with. reading comprehension is a huge skill. Second is this a 13 year old posting because all I see is "WE". "WE" and "WE". so must be a 13 year old posting because don't think an adult was playing or is it just that you live vicariously through you kid .
So is spelling, grammar and punctuation you moron. No one said anything about Chuck's team. Just recapping you're inconsistencies. See you Monday.
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Hi! Well Stated! I am a bitter parent of a former Outlaw player. My son is no longer on the team because they decided to upgrade.
You stole my thunder. I was going to come on here and post the very same thing and purposely leave Outlaws off the list. Kudos to you.
Here is what you posted " We never scrimmaged you 4 times. It was twice and then lost to you in two tourneys...for the record of course. At the time, you were a better time and in the end, we were." Of course you are posting about Chucks, because that was the team that played Hitmen last season. Then of course in typical hide behind a computer tough guy fashion you call the person who called you out a moron. You sound like a typical snowflake liberal.
Who cares, the Hitmen play all three Express teams on Monday, lets wait and see. Nothing that happened 2 months ago or a year ago matters. It will be a good gauge to see who is the best of the rest and develop over the year to get to that next step, like the 2nd Igloo team did last year. That team is the barometer for all these teams.
Here is what you posted " We never scrimmaged you 4 times. It was twice and then lost to you in two tourneys...for the record of course. At the time, you were a better time and in the end, we were." Of course you are posting about Chucks, because that was the team that played Hitmen last season. Then of course in typical hide behind a computer tough guy fashion you call the person who called you out a moron. You sound like a typical snowflake liberal.
Oh geez dude, let it go. I'm an outsider here from neither team and sounds like your OCD has gotten the better of you. Let your boys play and stop the nonsense. Hitmen won, Chuck's aka O'Reilly's team won, who cares. Most likey neither of you will see the championship.
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
Is that what the coach told you when spoke with him. Thanks for updating us all.
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
Yes that's a good theory jackass, or maybe, and I know his will sound crazy to you, they have a different tournament schedule.
Chucks are a C team first of all so let’s get real . If they play everyone ? That’s if ! The bottom
of the roster is real weak. Some of the kids where cut from B teams and others didn’t make
Any other teams . So let’s just call them Stampede Chucks!
Chucks are a C team first of all so let’s get real . If they play everyone ? That’s if ! The bottom
of the roster is real weak. Some of the kids where cut from B teams and others didn’t make
Any other teams . So let’s just call them Stampede Chucks!
Funny about the bottom of the roster comment since Schwailje did not have enough kids and Express shuffled the deck to get the #'s for a roster.
So my your logic, your kid's Schwailje team is true B team........and they should crush Chucks tomorrow.
Stampede? Huh?
Start coming up with excuses now my friend.
Personally think the 2 teams are equal in talent with Chucks having the edge in coaching.
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
Yes that's a good theory jackass, or maybe, and I know his will sound crazy to you, they have a different tournament schedule.
How many fall tournaments is the team playing in and which ones
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
Yes that's a good theory jackass, or maybe, and I know his will sound crazy to you, they have a different tournament schedule.
How many fall tournaments is the team playing in and which ones
Why do you care so much? Why don’t you just worry about your kid”s team?
If the tournament doesn't happen b/c of the 100% chance of rain, can we all agree on the top teams (in order):
-Igloo
-Express
-9D1
-Legacee
-Igloo B
-Express B
Get a life...
igloo a team not even going just their b team
combination of igloo a thinking that they are too good and hiding from competition
Yes that's a good theory jackass, or maybe, and I know his will sound crazy to you, they have a different tournament schedule.
How many fall tournaments is the team playing in and which ones
Blatant
Octoberfest
NAFLA Invitational
Where is 9D1 tomorrow too?
Saw igloo B, outlaws and legacy play today, despite the weather, those teams seem very evenly mathched and all seem excellent, could beat an A team on any given day, not to at they are A teams just saying they looked very good.
Igloo is the team to beat
Yeah igloo!!!!!!!!!! Best fall event coming up in less than a month. Elite eighty baby. No other organization can get all those head coaches from top programs. Go TA
pay to watch. any org that wants to pay coaches that kind of money can welcome the same. whatever we know it is the best event in the universe
Interesting topic to debate. Is it better to play B than A if your team is an A as designated by the club, but really not A talent. I ask because True Blue, E3 and the Knights had some tough match ups today. Do the kids take anything positive from that? Or is better just climb to the top the B tier and then move up. My opinion, no benefit to playing A unless you can compete. There is losing and learning and then there is just getting blown out.
Who won the ship today at Legacy's event? Tourney Machine went quiet...
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
hey idiot the tourney was cancelled due to bad weather and will be reached so stop stirring the pot.
Let me tell you pot stirring tools something, Express may have figured it out because both those teams after WSYL champs look legit! Is going to be interesting and not to mention, still some movement over there. Teams are not done and still adding pieces. Channy gonna give you guys some more talk about.
Interesting topic to debate. Is it better to play B than A if your team is an A as designated by the club, but really not A talent. I ask because True Blue, E3 and the Knights had some tough match ups today. Do the kids take anything positive from that? Or is better just climb to the top the B tier and then move up. My opinion, no benefit to playing A unless you can compete. There is losing and learning and then there is just getting blown out.
Agree. Better work you can do, kids are into it, working towards getting better. Sure, you can learn a lot and developed by playing against better comp, but blowout level does nothing positive.
Interesting topic to debate. Is it better to play B than A if your team is an A as designated by the club, but really not A talent. I ask because True Blue, E3 and the Knights had some tough match ups today. Do the kids take anything positive from that? Or is better just climb to the top the B tier and then move up. My opinion, no benefit to playing A unless you can compete. There is losing and learning and then there is just getting blown out.
Good question.
My son was on a B level team for 3-4 years but recently made 2-3 high end A teams and we eventually decided to join one. He had offers past two years but we waited until he was good enough to make a true A level team then jump to a below average A team just to say we were on one. I have seen others do this - all smiles when Johnny is on Blah Blah A team and then they get smacked some B team or blown ouut by a true A. They start screaming about $, bad coaching, etc when is reality that A team is probably not better then the B team they were on but play at harder tournaments so they get smoked.
I think I made the right decision and feel good about it. Will see how it works out.
Who won the ship today at Legacy's event? Tourney Machine went quiet...
Mother Nature
Interesting topic to debate. Is it better to play B than A if your team is an A as designated by the club, but really not A talent. I ask because True Blue, E3 and the Knights had some tough match ups today. Do the kids take anything positive from that? Or is better just climb to the top the B tier and then move up. My opinion, no benefit to playing A unless you can compete. There is losing and learning and then there is just getting blown out.
Agree. Better work you can do, kids are into it, working towards getting better. Sure, you can learn a lot and developed by playing against better comp, but blowout level does nothing positive.
Here is the interesting piece that I do not want you to think I am a pot stirer but, True Blue, Knights and E3 were complete blowouts, which proves your son's can not play in the big leagues yet regardless of what your coach says. Hence the word, yet. This comes down to the parents talking a big game that their respective teams are "A", when in reality, they clearly are not. When your club organization only plays you in B, C and D divisions (yes D Division @ Yale Bull Dog), you may win, but you have to look at the competition. Play with the top B/B+ teams and see how you do. Then you can beat your chest when you destroy them. I am referring to solid club teams such as Igloo B (which is really an A-), Express Schwalije, Express Chuck, Hitment and Legacy. Until you face these teams, you absolutely can not call your club team that your son plays on A. Just saying...
Let me tell you pot stirring tools something, Express may have figured it out because both those teams after WSYL champs look legit! Is going to be interesting and not to mention, still some movement over there. Teams are not done and still adding pieces. Channy gonna give you guys some more talk about.
After posting this driving off the nearest road should be option one. These are young boys and it's early October. Get a hobby express daddy
Legacy would have shocked the WSYL champs
Interesting topic to debate. Is it better to play B than A if your team is an A as designated by the club, but really not A talent. I ask because True Blue, E3 and the Knights had some tough match ups today. Do the kids take anything positive from that? Or is better just climb to the top the B tier and then move up. My opinion, no benefit to playing A unless you can compete. There is losing and learning and then there is just getting blown out.
Agree. Better work you can do, kids are into it, working towards getting better. Sure, you can learn a lot and developed by playing against better comp, but blowout level does nothing positive.
Here is the interesting piece that I do not want you to think I am a pot stirer but, True Blue, Knights and E3 were complete blowouts, which proves your son's can not play in the big leagues yet regardless of what your coach says. Hence the word, yet. This comes down to the parents talking a big game that their respective teams are "A", when in reality, they clearly are not. When your club organization only plays you in B, C and D divisions (yes D Division @ Yale Bull Dog), you may win, but you have to look at the competition. Play with the top B/B+ teams and see how you do. Then you can beat your chest when you destroy them. I am referring to solid club teams such as Igloo B (which is really an A-), Express Schwalije, Express Chuck, Hitment and Legacy. Until you face these teams, you absolutely can not call your club team that your son plays on A. Just saying...
When you infer that the entirety of A teams in any grade on LI is limited to ~5 teams, your commentary is immediately dismissed, as is anyone else's who makes a similar claim . . .
Legacy would have shocked the WSYL champs
It was pouring and hard to gauge just playing them for 25 minutes, but Legacy B definitely added talent and improved over last year.
Schedule is out for this weekend. GC34 looks like the favorite. Although, don't know anything about GSLA. Garden State Lacrosse Academy.
Wow just looked at the line up...talk about a B tourney at best..
Wow just looked at the line up...talk about a B tourney at best..
Lighten up Rabil. It's Fall Ball. You must have been something back in the day....
thanks for stating the obvious Mr simple mind small wood !
Idiot? My sons team was supposed to play them yesterday and tournament got canceled..Valid question..with the new teams added by Express this year and kids moved around I'm curious to know how the teams rank talent wise from best on down..
Why so bitter anonoumus tough guy??
Channy, then whoever does the best at the Columbus Day tourney makeup. Let how they play be the deciding factor, since all 3 are in it and face common opponents. Otherwise, it's waste to guess. Kudos to Top Lacrosse for trying reschedule those games. That's what will make people want to return next year!
Channy, then whoever does the best at the Columbus Day tourney makeup. Let how they play be the deciding factor, since all 3 are in it and face common opponents. Otherwise, it's waste to guess. Kudos to Top Lacrosse for trying reschedule those games. That's what will make people want to return next year!
I heard they were trying to reschedule it as well; anyone have info?
Heard they are making it up this Saturday afternoon, but have yet to get any times.
Heard they are making it up this Saturday afternoon, but have yet to get any times.
3pm, 4pm and 5pm
Heard they are making it up this Saturday afternoon, but have yet to get any times.
3pm, 4pm and 5pm
Looks like it won't be this weekend due to field conditions.
Heard they are making it up this Saturday afternoon, but have yet to get any times.
3pm, 4pm and 5pm
CANCELLED
Heard they are making it up this Saturday afternoon, but have yet to get any times.
3pm, 4pm and 5pm
CANCELLED
Because of the fields, but now it looks like the forecast has changed and 80 degrees on Sunday.
Tourney machine not updating scores. How is havoc going ?
Tourney machine not updating scores. How is havoc going ?
Huh, its tomorrow for 2022's.....
Tourney machine not updating scores. How is havoc going ?
Huh, its tomorrow for 2022's.....
Low scoring games
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
So the player from Express, who played in the WSYL, played for 91 Florida today. That’s a little ridiculous, no? What’s with that family? Are they just completely nuts? Someone on the sodelines said that he plays for Express 2022??? Please, someone explain this to me.
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
So the player from Express, who played in the WSYL, played for 91 Florida today. Please, someone explain this to me.
Sounds like you already explained it to yourself. Now go get a life or better yet ask that director what she's doing next and live through her
[quote=Anonymous]Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
Oh really? You heard he plays for express 22? You started your whining stating that he was the MVP of World Series... ding bat. You don't think he's going to play for his mother's team?
And that's ok? Youth lax is the wild Wild West. Would love to see if there were ever any actual rules that were enforced.
Lax-God forbid that the boy plays with two teams. Some kids run with Dukes Nationals too, is that a sin? What about those that play town and club, is that a no no? Just let the players go and compete.
And that's ok? Youth lax is the wild Wild West. Would love to see if there were ever any actual rules that were enforced.
Also love to see that the holdback train is full steam ahead for the Express North team. They can't compete on age so they hold them back. Great life lessons being taught there. Well done parents.
blatant schedule comes out when??
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
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Oh really? You heard he plays for express 22?
Seems fishy to me too, but the whole family is [lacrosse] crazy. I wouldn’t spend any time worrying about it.
Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
[quote=Anonymous]Are there any A teams in the Havic tournament or just B and town teams? That's not 9D1s A team is it?
It is their second team.
This one kid faced off and then later I saw him on attack. Anyone want to explain this to me??? This is fishy. These people are nuts. I believe his shoes had red laces???? Anyone want to fill me in on what's going on around here???
91 Florida AKA USPA Titans lacrosse!
91 Florida AKA USPA Titans lacrosse!
Lol! Titans have never been know for being classy! That kid always plays for that team (and any other team, even 2023’s). The mom is a real piece of work. This is nothing new. Even still, that team is not good. The kid in question has never passed the ball, so [lacrosse] him down and the game is over.
That kid played in a 2023 B tournament and parents thought he was a stud. Crazy
91 Florida played 2022 bracket with a team made up of mostly 2024's and 2023's. Not good? Unless your son played on Express North, then you have nothing to say. The kids helmets were waist high on the ENTIRE Express North Team and the Briarcliff aka PrimeTime squad.
just walk next door and confront him again. He hasn't learned his lesson yet
91 Florida AKA USPA Titans lacrosse!
Lol! Titans have never been know for being classy! That kid always plays for that team (and any other team, even 2023’s). The mom is a real piece of work. This is nothing new. Even still, that team is not good. The kid in question has never passed the ball, so [lacrosse] him down and the game is over.
I know some parents whose kids play on more than one child team! I have to post about it!!!! With lots of punctuation!!!!?????!!! (The punctuation makes me smarter than the average unregistered user on this forum). I spend my days in a child sports forum, but then I call people names. Insults and lots of punctuation!!!!!
Anyone know when the Blatant schedule comes out?
Anyone know when the Blatant schedule comes out?
Just check tourney machine. They get it posted usually by Wednesday the week of.
You means 2021s, 2020s even a 2019
Anyone know when the Blatant schedule comes out?
Just check tourney machine. They get it posted usually by Wednesday the week of.
The schedules are up. Love the home cooking scheduling. Four of those teams don't belong in the North bracket - and the pirates play two of them.
I don't know why they wouldn't just make the ECC and NE10 divisions and shuffle them to A and AA. If I was setting up a competitive tourney I would maybe consider Three Village, Express Saracino, Hitmen and Schwalje should be in their own bracket. And the 6 AA be the other. But that's just me being pragmatic.
Did you ever think that maybe some of those teams want to play the th AA teams? It's the fall. Who cares. It's just to test yourselves.
Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
You means 2021s, 2020s even a 2019
Want to embarrass your holdback team. Check the photo of the the Predators team on their Instagram page. More 2024's on that team than 23's or 22's. Express North had the age groups you're talking about
I think the guy was joking. It was obvious that the Florida team had young kids playing up.
This nonsense exists here on Long Island only. Adults calling kids names and d*ck measuring night after night. 1700+ viewing this forum right now at midnight. No life? No job? Just fight about kiddy sports all day? My team is better than your team. You don't play lax, your kids do and they would disown you as parents if they put the keystroke logger on your phone instead of the other way around. Congratulations for ruining this sport for everyone. Congratulations on alienating families whose kids wear a different uniform than your kid. Even worse, for alienating team members because their kid out works your kid. It's all nonsense. Anyone with a life laughs at you people.
I put my money on Express Channy to win the Blatant!
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Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
Why
would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
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Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
Why
would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
In absence of any other context, maybe. But, if you've got parents that think they're boys are way better than they really are, and you have been dealing with that for a while to no avail, the above approach sometimes is the only thing that gets the point through! Considering the over involvement of LI lax parents and the level of that on display on these boards day in, day out, is it really surprising to anyone that this is necessary sometimes?!
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Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
Why
would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
In absence of any other context, maybe. But, if you've got parents that think they're boys are way better than they really are, and you have been dealing with that for a while to no avail, the above approach sometimes is the only thing that gets the point through! Considering the over involvement of LI lax parents and the level of that on display on these boards day in, day out, is it really surprising to anyone that this is necessary sometimes?!
So satisfy the needs of the few at the expense of the many? Kinda odd, but my opinion.
Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a ridiculous statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are within your skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
In absence of any other context, maybe. But, if you've got parents that think their boys are way better than they really are, and you have been dealing with that for a while to no avail, the above approach sometimes is the only thing that gets the point through! Considering the over involvement of LI lax parents and the level of that on display on these boards day in, day out, is it really surprising to anyone that this is necessary sometimes?!
"Stay in your lane" - really - are you THAT afraid that your son might lose to one of these teams that you think doesn't belong? Or let me guess, your son's team didn't make the playoffs in a fall tournament because all the other teams in his division team blew out the "team that didn't belong" and your son's team had a tough schedule - is that it?
Get a grip, pal. What happens when the team that doesn't belong is crushing all the teams in the B division and they need to step up to face "real" competition -- like you said, "that 15-2 game isn't helping either team."
Hopefully the tournament organizers do as good a job putting teams into the divisions that they belong in -- and if you keep going to tournaments where the host gets a ridiculously easy schedule compared to everyone else, either suck it up or tell your organization that you don't want to go back to that tournament. There are hundreds of tournaments each year within a five hour drive from Long Island and I'm sure you can find one that fits your the talent level of your son's team that doesn't give the organizers three games against B- teams while you have to play AA (or AAA if you're from Maryland) teams.
So what if their not crushing all of the b teams in there division and quite the contrary then what "pal" haha!
So what if their not crushing all of the b teams in there division and quite the contrary then what "pal" haha!
Wow, between the spelling and lack of punctuation, I had to read this three times to figure out what he was saying...
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Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
Why
would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
In absence of any other context, maybe. But, if you've got parents that think they're boys are way better than they really are, and you have been dealing with that for a while to no avail, the above approach sometimes is the only thing that gets the point through! Considering the over involvement of LI lax parents and the level of that on display on these boards day in, day out, is it really surprising to anyone that this is necessary sometimes?!
So satisfy the needs of the few at the expense of the many? Kinda odd, but my opinion.
My son was part of a team where a majority of the parents needed this to point to be made....
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Why would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
Why
would they want to play those teams?just to say their playing the best teams in that age group?
Doesn't do any good for the coaches or the kids..
What kid or coach wants to get beat 15-1
What do u learn from that? The only teams that can hang with the top teams are those top teams..
As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams.
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane..
In absence of any other context, maybe. But, if you've got parents that think they're boys are way better than they really are, and you have been dealing with that for a while to no avail, the above approach sometimes is the only thing that gets the point through! Considering the over involvement of LI lax parents and the level of that on display on these boards day in, day out, is it really surprising to anyone that this is necessary sometimes?!
So satisfy the needs of the few at the expense of the many? Kinda odd, but my opinion.
My son was part of a team where a majority of the parents needed this to point to be made....
Play competition to prove a point? I understand one side of it, but means don't and never will justify the ends. So I respectfully disagree. Try being the best at one level for a season, show off your success and build towards taking the next step. I can tell from where I sit, its not good business and you'll never attract talent by getting blown out. Those brackets this weekend are so poorly configured, I don't blame Blatant, because I am sure teams asked to be in the top bracket? That just removed an opportunity for the next tier of teams to face off and win at appropriate level. Sadly, it could have worked out.
Accept the landscape has changed and they'll never be a single tier team like Crush. The lax scene has exploded and there is now a legitimate number of elite teams on LI and we know who they are. The newest one is Igloo B and it took two full years to develop. If you are not one of these 5 or 6 teams you shouldn't play them until you beat everyone below them, especially to prove a point. This is my opinion and I like I said I understand it a bit, but strongly disagree.
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As a coach, sometimes it helps us set expectations for parents and kids to see how far you need to go to be able to compete with the top teams. [/quote]
That's a redicoulis statement..as a coach you want to go into a game you know you can't win, have the boys get defeated all to show the parents that there not good enough?? ..hmm..how about playing challenging games against teams that are with in you skill level..that 15-2 game isn't helping either team..here's a good idea: stay in your lane.[/quote]
So satisfy the needs of the few at the expense of the many? Kinda odd, but my opinion.[/quote]
My son was part of a team where a majority of the parents needed this to point to be made.... [/quote]
Play competition to prove a point? I understand one side of it, but means don't and never will justify the ends. So I respectfully disagree. Try being the best at one level for a season, show off your success and build towards taking the next step. I can tell from where I sit, its not good business and you'll never attract talent by getting blown out. Those brackets this weekend are so poorly configured, I don't blame Blatant, because I am sure teams asked to be in the top bracket? That just removed an opportunity for the next tier of teams to face off and win at appropriate level. Sadly, it could have worked out.
Accept the landscape has changed and they'll never be a single tier team like Crush. The lax scene has exploded and there is now a legitimate number of elite teams on LI and we know who they are. The newest one is Igloo B and it took two full years to develop. If you are not one of these 5 or 6 teams you shouldn't play them until you beat everyone below them, especially to prove a point. This is my opinion and I like I said I understand it a bit, but strongly disagree.[/quote]
Getting blown out in one tournament, a fall tournament no less, will have zero impact on the team/players/parents if it is a one-time thing, done to make a point or otherwise. That was what the OP stated - it was done to make a point.
Time to move on. Next topic.
You people are crazy, your either complaining that teams need to stop playing B and step up and play A or now what are you saying how dare you play "A" when your a "B" team. My belief is worry about your own team not what a so called B team is doing. Maybe the other 16 kids on Channy AA will be able to get in the game against one of the so called B teams. Also maybe some players at the bottom of AA rosters will notice that one of the so called B teams is not that bad and think about coming to try out the following season. Could bring the pack close together.
You people are crazy, your either complaining that teams need to stop playing B and step up and play A or now what are you saying how dare you play "A" when your a "B" team. My belief is worry about your own team not what a so called B team is doing. Maybe the other 16 kids on Channy AA will be able to get in the game against one of the so called B teams. Also maybe some players at the bottom of AA rosters will notice that one of the so called B teams is not that bad and think about coming to try out the following season. Could bring the pack close together.
I don't think people are complaining as much as just disagreeing that a statement was made that playing up was prove a point to some parents and players. Try communicating honestly with parents, if they disagree they are free to explore the 50 other teams on LI.
If you look at your kids ability honestly, there’s a place for everyone to play competitively
So what if their not crushing all of the b teams in there division and quite the contrary then what "pal" haha!
Wow, between the spelling and lack of punctuation, I had to read this three times to figure out what he was saying...
only a woman would point out spelling and grammatical errors..that's cute..now go clean the dishes or get your mustache waxed the men are talking.thanks love.
So what if their not crushing all of the b teams in there division and quite the contrary then what "pal" haha!
Wow, between the spelling and lack of punctuation, I had to read this three times to figure out what he was saying...
only a woman would point out spelling and grammatical errors..that's cute..now go clean the dishes or get your mustache waxed the men are talking.thanks love.
Nope - I have no issues with typos here and there, but when you can barely figure out what is being said, I will point it out. IE, what's the point of posting basically a gibberish post?! Are you offended because it's your post?? If not, why do you care??!
Legacy and Outlaws will surprise tomorrow. They are both AA teams and will upset Igloo and Express tomorrow. Just my thoughts.
Legacy and Outlaws will surprise tomorrow. They are both AA teams and will upset Igloo and Express tomorrow. Just my thoughts.
This is fron the old SNLSkits. Deep thoughts by jack handy. Funny but not realistic.
love how the pequin waddled on to the field ..way to stay classy penguin..Igloo and shady company got spanked!! By Express
Haha!
Based on what I saw today. Express and Igloo A are true A teams. Large drop off but Outlaws, Legacy and Igloo B are very solid B+ teams. Another large fro off for the others. Not sure where 91 fits in
How about the display of class displayed by the express parents and players and the Igloo parents and players. Brawl between the players and almost a brawl between the parents. If you two teams are tops in the grade you can have that title. The kids and parents both acted like jerks. Don't care how it started and who is right and wrong. It's 8 grade lax. WHO CARES. Adults acting like thugs. Kids too. Both teams and parents should be ashamed. CLASSLESS.
love how the pequin waddled on to the field ..way to stay classy penguin..Igloo and shady company got spanked!! By Express
Haha!
Was there really a fight between parents??
Based on what I saw today. Express and Igloo A are true A teams. Large drop off but Outlaws, Legacy and Igloo B are very solid B+ teams. Another large fro off for the others. Not sure where 91 fits in
I think those two teams are just so good. And yes, it will be interesting to see where 91 is. But I suspect they'll be right there. I honestly don't see those any teams on LI challenging them. In fact, I see the next group of teams all converging. Teams like Empire A, the Hitmen, True Blue, etc catching up with the Outlaws, Legacy and Igloo B. The single A tier will be competitive and fun to watch.
Unbelievable that Igloo cheats with its FOGO playing with an illegal shaft and officials don’t enforce a penalty.
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
Unbelievable that Igloo cheats with its FOGO playing with an illegal shaft and officials don’t enforce a penalty.
That's silly. Express won, they played great, and should be proud. Both igloo and express dominated everyone else, the teams below them dominated the teams below and so on
How about the display of class displayed by the express parents and players and the Igloo parents and players. Brawl between the players and almost a brawl between the parents. If you two teams are tops in the grade you can have that title. The kids and parents both acted like jerks. Don't care how it started and who is right and wrong. It's 8 grade lax. WHO CARES. Adults acting like thugs. Kids too. Both teams and parents should be ashamed. CLASSLESS.
I don't think anyone was happy with what happened. A bad penalty followed by a bad retaliation. A parent name calling a child should expect a retaliation from the other parent. That being said , the reason these 2 teams are as good as they are is in large part because of their competitiveness . So don't worry about handing either team any titles..they don't need your help.Hopefully players and parents alike will learn from the experience and move on.
Unbelievable that Igloo cheats with its FOGO playing with an illegal shaft and officials don’t enforce a penalty.
That's silly. Express won, they played great, and should be proud. Both igloo and express dominated everyone else, the teams below them dominated the teams below and so on
I wouldn't say the teams below them, etc. The top two flexed their stuff and they will not lose to another LI team. 91 is unknown at this point, but I am sure they will be vying for a seat at the table with the top 2 on the Island. The rest will all converge. Because kids will catch-up with skill, maturity and overall development as we enter these HS years after the summer. Parents just be patient with your team. If you are getting good coaching and the coaches are always looking to add to improve and have connections to get into the right tourneys - all will be good for Sept. 1st 2020.
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
You lost twice and got beat up so shut your mouth
How about the display of class displayed by the express parents and players and the Igloo parents and players. Brawl between the players and almost a brawl between the parents. If you two teams are tops in the grade you can have that title. The kids and parents both acted like jerks. Don't care how it started and who is right and wrong. It's 8 grade lax. WHO CARES. Adults acting like thugs. Kids too. Both teams and parents should be ashamed. CLASSLESS.
Oh please - I'm sure if either team offers your kid a spot you'll be the first to join these classless organizations.
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
figures that igloo would attempt to ignore the fact that its player intentionally cheated by cutting the stick to a length that is against the rules of the game. keep teaching the kids how to get ahead in life that will do wonders for the whole crew
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
figures that igloo would attempt to ignore the fact that its player intentionally cheated by cutting the stick to a length that is against the rules of the game. keep teaching the kids how to get ahead in life that will do wonders for the whole crew
What was the length of the illegal stick?
the fight was because the parent called the kid AND their father what they are. Everyone knows what they are, the parent was just saying a fact, not sure why they took offense to something that's widely known...
the fight was because the parent called the kid AND their father what they are. Everyone knows what they are, the parent was just saying a fact, not sure why they took offense to something that's widely known...
So what are they?? Do tell....
What is an illegal shaft? Typical equipment violations relate to the head on faceoffs, not the shaft. Not even sure what advantage you could get with a shaft that violates rules.
What is it that is widely known?
What is an illegal shaft? Typical equipment violations relate to the head on faceoffs, not the shaft. Not even sure what advantage you could get with a shaft that violates rules.
Are you a news reporter? If so, go read the USL rules. You don’t have to be sure what advantage you could get to understand that cheating is cheating. A pocket develops to be too deep > can happen. The head gets pinched over time > maybe. Intentionally cutting the shaft to a illigal length is premeditated and simply cheating the game and every other player that you are supposed to fairly compete against. All Igloo games today should have resulted in losses. And the fact that the officials did not penalize the player and the team is a joke.
The Panda kid for LI Express is an awesome FOGO. Sounds like the Igloo kid cheated to compete.
I wasn't there but that's what I read. Now that being said using a long pole on Panda and hitting him right after face off is legal and works, saw it at NLF a year ago.
We are all sure that igloo will be studying film of all 2022 lacrosse games for the last two years and finding new ways to cheat.
love how the pequin waddled on to the field ..way to stay classy penguin..Igloo and shady company got spanked!! By Express
Haha!
penguin is a complete insecure ***hole! he is a cancer, he ruined igloo ws team and he will ruin artic blast! only a matter of time mark my words!
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
figures that igloo would attempt to ignore the fact that its player intentionally cheated by cutting the stick to a length that is against the rules of the game. keep teaching the kids how to get ahead in life that will do wonders for the whole crew
Express face off kid was excellent....why didn't that kid for Express for the World Series Games? Is he new to the team this year?
Are you serious? Channy recruits players after every game. Calls kids parents after every tournament. My kid included. A roster of 37 and counting. No thank you. But crazy parents like you think winning is the most important thing. Jokes on 3/4 of the kids that never see the field. But I guess you will always have those great 7/8 grade championship memories. As for igloo, that sideline is bad. Parents are not normal people.
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
figures that igloo would attempt to ignore the fact that its player intentionally cheated by cutting the stick to a length that is against the rules of the game. keep teaching the kids how to get ahead in life that will do wonders for the whole crew
Express face off kid was excellent....why didn't that kid for Express for the World Series Games? Is he new to the team this year?
Stop all ready express little Faceoff dude takes a dive or fakes an injury every time he losses the clamp. Move folks.
figures that igloo would attempt to ignore the fact that its player intentionally cheated by cutting the stick to a length that is against the rules of the game. keep teaching the kids how to get ahead in life that will do wonders for the whole crew
Express face off kid was excellent....why didn't that kid for Express for the World Series Games? Is he new to the team this year?
He was too old...
My question is instead ejecting players for the bench clearing brawl, for lack of a better term, why were both teams not ejected from the tournament? No excuse for 13 year old players leaving the sidelines to fight. Both coaching staffs should also be held responsible for the actions of their players. Shame on Express and Igloo for the actions of their players and shame on Blatant Lacrosse for not kicking both teams out of the Tournament.
My question is instead ejecting players for the bench clearing brawl, for lack of a better term, why were both teams not ejected from the tournament? No excuse for 13 year old players leaving the sidelines to fight. Both coaching staffs should also be held responsible for the actions of their players. Shame on Express and Igloo for the actions of their players and shame on Blatant Lacrosse for not kicking both teams out of the Tournament.
And shame on you for passing judgment on a situation when you weren't even there! My question for you is...why do you care so much that you felt the need to go sit yourself behind your computer and type that? Like anyone cares what you think. There were only a couple kids that lost their tempers and should have been ejected, the other boys were trying to help get things under control. 2-3 parents were yelling at each other and other parents made sure to stay between them to make sure it didn't escalate further. It was a dust up that ended as quick as it started . The boys went on to play really good lacrosse that game and in the final. Congrats to Express on a great day.
My question is instead ejecting players for the bench clearing brawl, for lack of a better term, why were both teams not ejected from the tournament? No excuse for 13 year old players leaving the sidelines to fight. Both coaching staffs should also be held responsible for the actions of their players. Shame on Express and Igloo for the actions of their players and shame on Blatant Lacrosse for not kicking both teams out of the Tournament.
Igloo player blindsided a defenseless player after the whistle was blown, a crosscheck to an Express players spine
And just to set the record straight Express--you are lucky parents intervened and stopped the fight from escalating...I 'll leave it at that. It would've been a bloodbath--stick to yelling at the defenseless refs...
And just to set the record straight Express--you are lucky parents intervened and stopped the fight from escalating...I 'll leave it at that. It would've been a bloodbath--stick to yelling at the defenseless refs...
OMG - internet machismo muscles! You are a cartoon!
I am absolutely sure that all of the Express parents are now reconsidering their past and future sideline behavior, all because of your post. LMFAO!
You are funny, hysterical! Your kids took a beating, go back and watch the film.
Another anonymous tough guy...You must buy tickets to MMA events...Loser
My question is instead ejecting players for the bench clearing brawl, for lack of a better term, why were both teams not ejected from the tournament? No excuse for 13 year old players leaving the sidelines to fight. Both coaching staffs should also be held responsible for the actions of their players. Shame on Express and Igloo for the actions of their players and shame on Blatant Lacrosse for not kicking both teams out of the Tournament.
Blatant sucks. There operations is a joke. The S Huntington library fields had no balls on the endlines and no nets to keep all the people safe from flying balls. Pitbulls on the field, etc.
My question is instead ejecting players for the bench clearing brawl, for lack of a better term, why were both teams not ejected from the tournament? No excuse for 13 year old players leaving the sidelines to fight. Both coaching staffs should also be held responsible for the actions of their players. Shame on Express and Igloo for the actions of their players and shame on Blatant Lacrosse for not kicking both teams out of the Tournament.
Igloo player blindsided a defenseless player after the whistle was blown, a crosscheck to an Express players spine
False..it was the other way around
And just to set the record straight Express--you are lucky parents intervened and stopped the fight from escalating...I 'll leave it at that. It would've been a bloodbath--stick to yelling at the defenseless refs...
no way that's an Igloo parent
I WAS THERE, and I watched it with my own eyes! My son plays hockey and if the benches clear, the game is called and both teams are kicked out of the tournament. Also, I never passed judgement, these are 13 and in some cases 14 year old boys who are going to make mistakes and need to be taught that there is consequences for those actions. I stated that both teams should have been ejected for leaving the sidelines and it is the coaches responsibility to keep the players on the sideline. It honestly does not make either Club look good. They are the 2 best teams on Long Island and both are top 4 teams in the Country. There was no need for either cheap shot, the first by the Express boy which drew the flag and whistle and the retaliatory after the whistle cheap shot by the Igloo player. This highlights the problem with youth lacrosse and USA Lacrosse. In Hockey both players and their coaches would be suspended for a long time and both teams would have been tossed from the tournament. Honestly Blatant drop the ball big time.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
I WAS THERE, and I watched it with my own eyes! My son plays hockey and if the benches clear, the game is called and both teams are kicked out of the tournament. Also, I never passed judgement, these are 13 and in some cases 14 year old boys who are going to make mistakes and need to be taught that there is consequences for those actions. I stated that both teams should have been ejected for leaving the sidelines and it is the coaches responsibility to keep the players on the sideline. It honestly does not make either Club look good. They are the 2 best teams on Long Island and both are top 4 teams in the Country. There was no need for either cheap shot, the first by the Express boy which drew the flag and whistle and the retaliatory after the whistle cheap shot by the Igloo player. This highlights the problem with youth lacrosse and USA Lacrosse. In Hockey both players and their coaches would be suspended for a long time and both teams would have been tossed from the tournament. Honestly Blatant drop the ball big time.
They sure did... it is clearly stated in bullet 3 of their tournament rules. Hopefully Blatant will learn from this and enforce in the future.
General Youth Tournament Rules
Mouth Guards, Arm Pads and Shoulder Pads Required
Penalty time will be kept by refs (Man-Up/Man-Down)
Any fighting/flagrant disrespect towards an official will result in expulsion from the tournament
Games consist of 2- 20 minute running time game – 1 minute half time to switch sides, 4 minutes between games.
Time will be kept on field.
No timeouts in last 5 minutes. 1 Timeout per game.
No Dogs allowed
No Barbeques allowed
Concessions/Vendor Village will be present
EMT/First Aid will be present
3 Points for Win, 1 Point for Tie
Tie Game= 2 minute Braveheart 3 v 3
Tiebreakers- Points, Head to Head, Goal Differential, Goals Against
All Grades- Man Up/Man Down (Can play fast breaks if both teams agree (2/3 Grade)
No Clearing time, but 4 second goalie rule applies
NO TAKE OUT CHECKS
Horns available upon coaches requests for substitutions
MERCY RULE: If team is trailing by 6 goals they have OPTION to take the ball
Long poles are allowed at ALL ages
Unless otherwise stated Blatant tournaments will follow NFHS rules
DISPUTES: All disputes to be resolved by the rules committee and decisions are FINAL
I WAS THERE, and I watched it with my own eyes! My son plays hockey and if the benches clear, the game is called and both teams are kicked out of the tournament. Also, I never passed judgement, these are 13 and in some cases 14 year old boys who are going to make mistakes and need to be taught that there is consequences for those actions. I stated that both teams should have been ejected for leaving the sidelines and it is the coaches responsibility to keep the players on the sideline. It honestly does not make either Club look good. They are the 2 best teams on Long Island and both are top 4 teams in the Country. There was no need for either cheap shot, the first by the Express boy which drew the flag and whistle and the retaliatory after the whistle cheap shot by the Igloo player. This highlights the problem with youth lacrosse and USA Lacrosse. In Hockey both players and their coaches would be suspended for a long time and both teams would have been tossed from the tournament. Honestly Blatant drop the ball big time.
Refereeing in hockey is much more controlled, both in terms of the refs themselves as well as the rule book they use for in game control and resulting protocol for situations like what happened in this game. This is just another example of where USAL is very weak governing organization versus USAH - there are a myriad of problems the sport of lacrosse has with a vacuum at the "top". The sport will continue to have problems, amplified by the growth in participation. USAL either needs to step up, or an alternative organization/body should start up. Lacrosse needs to look to what other youth sports have already experienced and matured forward from - there is nothign unique about lacrosse that makes it different or immune from the issues other sports have already successfully dealt with.
Whoever said "There were only a couple kids that lost their tempers and should have been ejected, the other boys were trying to help get things under control." Are you saying 13 old boys left the bench to help get things under control. Players should not be allowed to leave the bench. The end. Kids get into it on the field fine, it's a physical game. Leaving the bench crosses a line. The NBA got that right.
"And just to set the record straight Express--you are lucky parents intervened and stopped the fight from escalating...I 'll leave it at that. It would've been a bloodbath--stick to yelling at the defenseless refs..."
"no way that's an Igloo parent"
Wishful thinking, but you are right, it could've come from an Express parent just as easily...
The Panda kid for LI Express is an awesome FOGO. Sounds like the Igloo kid cheated to compete.
I wasn't there but that's what I read. Now that being said using a long pole on Panda and hitting him right after face off is legal and works, saw it at NLF a year ago.
After the Igloo FO player loses a FO or two, he will start using a key-holed CEO or Dictator head that do not meet the width requirements. The little Igloo FOGO AND the little Express FOGO BOTH intentionally use pinched heads that do not meet regulation if they start losing FOs. I have watched them both rotate these sticks into multiple games after a loss or two and you can see how pinched they are from the sidelines. A short shaft is an advantage for a short player because they are less likely to bang the butt-end on the ground when they are changing hands or getting trail checked by taller players. On GBs it is easier to shield from checks. Illegal is illegal. 40"
no Igloo player OR express player left the bench
Marshawn Lynch did!
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
my son's stick got taken away at a Middle School game for being under 40 inches.
I WAS THERE, and I watched it with my own eyes! My son plays hockey and if the benches clear, the game is called and both teams are kicked out of the tournament. Also, I never passed judgement, these are 13 and in some cases 14 year old boys who are going to make mistakes and need to be taught that there is consequences for those actions. I stated that both teams should have been ejected for leaving the sidelines and it is the coaches responsibility to keep the players on the sideline. It honestly does not make either Club look good. They are the 2 best teams on Long Island and both are top 4 teams in the Country. There was no need for either cheap shot, the first by the Express boy which drew the flag and whistle and the retaliatory after the whistle cheap shot by the Igloo player. This highlights the problem with youth lacrosse and USA Lacrosse. In Hockey both players and their coaches would be suspended for a long time and both teams would have been tossed from the tournament. Honestly Blatant drop the ball big time.
They sure did... it is clearly stated in bullet 3 of their tournament rules. Hopefully Blatant will learn from this and enforce in the future.
Post the video.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Most Tournaments either use NFHS or NCAA rules and specify modifications to those rules as needed. So yes, stick rules apply to all tournaments.
Channy has no control over that team. He let's his select 2 run the show. Afraid to get on their parents bad side. The $$ might stop. Express parents rip the penguin but they have the same deal with one of their fathers. He was one of instigators yesterday.
Express is just fine with its past, present and future success.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
I WAS THERE, and I watched it with my own eyes! My son plays hockey and if the benches clear, the game is called and both teams are kicked out of the tournament. Also, I never passed judgement, these are 13 and in some cases 14 year old boys who are going to make mistakes and need to be taught that there is consequences for those actions. I stated that both teams should have been ejected for leaving the sidelines and it is the coaches responsibility to keep the players on the sideline. It honestly does not make either Club look good. They are the 2 best teams on Long Island and both are top 4 teams in the Country. There was no need for either cheap shot, the first by the Express boy which drew the flag and whistle and the retaliatory after the whistle cheap shot by the Igloo player. This highlights the problem with youth lacrosse and USA Lacrosse. In Hockey both players and their coaches would be suspended for a long time and both teams would have been tossed from the tournament. Honestly Blatant drop the ball big time.
can you please define a long time?
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Newsflash: Blatant follows NFHS rules. NFHS rule states that the crosse shall be a minimun overall fixed length of 40. Also, USL and NFHS have a partnership and are in a process of aligning to standardize rules.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Who cares - as stated above, from the tourney rules:
"Unless otherwise stated Blatant tournaments will follow NFHS rules"
The Panda kid for LI Express is an awesome FOGO. Sounds like the Igloo kid cheated to compete.
I wasn't there but that's what I read. Now that being said using a long pole on Panda and hitting him right after face off is legal and works, saw it at NLF a year ago.
After the Igloo FO player loses a FO or two, he will start using a key-holed CEO or Dictator head that do not meet the width requirements. The little Igloo FOGO AND the little Express FOGO BOTH intentionally use pinched heads that do not meet regulation if they start losing FOs. I have watched them both rotate these sticks into multiple games after a loss or two and you can see how pinched they are from the sidelines. A short shaft is an advantage for a short player because they are less likely to bang the butt-end on the ground when they are changing hands or getting trail checked by taller players. On GBs it is easier to shield from checks. Illegal is illegal. 40"
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Panda kid for LI Express is an awesome FOGO. Sounds like the Igloo kid cheated to compete.
Dude, get a hobby. Borderline obsessed. They are 13 years old. Watch your kid and enjoy the game instead of being fixated on what stick some other kid uses.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Please provide the information.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Not talking about NFHS?? I am talking about the US Lacrosse comment, try to keep up. You know US lacrosse, that enity that a lot seem not to recognize. I guess its because they favor are age based structure.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Please provide the information.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Not talking about NFHS?? I am talking about the US Lacrosse comment, try to keep up. You know US lacrosse, that enity that a lot seem not to recognize. I guess its because they favor are age based structure.
Debating the USAL comment is moot when the NFHS rules are in use . . . why bother?!
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Please provide the information.
Such a shame this is the discussion. It sadly happens in sports, move on and focus on all the great lax that was played. This was a combo A and AA bracket and their a lot teams improving. Leads to me to a question? Why don't kids not playing in those high pressure games just move to an A team? I hear you on the practice argument if practice on another team is balls being dropped etc..., but there is a lot talent and very good coaching on the next tier of teams. Because bench shortening is fine in a championshup game, but no play I don't understand. I like to hear honestly from somebody who disagrees with that has a kid that is practice player and sees the field in blowouts.
Not sure if you know but unless you are specifically playing high school rules there are not rules around stick length or for that matter what you can do with the lacrosse head. Not saying what happened is right but this is youth lacrosse. Unless the tournament specify NHS rules or even for more clarity state their own than it is open game. I have seen way to many kids, NON FOGO, play with short sticks, Larger than needed pockets, and heads strung that would ne penalties in HS. WHY [lacrosse] about something that kids on every team at the youth level do.. If it is such a concern, your teams should play in only tournaments that follow true HS level rules.
Page 97 of the 2017 US Lacrosse Youth Boys Rulebook where it states that the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches and the maximum overall stick length is 42 inches, for 14U.
Since when does US Lacrosse apply? Lol, really? We would playing age based if it did. These are independent tourneys non sanctioned by any higher body of rules.
Please don’t provide any more misinformation. Blatant follows nfhs rules. Page 27 of nfhs rulebook states the minimum overall stick length is 40 inches.
Not talking about NFHS?? I am talking about the US Lacrosse comment, try to keep up. You know US lacrosse, that enity that a lot seem not to recognize. I guess its because they favor are age based structure.
actually you are wrong on multiple points because nfhs is the body of rules that blatant follows. now read slowing and pay close attention - us lacrosse and nfhs have a partnership and or affiliation:
US Lacrosse is proud of its partnership and affiliation with its national and international organizations that help to enhance the lacrosse experience through their contributions to the sport.
The National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) authors rules for high school boys’ lacrosse. For 2017, US Lacrosse has produced a stand-alone youth rule book for ages 14U and below.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
I for one was a bit disappointed that the gap didn't close a bit and if anything it looked worse than last year. Usually it begins to do so by now.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
Whoa......2 posts that make sense!
The Panda kid for LI Express is an awesome FOGO. Sounds like the Igloo kid cheated to compete.
I wasn't there but that's what I read. Now that being said using a long pole on Panda and hitting him right after face off is legal and works, saw it at NLF a year ago.
After the Igloo FO player loses a FO or two, he will start using a key-holed CEO or Dictator head that do not meet the width requirements. The little Igloo FOGO AND the little Express FOGO BOTH intentionally use pinched heads that do not meet regulation if they start losing FOs. I have watched them both rotate these sticks into multiple games after a loss or two and you can see how pinched they are from the sidelines. A short shaft is an advantage for a short player because they are less likely to bang the butt-end on the ground when they are changing hands or getting trail checked by taller players. On GBs it is easier to shield from checks. Illegal is illegal. 40"
Thanks for the explanation. Dont know the Igloo FOGO just know the Express one kicks [lacrosse].
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
Annapolis Hawks would compete and beat both more often then they lose IMO.
91 2022 is step down from Igloo and Express IMO.
Again that's just my opinion.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
I for one was a bit disappointed that the gap didn't close a bit and if anything it looked worse than last year. Usually it begins to do so by now.
Agreed 7th & 8th is when the kids start to mature and catch up and the gaps close.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
I for one was a bit disappointed that the gap didn't close a bit and if anything it looked worse than last year. Usually it begins to do so by now.
Agreed 7th & 8th is when the kids start to mature and catch up and the gaps close.
The dynamic is changing and these teams are getting the best players. Plus, they are shorting the bench in the big games. That's why you may see a tight game or two, it's really not a gap closing, it's playing time balance on the roster. I.E., I sure that teams #4-6 starters on the Island can easily beat teams #1-3 bottom half of the roster. My older son in the 2018s had a completely different experience at this age. Recruiting was starting and a lot of the teams began to creep backwards as interest wasn't as high because the best players were recruited and HS was the focus. Now you have to stay with your club through Jr. year. The clubs are loving the new recruiting rules. And, I am of the opinion that not all clubs are created equal. An established club because (I believe) will get you into the better events (team and Individual). In the end, there will be 100s of this class recruited, but you don't have to be on an elite team, that makes exposure easier. But imho i think it's better to be with an established club.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
Far worse than this is the disparate ages of the kids competing, in a system where age is irrelevant. I have had multiple kids play and never once have I ever been asked for their age or DOB, and for that matter, proof of their grade. What the movers and shakers of travel lacrosse don't get is that this lack of age enforcement (or indeed, the lack of age even being relevant) drives people away. Travel hockey, which is fanatical in its age enforcement, has a much deeper pool of competitive levels, and therefore, paying customers, because once you ensure the kids are similar in age, you can do much more in terms of subdividing based on skill and athleticism.
One thing is for sure. There is a big gap in this age between the top 2 and the rest. 91 will likely fall closer to the top 2 once they play. But everyone else is going to tighten up below this AA tier. That's not to say all the other teams aren't good, it's just those top 2 or 3 are really freaking good.
My biggest complaint about youth lacrosse after watching this over many years, with my three boys in varying classes: that there are almost always a (small) bunch of very good teams at the top but then the next GROUP down is treated like pariahs - the "everyone else is B" crowd, if you will. Your assessment is a better, objective take on this: there are the AA, and then there are A teams, and then B etc.
Far worse than this is the disparate ages of the kids competing, in a system where age is irrelevant. I have had multiple kids play and never once have I ever been asked for their age or DOB, and for that matter, proof of their grade. What the movers and shakers of travel lacrosse don't get is that this lack of age enforcement (or indeed, the lack of age even being relevant) drives people away. Travel hockey, which is fanatical in its age enforcement, has a much deeper pool of competitive levels, and therefore, paying customers, because once you ensure the kids are similar in age, you can do much more in terms of subdividing based on skill and athleticism.
Yes, the age thing is my second biggest complaint, and it is largely a driver as to why tourneys and teams are unable to properly 'position' themselves. Hockey has done all of the heavy lifting here, so USL wouldn't have to do much more than 'steal' their model, other than with a few tweaks here and there (you can do away with the player-team exclusivity, for one).
US Lacrosse and NXT events have this in motion. Already looks like Igloo has participated in qualifier tournaments and will be making a run at this summer’s age-based national tournament.
US Lacrosse and NXT events have this in motion. Already looks like Igloo has participated in qualifier tournaments and will be making a run at this summer’s age-based national tournament.
It's in August in Delaware and its U12, U13, U14.
https://www.uslacrossenationals.com/qualification-events-and-scoring
August events are almost like post season - teams are already holding tryouts by then. Until we see meaningful age-based tournaments between May and July, it won't be taking hold. That said, I guess you have to start somewhere...
2022 will be able to play in a U14 tourney ??
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.
Exactly - USL can force the issue by revoking insurance for all non-age-based play. The counter that will be the defections from USL and that tournaments can secure insurance on their own. I think that would be short-sighted by teams and tourneys to perpetuate a grade-based system for no other reason than that it is the status quo (there is zero rationale for grade-based play beyond that).
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.
Exactly - USL can force the issue by revoking insurance for all non-age-based play. The counter that will be the defections from USL and that tournaments can secure insurance on their own. I think that would be short-sighted by teams and tourneys to perpetuate a grade-based system for no other reason than that it is the status quo (there is zero rationale for grade-based play beyond that).
Agree
Will it FALL BRAWL 2 today at Mitchell field? Igloo vs express again. Will the 2 opposing fogo's get back to their cheating ways? Igloo facing off with a fiddle stick, express taking a dive EVERY TIME he lises. Lots of drama. Can't wait. Penguin vs Italian stallion(Manhasset daddy who never stops whining to the ref about his attack son). How many of the 40 express players see the field in this game? Hint: it was 16 last week. Great day off 2022 lax drama!
Super 32’s are this weekend. It’s one of the biggest high school wrestling tournaments of the year. Stop talking about some bs fall tournament and go over to Flowrestling to watch it. You will witness some of the best athletes in the country battle it out competing in the toughest sport on the planet. Have your laxbro of a son watch too. Maybe it will toughen little Johnny up a bit.
Will it FALL BRAWL 2 today at Mitchell field? Igloo vs express again. Will the 2 opposing fogo's get back to their cheating ways? Igloo facing off with a fiddle stick, express taking a dive EVERY TIME he lises. Lots of drama. Can't wait. Penguin vs Italian stallion(Manhasset daddy who never stops whining to the ref about his attack son). How many of the 40 express players see the field in this game? Hint: it was 16 last week. Great day off 2022 lax drama!
Wait a second. Express goes 3-0 and whips Igloo and doesn't make the championship game in their own tourney because they were on the wrong end of the tiebreakers to Express North? Hahahahahaha!
Will it FALL BRAWL 2 today at Mitchell field? Igloo vs express again. Will the 2 opposing fogo's get back to their cheating ways? Igloo facing off with a fiddle stick, express taking a dive EVERY TIME he lises. Lots of drama. Can't wait. Penguin vs Italian stallion(Manhasset daddy who never stops whining to the ref about his attack son). How many of the 40 express players see the field in this game? Hint: it was 16 last week. Great day off 2022 lax drama!
Wait a second. Express goes 3-0 and whips Igloo and doesn't make the championship game in their own tourney because they were on the wrong end of the tiebreakers to Express North? Hahahahahaha!
Yup they set the brackets up wrong. Just have a big boy AA bracket and let the rest play A. Blatant did the same sill thing last week and it worked out, but it was close to another team backing in, for lack of a better term.
What's the difference. They are beating Igloo pretty easy now. What happened?
Will it FALL BRAWL 2 today at Mitchell field? Igloo vs express again. Will the 2 opposing fogo's get back to their cheating ways? Igloo facing off with a fiddle stick, express taking a dive EVERY TIME he lises. Lots of drama. Can't wait. Penguin vs Italian stallion(Manhasset daddy who never stops whining to the ref about his attack son). How many of the 40 express players see the field in this game? Hint: it was 16 last week. Great day off 2022 lax drama!
Wait a second. Express goes 3-0 and whips Igloo and doesn't make the championship game in their own tourney because they were on the wrong end of the tiebreakers to Express North? Hahahahahaha!
Yup they set the brackets up wrong. Just have a big boy AA bracket and let the rest play A. Blatant did the same sill thing last week and it worked out, but it was close to another team backing in, for lack of a better term.
Tough to have a true A or AA bracket without 91 and Outlaws there.
What's the difference. They are beating Igloo pretty easy now. What happened?
Not referring to the AA. There is good talent at the next level. Pros and Cons to these teams intermingling. But just my opinion I would separate them. They did for the 2023 bracket.
Will it FALL BRAWL 2 today at Mitchell field? Igloo vs express again. Will the 2 opposing fogo's get back to their cheating ways? Igloo facing off with a fiddle stick, express taking a dive EVERY TIME he lises. Lots of drama. Can't wait. Penguin vs Italian stallion(Manhasset daddy who never stops whining to the ref about his attack son). How many of the 40 express players see the field in this game? Hint: it was 16 last week. Great day off 2022 lax drama!
Wait a second. Express goes 3-0 and whips Igloo and doesn't make the championship game in their own tourney because they were on the wrong end of the tiebreakers to Express North? Hahahahahaha!
Yup they set the brackets up wrong. Just have a big boy AA bracket and let the rest play A. Blatant did the same sill thing last week and it worked out, but it was close to another team backing in, for lack of a better term.
Tough to have a true A or AA bracket without 91 and Outlaws there.
Outlaws is B but hear you about 91
Easy read dude. You’re so exposed
Express Channy and Igloo Artic the only 2AA teams there yesterday should have played 1 game 4/15min qtrs. with2 fair refs and let the rest paly for the tshirt
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Drinking the Kool Aid .Hahahahahahaa. buyer beware
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Which 2022 Express team is your son on? My son is on Schwalje and it's been a very good all around experience thus far.
It’s sad but it’s happened to many people. Live and learn.
So who won the fall brawl?
So who won the fall brawl?
Artic because Channy miscalculated.
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.
Exactly - USL can force the issue by revoking insurance for all non-age-based play. The counter that will be the defections from USL and that tournaments can secure insurance on their own. I think that would be short-sighted by teams and tourneys to perpetuate a grade-based system for no other reason than that it is the status quo (there is zero rationale for grade-based play beyond that).
The majority of parents want age-based but they don't know it's bad. But the clubs (and their tourney-running divisions) and showcases have a system based upon no age restrictions. They have no incentive to change. They are on top now and they don't intend to give up their position. Of course, it's nearsighted. Like fishermen taking too many fish now and screwing their future, they won't be the ones to sacrifice for long-term prosperity of the sport.
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
There is not one NY-based event for boys (and only for girls and that is in Lake George!), which speaks volumes to the fact that age-based play is not taking hold on LI yet. I don't see how Igloo or any other LI teams can take their regular roster if they have even one holdback/reclassed/whatever boy unless that boy or boys won't compete in those qualifying tourneys or the national tourney if they qualify. This is just like the WYSL - how do you field a grade-based team AND play in age-based tourneys without player issues?
The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.
Exactly - USL can force the issue by revoking insurance for all non-age-based play. The counter that will be the defections from USL and that tournaments can secure insurance on their own. I think that would be short-sighted by teams and tourneys to perpetuate a grade-based system for no other reason than that it is the status quo (there is zero rationale for grade-based play beyond that).
The majority of parents want age-based but they don't know it's bad. But the clubs (and their tourney-running divisions) and showcases have a system based upon no age restrictions. They have no incentive to change. They are on top now and they don't intend to give up their position. Of course, it's nearsighted. Like fishermen taking too many fish now and screwing their future, they won't be the ones to sacrifice for long-term prosperity of the sport.
It's so funny. Every comment on this topic argues for age based rules, including US lacrosse, never have a I seen a person argue for grade based. And yet we have it. Please PAL change it on your end. It will be good because nobody really values PAL as they once did. Town lax is for tourneys not meaningless boring games.
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
Most of the big boys will be in Delaware next weekend at the North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational.
Annapolis Hawks
BBl Elite
Freedom
Igloo
Iron Horse
Laxachusetts
LI Express
Legacy
Madlax Capital
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax
91 Maryland
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
What are you talking about LIE not playing Dukes this weekend.
Half of dukes is igloo and express kids, no?
Half of dukes is igloo and express kids, no?
No. No express kids ever and there are a few igloo kids, but they don't play very often.
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
Elite 80 is not a team event. Lots of kids will be there from all over the country. Hopefully The Penguin can keep his hands to himself
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
Elite 80 is not a team event. Lots of kids will be there from all over the country. Hopefully The Penguin can keep his hands to himself
So why would Igloo go to a tournament down in MD with 3/4 of the team and the all the coaches all at the Elitle 80???
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
Elite 80 is not a team event. Lots of kids will be there from all over
the country. Hopefully The Penguin can keep his hands to himself
You are such a loser. You’re really gonna bring that up again? I would love to meet you in person and tell you what a loser you are
I know LI Express 2022 will be down in MD this weekend. Does Igloo come down to temperate Mid-Atlantic during the fall? Looking forward to seeing them play the Dukes National team and some of the better clubs down south sooner rather than later.
IGLOO will all be at the Elite 80 with the Div 1 coaches on Nov 4th
Elite 80 is not a team event. Lots of kids will be there from all over
the country. Hopefully The Penguin can keep his hands to himself
You are such a loser. You’re really gonna bring that up again? I would love to meet you in person and tell you what a loser you are
How about if we stop it with the name calling.
Ever wonder why there aren't gigantic kids playing against babies in the south and in the West? Ever wonder why there is no forum wars outside of Maryland, LI, Mass? Age based teams and tournaments. Your grade based garbage is flat out cheating. Not just cheating in games. Cheating your sons from knowing how to compete fairly in life. The golden parachute won't open in real life, so cherish your t-shirts and get the psychologists on standby. Real life is full of people like you, loitering in kid sports chat rooms and comparing Barbie doll houses. You people suck at life and you're teaching your sons to be just like you. Congratulations.
Ever wonder why there aren't gigantic kids playing against babies in the south and in the West? Ever wonder why there is no forum wars outside of Maryland, LI, Mass? Age based teams and tournaments. Your grade based garbage is flat out cheating. Not just cheating in games. Cheating your sons from knowing how to compete fairly in life. The golden parachute won't open in real life, so cherish your t-shirts and get the psychologists on standby. Real life is full of people like you, loitering in kid sports chat rooms and comparing Barbie doll houses. You people suck at life and you're teaching your sons to be just like you. Congratulations.
BRAVO!!!
Madlax vs LIExpress 2024 in DE 11/11...maybe the MadLax daddies can finally STFU....I will be on the sidelines watching and chirping in your ears. you guys have been non stop for months...
Madlax vs LIExpress 2024 in DE 11/11...maybe the MadLax daddies can finally STFU....I will be on the sidelines watching and chirping in your ears. you guys have been non stop for months...
Wrong forum Ace...
Ever wonder why there aren't gigantic kids playing against babies in the south and in the West? Ever wonder why there is no forum wars outside of Maryland, LI, Mass? Age based teams and tournaments. Your grade based garbage is flat out cheating. Not just cheating in games. Cheating your sons from knowing how to compete fairly in life. The golden parachute won't open in real life, so cherish your t-shirts and get the psychologists on standby. Real life is full of people like you, loitering in kid sports chat rooms and comparing Barbie doll houses. You people suck at life and you're teaching your sons to be just like you. Congratulations.
Giants vs Babies? Ha! Now thats funny. When your little baby decides to grow up or when you let go and let him grow up then maybe he will be better off. Calling your own kid a baby?(he is obviously not a giant) The biggest kids on my sons team are the youngest and every team so far this fall has been bigger at every position..Guess you have not seen the players from Texas,California, Denver, play. And actually there is forums for all those states with the same crap on them. My son happens to be middle of the pack and gets jacked up to play every game. I don't cheat my son in anything and he earns everything he gets , vs Giants or babies. Please stop acting like every player is a cheater if he is on a team with holdbacks.OH and by the way every freaking team has them. I hope things get better for you and your baby before next year.
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Which 2022 Express team is your son on? My son is on Schwalje and it's been a very good all around experience thus far.
His kid must be on Chuck team. They got swept and looked pretty bad from what I saw. Channy only cares about top 2 teams rest of are money grab.
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Which 2022 Express team is your son on? My son is on Schwalje and it's been a very good all around experience thus far.
His kid must be on Chuck team. They got swept and looked pretty bad from what I saw. Channy only cares about top 2 teams rest of are money grab.
Ha ha, you just have a son on the "second" team. Channy cares about one team. When in the history of express has there ever been more than one A team per grade? Your son plays on the B team get over it.
Can you point me to these forums? I'd be curious to see what folks from non-hotbed areas are saying.
My "baby" plays his age and does very well. But listen Simpleton, there's a difference between a pubescent teenager and a 12 year old. Glad your son is such a king who skipped his growing years. But you've revealed yourself right here as a cheating, d@ck measuring Walmart lacky who actually believes cheating is the way. Did it work in your career? You probably think so. Good news, minimum wage goes up to $11 in January, so congrats.
My "baby" plays his age and does very well. But listen Simpleton, there's a difference between a pubescent teenager and a 12 year old. Glad your son is such a king who skipped his growing years. But you've revealed yourself right here as a cheating, d@ck measuring Walmart lacky who actually believes cheating is the way. Did it work in your career? You probably think so. Good news, minimum wage goes up to $11 in January, so congrats.
LMAO--i guess you just read between the lines or just can't read at all.If your son is 12 then you are on the wrong forum. My son who is not a baby or a giant is 13 years old(8th grade) and does happens to play on a team with holdbacks and competes just fine . He will never complain or make excuses hence he is not a cheater and never will be. I guess bashing kids and parents makes you feel better in your small world. Keep up the classy walmart minimum wage remarks towards people you don't even know.(anonymously) So , again for the 3rd time since you clearly need to be told again, not every kid that happens to play on a team with holdbacks is a cheater . The only thing revealed is you can't comprehend things the first time and clearly are a bitter sore loser. Losers are the only ones to complain , losers only trash talk after defeat and losers only find others to blame. ALL things that we never speak of or teach our boy. So , again good luck this year and we hope it gets better for ya before High School next year.
My "baby" plays his age and does very well. But listen Simpleton, there's a difference between a pubescent teenager and a 12 year old. Glad your son is such a king who skipped his growing years. But you've revealed yourself right here as a cheating, d@ck measuring Walmart lacky who actually believes cheating is the way. Did it work in your career? You probably think so. Good news, minimum wage goes up to $11 in January, so congrats.
Guess you can't read? Simpleton!
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Which 2022 Express team is your son on? My son is on Schwalje and it's been a very good all around experience thus far.
His kid must be on Chuck team. They got swept and looked pretty bad from what I saw. Channy only cares about top 2 teams rest of are money grab.
Ha ha, you just have a son on the "second" team. Channy cares about one team. When in the history of express has there ever been more than one A team per grade? Your son plays on the B team get over it.
Express History: 2011, what was the second team that summer turned out to be the best team! Beat everyone including the Top team. Won the most competitive tournament of summer that year. So, it happened. But.... Never will again as those top kids would now be moved over to what was considered the top team long before the summer season. Back then there wasn't much fall ball, practices or winter training. Teams started in May, ended in July.
....so did Express actually manage to put four teams together and 9D1 three in this grade?
You won't know until the Spring....
I will tell you this. All the Express teams practice at the same time and from what I saw and others are saying the CHUCK team will be the 2nd team and Schwaijle team will be the 3rd team. Much more talent on the CHUCK team then the others.
Still believe that?
That tournament was a waste of time, can't wait to get my son out of the express money run. It's been two months and I regret my decision to put my son here. Should have trusted my gut feelings.
Which 2022 Express team is your son on? My son is on Schwalje and it's been a very good all around experience thus far.
His kid must be on Chuck team. They got swept and looked pretty bad from what I saw. Channy only cares about top 2 teams rest of are money grab.
Ha ha, you just have a son on the "second" team. Channy cares about one team. When in the history of express has there ever been more than one A team per grade? Your son plays on the B team get over it.
Express History: 2011, what was the second team that summer turned out to be the best team! Beat everyone including the Top team. Won the most competitive tournament of summer that year. So, it happened. But.... Never will again as those top kids would now be moved over to what was considered the top team long before the summer season. Back then there wasn't much fall ball, practices or winter training. Teams started in May, ended in July.
Forget the history. So much has changed. 2nd teams are difficult because commitment level is different. For example, all three teams below the A are done for the fall. But the A team played all October and is playing right into December. That's too much for me, but a lot of people want that much lax, that much practice and that's why rosters have 30 plus and that's fine. Because a lot people don't have the energy and time that Channy has to handle a schedule like that.
How did express do down in maryland today? Any luck against hawks?
Lie channy beat Richmond hawks 12-8
Lost to Annapolis hawks 13-9
Beat D.C. Express 12-9
It was a great day of competition for all teams involved.
2-1, Won against Richmond and DC, lost to Annapolis
Lie channy beat Richmond hawks 12-8
Lost to Annapolis hawks 13-9
Beat D.C. Express 12-9
It was a great day of competition for all teams involved.
Agreed! Great group of young men playing at a high level. All teams looked sharp for fall ball. 57u3dm
Lie channy beat Richmond hawks 12-8
Lost to Annapolis hawks 13-9
Beat D.C. Express 12-9
It was a great day of competition for all teams involved.
Agreed! Great group of young men playing at a high level. All teams looked sharp for fall ball. 57u3dm
Competition should be as good in Delaware this weekend at the North American.
Lie channy beat Richmond hawks 12-8
Lost to Annapolis hawks 13-9
Beat D.C. Express 12-9
It was a great day of competition for all teams involved.
Agreed! Great group of young men playing at a high level. All teams looked sharp for fall ball. 57u3dm
Competition should be as good in Delaware this weekend at the North American.
Get ready to be shocked by the physical maturity of these Mid Atlantic boys.
Chucks got crushed in every tournament they played in.
They are not competitive with the B teams. Some parents need a reality check.
Some of the kids cant catch an throw, also not very athletic .
Thank the heavens for Express so not to have a bunch of crying parents and there kids who thought they should have made teams.
Oh the dreamers went to 6 tryouts and made 1. the Express "C".
I'm a parent of an 8th grader in a "non-hotbed" area (CO), and we have grade-based teams, and compete against many grade-based teams from back East during the summer. From my perspective, the "hold back" thing is a non-issue. It exists, maybe it's not fair but as I tell our son, life's not fair. Playing against bigger/older kids will (hopefully) make him better, and when 10th/11th grade comes and things mostly even out on the physical side, things will seem easier for him.
Also, there's a difference between chronological age and physical age. I've seen 9th graders just hitting puberty who are smaller and less developed than 8th graders who are well into puberty. Sure, on average, older kids are more physically mature, but it's not the end of the world.
As far as us parents go, we talk a bit about the fact that there are more holdbacks on hotbed-area teams, but we only talk about it in a bemused sense; we're not seriously upset about it.
I'm a parent of an 8th grader in a "non-hotbed" area (CO), and we have grade-based teams, and compete against many grade-based teams from back East during the summer. From my perspective, the "hold back" thing is a non-issue. It exists, maybe it's not fair but as I tell our son, life's not fair. Playing against bigger/older kids will (hopefully) make him better, and when 10th/11th grade comes and things mostly even out on the physical side, things will seem easier for him.
Also, there's a difference between chronological age and physical age. I've seen 9th graders just hitting puberty who are smaller and less developed than 8th graders who are well into puberty. Sure, on average, older kids are more physically mature, but it's not the end of the world.
As far as us parents go, we talk a bit about the fact that there are more holdbacks on hotbed-area teams, but we only talk about it in a bemused sense; we're not seriously upset about it.
I'm sure parents of soccer, hockey, basketball, etc all had parents with similar sentiments as you - fortunately, all of those sports rightly did what was best for the game and everyone playing, and they ignored those sentiments . . .
I'm a parent of an 8th grader in a "non-hotbed" area (CO), and we have grade-based teams, and compete against many grade-based teams from back East during the summer. From my perspective, the "hold back" thing is a non-issue. It exists, maybe it's not fair but as I tell our son, life's not fair. Playing against bigger/older kids will (hopefully) make him better, and when 10th/11th grade comes and things mostly even out on the physical side, things will seem easier for him.
Also, there's a difference between chronological age and physical age. I've seen 9th graders just hitting puberty who are smaller and less developed than 8th graders who are well into puberty. Sure, on average, older kids are more physically mature, but it's not the end of the world.
As far as us parents go, we talk a bit about the fact that there are more holdbacks on hotbed-area teams, but we only talk about it in a bemused sense; we're not seriously upset about it.
I'm sure parents of soccer, hockey, basketball, etc all had parents with similar sentiments as you - fortunately, all of those sports rightly did what was best for the game and everyone playing, and they ignored those sentiments . . .
Please no. Not another holdback discussion.
This debate should be about one thing and one thing only - player safety. Lacrosse is a full contact sport and it is dangerous for players to be that much more physically mature.
Which Express team is that out at the Mustang this weekend.
This debate should be about one thing and one thing only - player safety. Lacrosse is a full contact sport and it is dangerous for players to be that much more physically mature.
Not much of a debate. Everyone for the most part agrees and would welcome age based. The ones against it would just be a self serving argument. The clubs or PAL needs to change it. PAL should be a no brainer since it's not about wins and losses. Honestly, if PAL announced we are adopted the US Lacrosse age guidelines, who would complain. Soon after that, the clubs would have a hard time not implementing age as well. PAL needs something like this because people aren't wasting their time with it more and more. They prefer town lax for tourneys instead. That's my view fwiw.
Chucks got crushed in every tournament they played in.
They are not competitive with the B teams. Some parents need a reality check.
Some of the kids cant catch an throw, also not very athletic .
Thank the heavens for Express so not to have a bunch of crying parents and there kids who thought they should have made teams.
Oh the dreamers went to 6 tryouts and made 1. the Express "C".
Same with the "A" north team. 26 kids, some can't throw and catch. Only one coach for all those kids.
Which Express team is that out at the Mustang this weekend.
Channy
Which Express team is that out at the Mustang this weekend.
Channy
Yea Channy is gonna play in a B tournament. You know it's the C team the Chucks.
2022 Channy will be in Delaware this weekend
91 Smash is Back Baby. No more super team, can't wait to hear from the smash deez nut's guy. ; )
Which Express team is that out at the Mustang this weekend.
Channy
Yea Channy is gonna play in a B tournament. You know it's the C team the Chucks.
Yeah, deepest field of the fall in Delaware this weekend at the North American.
91 Smash is Back Baby. No more super team, can't wait to hear from the smash deez nut's guy. ; )
They have an easy weekend. They'll smash the Outlaws in the finals. Way to duck everyone.
Says the anonymous poster
91 Smash is Back Baby. No more super team, can't wait to hear from the smash deez nut's guy. ; )
They have an easy weekend. They'll smash the Outlaws in the finals. Way to duck everyone.
I hope they win, Smash deez nuts haven't won a tournament in two years.
Think Smash will struggle with Aspen Extreme
Smash should win easily. Silly that they duck everyone on LI when Express and Igloo played each other 3-4 times, even Legacy, Outlaws, Igloo B played the A teams throughout the fall and then you have Smash showing up in CT at a B tournament with B teams.
Think Smash will struggle with Aspen Extreme
no, if the new attack player is playing 91 will easily win
if he is not playing, its could be a competitive game
Smash should win easily. Silly that they duck everyone on LI when Express and Igloo played each other 3-4 times, even Legacy, Outlaws, Igloo B played the A teams throughout the fall and then you have Smash showing up in CT at a B tournament with B teams.
Don't really have a problem with it that team had a ton of turnover seems they have practiced more than played. It's the fall and they play an extensive summer schedule plus I'm sure next weekend things probably amp up. Kinda wish we weren't traveling this weekend to play teams from LI. Would be nice especially in this age group with most of the top teams from LI if all the tournaments were home.
I think the Outlaws run away with this tournament. They are head and shoulders above all the other competition including the "new" 9D1. They both have improved but Outlaws much better overall. The only chance 9D1 has is their X factor, the ex Outlaw. Should be interesting!!
I think the Outlaws run away with this tournament. They are head and shoulders above all the other competition including the "new" 9D1. They both have improved but Outlaws much better overall. The only chance 9D1 has is their X factor, the ex Outlaw. Should be interesting!!
You as an outlaw should celebrate if you beat the Wolfpack
No doubt the anonymous posters are the ones whose kid is on a premier team but probably never plays. Bottom 3 or 4. Brags to people about the team his kid plays on but fails to tell everyone he's a bench player.
Parents of the better players could care less about who's where and who beats who.
I hope you don't raise you son to be as spineless as you are. He will grow up to be the water boy on the sideline.
Lets focus on what's really important. GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!!
No doubt the anonymous posters are the ones whose kid is on a premier team but probably never plays. Bottom 3 or 4. Brags to people about the team his kid plays on but fails to tell everyone he's a bench player.
Parents of the better players could care less about who's where and who beats who.
I hope you don't raise you son to be as spineless as you are. He will grow up to be the water boy on the sideline.
Lets focus on what's really important. GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good thing you 'snuck' in your dig at players who aren't the top players on their team before your self righteous Veteran's comment . . .
Referring to the fathers you moron
Referring to the fathers you moron
So, your defense is that your dig is only at the fathers, but only fathers of players you basically said suck relative to their team . . . got it! <eye roll!!>
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
The joke was that outlaws sucks and can't hang with Wolfpack let alone smash, anyway coaches son is very good, not the best bar none. Every A team has 1-2 kids as good as him.
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
Outlaws and wolfpack are on same side Smash is on opposite
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
Are they bringing in the six footer from down south to get in the cage? Hear their local kid is out for a few weeks. Or will they have a Blaze kid step in?
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
Should be in 9th grade...
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
Should be in 9th grade...
But he is in the 8th grade and you are right , a kid born in July or August has a tremendous advantage over a kid born in Sept. or October. Stop your whining.
Saw smash play today, and have seen igloo, express etc. Smash is the best team on LI. One will argue that the competition was weak in CT, and that is true but Smash is the best team on LI by far.
Why isn’t Smash in the A tournament tmw. I guess they really wanted that B t-shirt today.
What teams will be playing next weekend on Long Island
Looks like we have a rebirth of Smash and United. Outlaws have appeared to have taken a step back. In my opinion
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
take it easy
It's not the wolfpack. It's 91 smash dopey. And the x-factor everyone is referring to is the coaches son, crush attackman. Best player in 8 grade bar none.
Should be in 9th grade...
But he is in the 8th grade and you are right , a kid born in July or August has a tremendous advantage over a kid born in Sept. or October. Stop your whining.
June from the year before... know your facts before you rebut. No one is whining, just stating the truth. That's a 15 or 16 month difference for kids born in September or October of 2004...
Outlaws missing two starting attackmen
Outlaws missing two starting attackmen
Don't think that affects a game much where 91 had offensive possession of the ball 99% of the time
I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
You saying empire is and A team? They can't hold their own with the better B teams on LI? Including igloo, outlaws, legacy, etc
Did I just see that Leading Edge 2022 beat Igloo 10-2 at the NAL? Is that a typo?
I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
Yep couldn't lose their own tournament. Final score was definitely not how the game went against the Ducks. It was 1 to 1 about half way thru the game. Ducks had a ton of turnovers. The game get away from them from there. Empire wouldn't even play in the championship game they just assumed a win ?
I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
Empire ain’t no A-team for sure!
I guess Smash will be starting clear of Igloo and Express so they can guarantee they never lose.
Express just won vs the toughest field of the Fall. They are the best team this weekend. Leading Edge seems to have improved a lot.
Express just won vs the toughest field of the Fall. They are the best team this weekend. Leading Edge seems to have improved a lot.
You shouldn't drink and post.
Express is the best team in 2022. They proved that today. Final verse Primetime was a lot closer than the Worl Series game.
I guess Smash will be starting clear of Igloo and Express so they can guarantee they never lose.
Did you read this before you posted it??
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game doesn’t define a team. Don’t get ahead of yourself. And let’s not forget, ExMess, I mean Express is a shady team with a shady past.
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game does not define a team. As far as ExMess, I mean Express, overstacking & reloading their roster, having guest players come back for tournaments even though they moved across the country (oh wait, the kid misses his friends!), running their three golden boys into the ground and playing them the entire game. Shady organization. But hey, they are winning! Shady. Whatever it takes!
Outlaws missing two starting attackmen
Don't think that affects a game much where 91 had offensive possession of the ball 99% of the time
The 91 2nd team tied 3-3. Lotsa parity. Don't know who is A or B anymore, just a few elite teams and the rest. The rest looks pretty solid.
Biggest question from the weekend. Is 9D1 Smash that good or is the rest of the pack in the "A" division that's bad I saw they completely dominated the Outlaws. It seems only 3 AA teams on Long Island that being Express Channy, 9D1 Smash, Igloo. All the others are just either A or B. Simple as that!!!!!!
Outlaws missing two starting attackmen
Don't think that affects a game much where 91 had offensive possession of the ball 99% of the time
The 91 2nd team tied 3-3. Lotsa parity. Don't know who is A or B anymore, just a few elite teams and the rest. The rest looks pretty solid.
You just committed BOTC blasphemy: to suggest that there might be more than 2 - 3 non-AA "A teams" at an age on LI. You better watch your back - the lax mafia is coming for you . . .
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game does not define a team. As far as ExMess, I mean Express, overstacking & reloading their roster, having guest players come back for tournaments even though they moved across the country (oh wait, the kid misses his friends!), running their three golden boys into the ground and playing them the entire game. Shady organization. But hey, they are winning! Shady. Whatever it takes!
Igloo just over stacked their roster. Who are you kidding. Same players play whole game there too. Stop the nonsense
Yes igloo plays the same players most of the game. But at least they are from Long Island. Watched that express team play yesterday. They shouldn't be called long island express anymore. Just express. At least 6 players not from the island. Not even from NYS. They are the same as the dukes now who they constantly bad mouth. I guess if you can't beat them join them.igloo still the best true LI team.
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game does not define a team. As far as ExMess, I mean Express, overstacking & reloading their roster, having guest players come back for tournaments even though they moved across the country (oh wait, the kid misses his friends!), running their three golden boys into the ground and playing them the entire game. Shady organization. But hey, they are winning! Shady. Whatever it takes!
Igloo just over stacked their roster. Who are you kidding. Same players play whole game there too. Stop the nonsense
Stop deflecting. No overstocking. Same amount of kids as always. So stop your BS and false information
Igloo wasn't the best in Denver
[quote=Anonymous]Igloo wasn't the best in Denver[/
You’re a tool. Nobody mentioned Denver
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
So its true? Just surprised with the goal differential. Igloo is incredibly talented but capable of being beat. Wasn't sure if the score was a typo or legit.
I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
You saying empire is and A team? They can't hold their own with the better B teams on LI? Including igloo, outlaws, legacy, etc
If your talking best B team you have to include Hitmen. Which I believe is the best Bteam in the group after watching them play in the Blatant tournament
[quote=Anonymous]I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
You saying empire is and A team? They can't hold their own with the better B teams on LI? Including igloo, outlaws, legacy, etc
If your talking best B team you have to include Hitmen. Which I believe is the best Bteam in the group after watching them play in the Blatant tournament [/quo
So, you are saying Hitmen will beat Outlaws, Legacy and Igloo B?
Yes igloo plays the same players most of the game. But at least they are from Long Island. Watched that express team play yesterday. They shouldn't be called long island express anymore. Just express. At least 6 players not from the island. Not even from NYS. They are the same as the dukes now who they constantly bad mouth. I guess if you can't beat them join them.igloo still the best true LI team.
express doesn’t badmouth dukes
[quote=Anonymous]I like all these so called A-teams playing in B! Sounds like empire just did it too!
You saying empire is and A team? They can't hold their own with the better B teams on LI? Including igloo, outlaws, legacy, etc
If your talking best B team you have to include Hitmen. Which I believe is the best Bteam in the group after watching them play in the Blatant tournament [/quo
So, you are saying Hitmen will beat Outlaws, Legacy and Igloo B?
I would say they are very well matched with above teams. you certainly cant go by prior year performance. this new HM team has been revamped with a few nice upgrades this season. I believe from what i saw that they could absolutley beat anyone of those teams. (the only argument i would have is that your short changeing Legacy which should be catagorized as an A team).
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game does not define a team. As far as ExMess, I mean Express, overstacking & reloading their roster, having guest players come back for tournaments even though they moved across the country (oh wait, the kid misses his friends!), running their three golden boys into the ground and playing them the entire game. Shady organization. But hey, they are winning! Shady. Whatever it takes!
Igloo just over stacked their roster. Who are you kidding. Same players play whole game there too. Stop the nonsense
Stop deflecting. No overstocking. Same amount of kids as always. So stop your BS and false information
not the same amount. count again
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Yes igloo plays the same players most of the game. But at least they are from Long Island. Watched that express team play yesterday. They shouldn't be called long island express anymore. Just express. At least 6 players not from the island. Not even from NYS. They are the same as the dukes now who they constantly bad mouth. I guess if you can't beat them join them.igloo still the best true LI team.
Call express whatever you want to but that team beat igloo three times this fall so stop with the self proclaimed title
The same igloo that got destroyed today Different level than express
Take it easy there. One crappy game does not define a team. As far as ExMess, I mean Express, overstacking & reloading their roster, having guest players come back for tournaments even though they moved across the country (oh wait, the kid misses his friends!), running their three golden boys into the ground and playing them the entire game. Shady organization. But hey, they are winning! Shady. Whatever it takes!
Igloo just over stacked their roster. Who are you kidding. Same players play whole game there too. Stop the nonsense
Stop deflecting. No overstocking. Same amount of kids as always. So stop your BS and false information
not the same amount. count again
I counted. About 15 kids on express sideline. Stop deflecting
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
You read it wrong. It's the top 3 and everyone else... with outlaws and legacy being the best of the rest. Meaning stop with aa, a, b+, b.. It's results and the top 3 have separated themselves on LI this fall. Right now after the top 3 it's Legacy, Outlaws and everyone else on LI can't beat those teams in my opinion. If that's silly, fine my opinion and we can disagree. But that's what the results bear out in my opinion.
Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
[quote=Anonymous]Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
Aren't they playing in the tournament at Farmingdale this weekend with Express, Leading Edge (10-2), and Prime Time?
[quote=Anonymous]Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
Aren't they playing in the tournament at Farmingdale this weekend with Express, Leading Edge (10-2), and Prime Time?
Yes those teams will all see each other this weekend....at the vendor stands and food lines.
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
The minute someone invokes the " C team" label, they have zero legitimacy - means they are ABSOLUTELY clueless . . .
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
too funny that everyone is worried about a label of AA,A B ......call it what you want we all are aware of who is top level boys are and who is not...but whatever help you people to sleep at night
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
too funny that everyone is worried about a label of AA,A B ......call it what you want we all are aware of who is top level boys are and who is not...but whatever help you people to sleep at night
I love it... "Top Level Boys", really? They are 13/14 yrs old and many have not even hit puberty yet which will be the ultimate game changer. Let's all take a deep breath here and let's see where these boys are in 18/24 months. We have all seen 13 year old "All Stars" that peaked early (now) and they were done with the game by JV because they have stopped growing and being 5' 6" as a 15/16 yr old makes it much more difficult to compete.
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
too funny that everyone is worried about a label of AA,A B ......call it what you want we all are aware of who is top level boys are and who is not...but whatever help you people to sleep at night
I love the answers from the ignorant and myopic - if it doesn't affect them then there's no problem! Typical self-centered assholes. A proper assessment of talent of teams is not necessary for labeling players - it's primarily so that teams can properly decide upon which tournaments they should be playing in so that, correspondingly, those players can get the best lax experiences in the course of
their development as players! Of course, the development of any players other than your own kid and/or his teammates is of zero interest to your ilk, so no shocker there that you don't care. It is for that reason why for every program director that claims to be involved in club lacrosse primarily for the "betterment of the game and for the kids", I say BS - if they truly had the interest of the game in mind, they would advocate for policies that actually had the maximum benefit of the most players! Sadly, they're all full of sh*t - all the care about is their club. They self proclaim and others put these guys on pedestals as "leaders" in the lacrosse community - that isn't leadership - in fact it's arguable the exact opposite! The even sadder part of this is that advocating for such policies - proper team level assessments, age-based play, enforcement of said policies - would do little to nothing to diminish their players and clubs development, as well as profits. You people couldn't come up with an effective strategy and tactics to develop talent in anything.
Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
they have kids from all over on that team now, not just long island kids. Maybe too many were unavailable to play at the other tournaments?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
It’s moron. Maroon is a color.
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
too funny that everyone is worried about a label of AA,A B ......call it what you want we all are aware of who is top level boys are and who is not...but whatever help you people to sleep at night
I love the answers from the ignorant and myopic - if it doesn't affect them then there's no problem! Typical self-centered assholes. A proper assessment of talent of teams is not necessary for labeling players - it's primarily so that teams can properly decide upon which tournaments they should be playing in so that, correspondingly, those players can get the best lax experiences in the course of
their development as players! Of course, the development of any players other than your own kid and/or his teammates is of zero interest to your ilk, so no shocker there that you don't care. It is for that reason why for every program director that claims to be involved in club lacrosse primarily for the "betterment of the game and for the kids", I say BS - if they truly had the interest of the game in mind, they would advocate for policies that actually had the maximum benefit of the most players! Sadly, they're all full of sh*t - all the care about is their club. They self proclaim and others put these guys on pedestals as "leaders" in the lacrosse community - that isn't leadership - in fact it's arguable the exact opposite! The even sadder part of this is that advocating for such policies - proper team level assessments, age-based play, enforcement of said policies - would do little to nothing to diminish their players and clubs development, as well as profits. You people couldn't come up with an effective strategy and tactics to develop talent in anything.
Talk about bloviating , what a bunch of crap. You should run for public office.
Really? So does every team, plus football, etc. 91 needs to challenge themselves. They need to play against Primetime, Leading Edge and Express this weekend.
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
All it means all these teams are all within the same (not equal) ability level. That means forget A and B, the next level is Igloo 2nd team, Express 2nd team, Hitmen, Legacy A, Outlaws, fl$, True Blue, 91 2nd team and Empire. The problem is some of these teams want to compete with the big boy AA teams. Oulaws and Legacy are likey the top teams here in my opinion, but elite players from those teams tend to migrate to the big 3. Just my opinion on things.
You are silly, true blue? Empire? fl$? 91 second team? These are C teams assuming legacy, outlaws and igloo are B. Legacy a "big boy" three got smoked by igloo and express and played outlaws to a tie?
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
too funny that everyone is worried about a label of AA,A B ......call it what you want we all are aware of who is top level boys are and who is not...but whatever help you people to sleep at night
I love the answers from the ignorant and myopic - if it doesn't affect them then there's no problem! Typical self-centered assholes. A proper assessment of talent of teams is not necessary for labeling players - it's primarily so that teams can properly decide upon which tournaments they should be playing in so that, correspondingly, those players can get the best lax experiences in the course of
their development as players! Of course, the development of any players other than your own kid and/or his teammates is of zero interest to your ilk, so no shocker there that you don't care. It is for that reason why for every program director that claims to be involved in club lacrosse primarily for the "betterment of the game and for the kids", I say BS - if they truly had the interest of the game in mind, they would advocate for policies that actually had the maximum benefit of the most players! Sadly, they're all full of it - all the care about is their club. They self proclaim and others put these guys on pedestals as "leaders" in the lacrosse community - that isn't leadership - in fact it's arguable the exact opposite! The even sadder part of this is that advocating for such policies - proper team level assessments, age-based play, enforcement of said policies - would do little to nothing to diminish their players and clubs development, as well as profits. You people couldn't come up with an effective strategy and tactics to develop talent in anything.
Talk about bloviating , what a bunch of crap. You should run for public office.
Maybe a little long for you but absolutely right
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
There is really no need because these advanced players are already competing at high level, they are getting great training and they certainly play plenty of lacrosse through their club team. risk = injury & reward = 0 Those players will have a bright future and don’t need to prematurely play varsity and jeopardize their years to come in high school and college.
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
There is really no need because these advanced players are already competing at high level, they are getting great training and they certainly play plenty of lacrosse through their club team. risk = injury & reward = 0 Those players will have a bright future and don’t need to prematurely play varsity and jeopardize their years to come in high school and college.
It depends on where you live. Every athletic program is completely different. Everyone will make the choice that’s best for their own kid. It’s nobody else’s business.
Alystair hemberger is sure making his way into the top 100 attackmen of the class 2022
Seriously you people are all delusional! Just stop with all the negativity and stupidity! They are 13 year old kids who cares what team your kid plays on and how many t-shirts your kid has won let them have fun. Oh and in case you wanna say something insulting toward me or my child he played on the Brine team and the Warrior team. I will be honest if he didn't love it I wouldn't lose sleep over him not playing lacrosse anymore. He never gives me a hard time about training or practice, the moment he does I'm done. That would mean it's not fun!!!
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
If you live in any community that has a solid program, unless a kid is a phenom, the answer should be none. (Hint: there aren't many phenoms . . . )
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
There is really no need because these advanced players are already competing at high level, they are getting great training and they certainly play plenty of lacrosse through their club team. risk = injury & reward = 0 Those players will have a bright future and don’t need to prematurely play varsity and jeopardize their years to come in high school and college.
It depends on where you live. Every athletic program is completely different. Everyone will make the choice that’s best for their own kid. It’s nobody else’s business.
^^^^agreed-
And are you looking for specific players? Name, jersey# etc. this is not the place to be calling out specific players.
Not being "AA" does not equal "B" . . . what a maroon!
It’s moron. Maroon is a color.
You obviously never watched Bugs Bunny so didn't catch on to an iconic pop culture play on word(s) ... proving you are a maroon!
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
There is really no need because these advanced players are already competing at high level, they are getting great training and they certainly play plenty of lacrosse through their club team. risk = injury & reward = 0 Those players will have a bright future and don’t need to prematurely play varsity and jeopardize their years to come in high school and college.
It depends on where you live. Every athletic program is completely different. Everyone will make the choice that’s best for their own kid. It’s nobody else’s business.
You only get to make a choice for your kid AFTER the coach makes a choice to even consider your kid playing up. Getting a little ahead of yourself there...
Let the kids play don't worry if it MS or HS
As long as they have fun.
What 8th graders are getting the looks from their HS coaches on varsity. Any playing this weekend? If so good luck, I always like to keep an eye out for those kids. Seen a long line of them do great things. And dont give me the crazy line that certain schools need them and others dont allow them. I like to celebrate all tose that get the oppurtunity.
There is really no need because these advanced players are already competing at high level, they are getting great training and they certainly play plenty of lacrosse through their club team. risk = injury & reward = 0 Those players will have a bright future and don’t need to prematurely play varsity and jeopardize their years to come in high school and college.
It depends on where you live. Every athletic program is completely different. Everyone will make the choice that’s best for their own kid. It’s nobody else’s business.
You only get to make a choice for your kid AFTER the coach makes a choice to even consider your kid playing up. Getting a little ahead of yourself there...
not getting ahead of anything - obviously the parents will make the choice AFTER the coach reaches out to them. Did I use the word BEFORE???? no need to pounce
I wonder what happened to the new Turtles?
New reams added to the 2022 age group of the Fall Lacrosse Classic. Is 9D1 locasio really Smash?
New reams added to the 2022 age group of the Fall Lacrosse Classic. Is 9D1 locasio really Smash?
No. Team 91 Marksberry is.
New reams added to the 2022 age group of the Fall Lacrosse Classic. Is 9D1 locasio really Smash?
No. Team 91 Marksberry is.
Look again they are both on the schedule. Marksberry is in one and Locasio in the other. I guess they are slumming.
New reams added to the 2022 age group of the Fall Lacrosse Classic. Is 9D1 locasio really Smash?
No. Team 91 Marksberry is.
Wrong. Locascio is last year's 91AA. Marksberry is last year's 91A.
New reams added to the 2022 age group of the Fall Lacrosse Classic. Is 9D1 locasio really Smash?
No. Team 91 Marksberry is.
Wrong. Locascio is last year's 91AA. Marksberry is last year's 91A.
Lacascio is Smash and Marksberry is the B team. Looks like they are trying reverse the super team debacle.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
So tourney machine is wrong. It has it the other way. And it has them beating Laxachuttes as well.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
91 Nuts are back! Close game, no excuses. 91 should take it easy and try playing in a handful of tournaments, and winning, with all the best teams before self proclaiming to be the best.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
So tourney machine is wrong. It has it the other way. And it has them beating Laxachuttes as well.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
So tourney machine is wrong. It has it the other way. And it has them beating Laxachuttes as well.
Tourney machine corrected score. LE won 10-7. Looks like LE’s 10-2 victory over Igloo was not a fluke. Regardless, all of these teams are good.
Express handled easily by leading edge. Score closer than the game . 10-7. 91 the best team on LI. Come summer it won't be close. Express, let's hear all the excuses for today. Too windy, too cold, muddy fields, missing players. Guess what? Same goes for every team there.
Actually no NOT a 91 nut I'm a jersey nut which is why I said on LI not overall LE will be the top dog very soon. We didn't play 91'but saw them and they look much better than previous year. Laxachusetts also tough
“Saw them” lol, shut up, you’re stirring stuff up
A lot teams improving. The NLF at this "age" should be very good. Leading Edge, Big 4, Mesa and Laxachusettes all can compete. How did Mesa do vs Smash?
A lot teams improving. The NLF at this "age" should be very good. Leading Edge, Big 4, Mesa and Laxachusettes all can compete. How did Mesa do vs Smash?
Agreed Smash won by 4 goals
A lot teams improving. The NLF at this "age" should be very good. Leading Edge, Big 4, Mesa and Laxachusettes all can compete. How did Mesa do vs Smash?
Agreed Smash won by 4 goals
who won the last Express game?
A lot teams improving. The NLF at this "age" should be very good. Leading Edge, Big 4, Mesa and Laxachusettes all can compete. How did Mesa do vs Smash?
Agreed Smash won by 4 goals
who won the last Express game?
Express won 10-4
A lot teams improving. The NLF at this "age" should be very good. Leading Edge, Big 4, Mesa and Laxachusettes all can compete. How did Mesa do vs Smash?
Agreed Smash won by 4 goals
who won the last Express game?
Express won 10-4
91 is not the best at 2022 stop with that nonsense.
Leading Edge has multiple 15 years olds at 2022. Seriously? Get a life.
All that being said the NLF teams are all getting more event then they were in 2022 a few years ago.
Leading Edge must be a solid team if they beat IG 10-2
The reason why all these NLF teams are getting better is because they all use some 15 year old kids to play against each other. And that includes 91 and express who both have some players that should be in high school. It works at this level though. If you can't beat em join em.
I'd love to see the birthdates of some of these kids who play for NLF teams. What a sham...
I'd love to see the birthdates of some of these kids who play for NLF teams. What a sham...
It's called Reclassification... many states let their athletes do this
What do you even mean by this? Does even anyone understand what you are saying or are you just talking to yourself???
I'd love to see the birthdates of some of these kids who play for NLF teams. What a sham...
It's called Reclassification... many states let their athletes do this
States don't do this. Crazy parents hold their academically capable kids back in school for sports. Nothing to do with where you live. No one "allows" it.
I'd love to see the birthdates of some of these kids who play for NLF teams. What a sham...
It's called Reclassification... many states let their athletes do this
States don't do this. Crazy parents hold their academically capable kids back in school for sports. Nothing to do with where you live. No one "allows" it.
True - states have to provide for accommodations for SAs where they may have to repeat a grade for
academic reasons or started school late due to similar concerns; the states' accommodations have absolutely zero to do with athletic consideration.
"Igloo has been poisoned"
What do you even mean by this? Does even anyone understand what you are saying or are you just talking to yourself???"
Inside joke
"Igloo has been poisoned"
What do you even mean by this? Does even anyone understand what you are saying or are you just talking to yourself?"
Inside Joke
Love the nicknames. We need more nicknames.
"Igloo has been poisoned"
What do you even mean by this? Does even anyone understand what you are saying or are you just talking to yourself?"
Oh those who have been around know exactly what I'm talking about...
please enlighten us, thanks
You have no idea what go's on with Igloo
It’s called, your kid can’t hang with his own age group, let’s play down.
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for everyone.
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for everyone.
No sweat funny guy, if you disagree say something.
It’s called, your kid can’t hang with his own age group, let’s play down.
All too teams have their studs as a year older.
It’s called, your kid can’t hang with his own age group, let’s play down.
All too teams have their studs as a year older.
Huh? English please on this forum...
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for everyone.
No sweat funny guy, if you disagree say something.
How many games did 91 play this Fall and who has the team beat this season?
91 had plenty of time to get ready, they should have played at Blatant fall jam! Instead of a feel good tourne to make everybody happy,haha!
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for everyone.
No sweat funny guy, if you disagree say something.
How many games did 91 play this Fall and who has the team beat this season?
No teams like Express or Igloo. There is no team to beat. Express dominated every team in Denver, then lost the next week. These teams are all very good to great and can all beat one another. There is no more Turtles or Crush. But many have a desire to say they have a son on the best team.
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
In that order
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for everyone.
No sweat funny guy, if you disagree say something.
How many games did 91 play this Fall and who has the team beat this season?
No teams like Express or Igloo. There is no team to beat. Express dominated every team in Denver, then lost the next week. These teams are all very good to great and can all beat one another. There is no more Turtles or Crush. But many have a desire to say they have a son on the best team.
Agreed! There is a tremendous amount of talent with the 2022 class. Just sit back and enjoy watching the boys play at such a high level. Before we all know it, it will be over.
[quote=Anonymous]Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
Aren't they playing in the tournament at Farmingdale this weekend with Express, Leading Edge (10-2), and Prime Time?
Leading Edge (15-13)
[quote=Anonymous]Is 91 dream, super, smash team in the top 3? They haven’t won a tournament since 2014.
Yes one of the top teams in LI but not sure why 91 doesn’t want to play the best teams yet / baby steps with Yale tournament and their easy NLF scheduled draw / playing it safe this Fall season
Aren't they playing in the tournament at Farmingdale this weekend with Express, Leading Edge (10-2), and Prime Time?
Leading Edge (15-13)
And Express is at Duke & NC this weekend taking on teams from the mid-atlantic. Say what you want, make your meaningless rankings. Exprest plays everyone. Chan always wants to go up against the best teams.
OMG 3 times a charm with 91 First they had two strong competitive teams then they had the "super team" now they brought a player down whose parent acts like they play up even though they are in the appropriate age group and now is bringing them down claiming they are in that grade anyway to finally get 91 back to that top spot good luck I'm sick of hearing how great your organization is let's hope it's 3 times a charm with this maneuver
OMG 3 times a charm with 91 First they had two strong competitive teams then they had the "super team" now they brought a player down whose parent acts like they play up even though they are in the appropriate age group and now is bringing them down claiming they are in that grade anyway to finally get 91 back to that top spot good luck I'm sick of hearing how great your organization is let's hope it's 3 times a charm with this maneuver
The player your referencing plays on a 2020 team so yes that would be playing up. As far as 91 who has said 91 is the best? I think on LI most think as of right now express is the top dog. That could change also may not change. Enjoy the ride with your kid or the long ride home you are on now from UNC much like myself.
Shame on me was duped again by Channybucks sad he is the one that will ruin this team. Lie after lie
Shame on me was duped again by Channybucks sad he is the one that will ruin this team. Lie after lie
What is this in reference to? They beat crabs today.
We were fleeced by channenbuck$$ again! Flew to North Carolina to play in a 7 v 7 tournament. My son plays defense. No poles allowed. The temperature is getting hot over here in channyland. This guy is beyond greedy.
Why was it 7 v 7? It wasn’t last year
That event at UNC/Duke with the Express, Crabs, Mesa and Sweetlax was a 7 v 7 tournament? Really?
That event at UNC/Duke with the Express, Crabs, Mesa and Sweetlax was a 7 v 7 tournament? Really?
7v7 with a large roster isn't a lot of fun.
Yep. Snowflake tournament. 7on 7. What a ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME.
There’s pictures of kids playing with long poles online at UNC. What are you talking about?
We were fleeced by channenbuck$$ again! Flew to North Carolina to play in a 7 v 7 tournament. My son plays defense. No poles allowed. The temperature is getting hot over here in channyland. This guy is beyond greedy.
The trip was organized for the UNC event and Duke was a last minute addition, to expose to boys to the world-class university next door. If your child and you didn’t enjoy it, you probably should not have come.
We were fleeced by channenbuck$$ again! Flew to North Carolina to play in a 7 v 7 tournament. My son plays defense. No poles allowed. The temperature is getting hot over here in channyland. This guy is beyond greedy.
The trip was organized for the UNC event and Duke was a last minute addition, to expose to boys to the world-class university next door. If your child and you didn’t enjoy it, you probably should not have come.
What does Duke being involved with it have to do with why it was changed to a 7v7 with no long poles. Is that actually how the games were played or did someone make that up?
Who cares what happened at Duke? Sounds like Express played 3 quality games on Sat at UNC, saw a UNC basketball game, toured both colleges, and played in a mini tournament at Duke. Sticks are in their hands and they're having fun. Express played over 30 games this fall and lost 2 (Annapolis Hawks and Leading Edge) Is someone really gonna question why they were in a 7 vs 7 tournament with no long poles? Really? The entire weekend was optional, there were no added registration fees, and i'm sure the D pole dad complaining wasn't there or has a kid on the team.
Anyone know why there was a lighter turn out for the All American National Clasic tryouts yesterday? there was maybe 60 kids vs about 200 last year? any thoughts?
Are you serious? Expecting families to shell out $$ around this time of year to go travel to NC. That's just plain ballsy. Don't care how many games they played or how many losses they had. The amount of money that man expects people to pay is crazy. Question for you, how much did you pay this fall for all those tournaments and travel and then think about how much of a $ grab this trip was. And gimme a break with optional. Nothing is optional with this team.
Who cares what happened at Duke? Sounds like Express played 3 quality games on Sat at UNC, saw a UNC basketball game, toured both colleges, and played in a mini tournament at Duke. Sticks are in their hands and they're having fun. Express played over 30 games this fall and lost 2 (Annapolis Hawks and Leading Edge) Is someone really gonna question why they were in a 7 vs 7 tournament with no long poles? Really? The entire weekend was optional, there were no added registration fees, and i'm sure the D pole dad complaining wasn't there or has a kid on the team.
Well, it's kinda obvious that people DO care and you seem to be doing a lot of guessing about what happened.
We were fleeced by channenbuck$$ again! Flew to North Carolina to play in a 7 v 7 tournament. My son plays defense. No poles allowed. The temperature is getting hot over here in channyland. This guy is beyond greedy.
The trip was organized for the UNC event and Duke was a last minute addition, to expose to boys to the world-class university next door. If your child and you didn’t enjoy it, you probably should not have come.
So if the games on Saturday at UNC were normal games, who cares that they played in a different 7v7 setup on Sunday at Duke? Sounds like a fun weekend for the kids.
Why does everyone feel such pride in the club teams their kids play for? I guess I can't follow the connection people have to the club team. I understand high school, college, town based youth program connection but not the club loyalty. Worth noting, I do not live on LI so maybe it's different in Westchester.
Warrior vs Brine. Whose is most at stake here? Follow the money back to a LI connection.
Why does everyone feel such pride in the club teams their kids play for? I guess I can't follow the connection people have to the club team. I understand high school, college, town based youth program connection but not the club loyalty. Worth noting, I do not live on LI so maybe it's different in Westchester.
I think the answers are varied - for the 'big' teams, there seems to be a whole sense of superiority in being associated with those clubs, and I mean beyond level of play - they have what I would equate with societal social classes. They truly look down at EVERY other club. The irony there is that some of their teams don't have the talent to even extend to that unnecessary and unrelated dismissive attitude. (For Express teams, I'd argue the bottom half of the rosters on their top talent team(s) don't have the prerequisites to be all arrogant since those boys hardly ever see the field!) For others, it may be that their club team has had a consistent solid core of kids together before they get to HS, and or maybe their local programs - youth community or school - just aren't that good/committed to the sport. Considering the number of boys that play lax on LI as well as the large number of club programs, that also plays into it.
Anyone know why there was a lighter turn out for the All American National Clasic tryouts yesterday? there was maybe 60 kids vs about 200 last year? any thoughts?
Anyone know why there was a lighter turn out for the All American National Clasic tryouts yesterday? there was maybe 60 kids vs about 200 last year? any thoughts?
College coaches aren't looking at 12 -14 year olds anymore. Turnout will pick up in 2 years.
We were fleeced by channenbuck$$ again! Flew to North Carolina to play in a 7 v 7 tournament. My son plays defense. No poles allowed. The temperature is getting hot over here in channyland. This guy is beyond greedy.
The trip was organized for the UNC event and Duke was a last minute addition, to expose to boys to the world-class university next door. If your child and you didn’t enjoy it, you probably should not have come.
So if the games on Saturday at UNC were normal games, who cares that they played in a different 7v7 setup on Sunday at Duke? Sounds like a fun weekend for the kids.
The awazing part is what is spent on youth sports in today's world. And the culture of being afraid to miss something.
Money grab this and money grab that! I'm sick of hearing it.you flew all the way to NC when for 90$ you could have gone to CW post and got 3 hours of practice and play time for your kid! Who are you doing all this stuff for you or your kid!
Are you serious? Expecting families to shell out $$ around this time of year to go travel to NC. That's just plain ballsy. Don't care how many games they played or how many losses they had. The amount of money that man expects people to pay is crazy. Question for you, how much did you pay this fall for all those tournaments and travel and then think about how much of a $ grab this trip was. And gimme a break with optional. Nothing is optional with this team.
Just think about how much money you are paying for your little Billy to play a sport that will still cost you $$ for him/to play into his college years. And then what???
Obviously this tram has disposable income and don’t mind paying for all of it. It’s the same people that keep paying so it’s obviously not a problem for them so....
When do invites start going out for the All American National Clasic?
When do invites go out for the All American National Clasic?
Are you serious? Expecting families to shell out $$ around this time of year to go travel to NC. That's just plain ballsy. Don't care how many games they played or how many losses they had. The amount of money that man expects people to pay is crazy. Question for you, how much did you pay this fall for all those tournaments and travel and then think about how much of a $ grab this trip was. And gimme a break with optional. Nothing is optional with this team.
very happy with express. thank you for caring. the training instruction competition and experience are priceless. like everything in life, people have choices and do what they want.
Sorry buddy. There most certainly is a price on everything involved with express. And it's extremely high. And your choices analogy, go tell Chan you can't make it to next practice, your son has football or basketball or whatever. Unless you are one of his boys your kid will be reprimanded. No equal sledding with this team
Sorry buddy. There most certainly is a price on everything involved with express. And it's extremely high. And your choices analogy, go tell Chan you can't make it to next practice, your son has football or basketball or whatever. Unless you are one of his boys your kid will be reprimanded. No equal sledding with this team
Haters hate. Must be very difficult to be happy with such a negative attitude. Hope your kid gets influences other than yours
Invites to all of the Igloo helmets and such a money grab. Should have gone to NC to watch some Chan lacrosse without long poles.
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
Never said my son didn’t make it. Just stating it was mostly Igloo kids. What is S2S? Must be your Southshore team.
S2S is the team that's thinks they can beat the Bandits! FYI their not the good, can you say hold backs,haha.
S2S is the team that's thinks they can beat the Bandits! FYI their not the good, can you say hold backs,haha.
S2S is 7th grade bozo.
Yes, and the team is 2023 2022 combined bozo!
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Yes, and the team is 2023 2022 combined bozo!
No it's not bozo.
Yes, and the team is 2023 2022 combined bozo!
No it's all 22's check the results that are posted
where are results posted???
Yeah, check the list cornholeo, their are 7 2023's on the list!
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.
Four S2S 2023 kids were invited to the team (doesn't the head evaluator coach for them?), four Outlaws (1 is on 2023), three kids from Express (1 is on 2023), three from GC and a bunch of FOP (friends of the Penguin).
How the heck do you know who the kids play for! The list just gives thei names and town!
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.
Four S2S 2023 kids were invited to the team (doesn't the head evaluator coach for them?), four Outlaws (1 is on 2023), three kids from Express (1 is on 2023), three from GC and a bunch of FOP (friends of the Penguin).
I am very happy for your insight but also very concerned about your dept of knowledge. Please tell me you also have a hobby.
How the heck do you know who the kids play for! The list just gives thei names and town!
That is just down right scary man. Whoever this person is we should all be careful with someone like this on the sidelines.
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.
Four S2S 2023 kids were invited to the team (doesn't the head evaluator coach for them?), four Outlaws (1 is on 2023), three kids from Express (1 is on 2023), three from GC and a bunch of FOP (friends of the Penguin).
Since i don't know the kids i just want to know if you don't think they should have made the team or not. I am not sure if your post is good or bad but you seem to have a lot of knowledge about who made it so i assume you have some knowledge of the skill set
S2S is the best team in 2023. Solidly beat Express superteam this fall.
They have to beat the Bandits to make that claim!
Boohoo! They took the best kids, get over it! P.S., my son made it and he doesn't play for igloo!
Probably b/c your son plays for S2S.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.
Four S2S 2023 kids were invited to the team (doesn't the head evaluator coach for them?), four Outlaws (1 is on 2023), three kids from Express (1 is on 2023), three from GC and a bunch of FOP (friends of the Penguin).
Since i don't know the kids i just want to know if you don't think they should have made the team or not. I am not sure if your post is good or bad but you seem to have a lot of knowledge about who made it so i assume you have some knowledge of the skill set
I've seen the list and it is NOT filled with the best talent! I know a lot of the kids chosen. There is no sour grapes, only honest knowledge.
I only saw 3 S2S players there. So you are saying none of the express, outlaws or anyone else made the team? Oh if you're talking about a 7th grade team here you must be a bit obsessed.[/quote]
Just saying that all the s2s kids made it onto the team. Make what you will of that statement.[/quote]
Four S2S 2023 kids were invited to the team (doesn't the head evaluator coach for them?), four Outlaws (1 is on 2023), three kids from Express (1 is on 2023), three from GC and a bunch of FOP (friends of the Penguin).[/quote]
Since i don't know the kids i just want to know if you don't think they should have made the team or not. I am not sure if your post is good or bad but you seem to have a lot of knowledge about who made it so i assume you have some knowledge of the skill set[/quote]
I've seen the list and it is NOT filled with the best talent! I know a lot of the kids chosen. There is no sour grapes, only honest knowledge.[/quote]
Folks are getting smart. These tournaments are not worth it (time and money) at this age group. Two year from now, different story.
Some of the top 2022s in the age group are on Express and igloo and are not participating. Same with 2021s. This tourney is old news.
The only 2022 Igloo kids that got picked were from the B team..The real igloo kids didnt participate in the tryout
not 1 2022 kid on that list is from the top 3 teams , but still a fun time for the boys enjoy !!!
no top express or 91 2022s tried out either to much other stuff in july
Where are all the TOP 2022s heading this summer? Jake Reed,Showtime. Playing in the NLF tourneys??? I have NO clue whats good or not good...
Maybe, just maybe, at this age, it's about the experience and not so much about whether you are on the A/B/C team. C'mon fellas, lighten up.
The only 2022 Igloo kids that got picked were from the B team..The real igloo kids didnt participate in the tryout
So the other boys from Igloo aren't real players? Come on. Some of the boys that are on Igloo A are only still there because their dad's are involved or have been with them from the beginning and they don't want to let them go due to loyalty factor or kissing up to AA.
Where are all the TOP 2022s heading this summer? Jake Reed,Showtime. Playing in the NLF tourneys??? I have NO clue whats good or not good...
Jake Reed and Showtime are a good start, with top talent, but this group is still two years away from true recruiting showcases.
Igloo doesn't have a B team, A and AA, Express has AA and 3 B- teams. 91 has B+, B- and C.
“Top” “Real” - sad how some people judge and label others. It is a well organized event and those participating will enjoy the experience. Have fun!
I am way behind here but sounds like there is a super exclusive 2022 team that a bunch of 2023 kids made and some 2022 B team (or igloo A as opposed to AA) made...doesn't sound like a super team. 2022 is a super strong year, no 2023 kids would make a real 2022 super team. Not would any kids from a B team. On a separate note 91 is the best team in this age bracket. You will see. Agreed they haven't played the tough teams yet, but you will see.
Reposted from 2021 thread....
Everyone complains about Holdbacks, but here’s a downright sandbag...how is it that Schreibr and Chan allow a kid that is currently in 9th grade play this past summer on Express North 2022?? Well, my kid got cut from that team and now I find out and have facts that a kid that didn’t hold back and is in HS is on 2022, these guys should be banned from all tournaments, it’s taking the holdback route to a new level! Pure cheating!
I am way behind here but sounds like there is a super exclusive 2022 team that a bunch of 2023 kids made and some 2022 B team (or igloo A as opposed to AA) made...doesn't sound like a super team. 2022 is a super strong year, no 2023 kids would make a real 2022 super team. Not would any kids from a B team. On a separate note 91 is the best team in this age bracket. You will see. Agreed they haven't played the tough teams yet, but you will see.
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So let me get this right because I must be a little slow! 91 parent talking trash about the brine team. Yes, the worriers team had the best kids on the island. And most of the kids were picked already, either express or 91 kids. And yes, 91 ran it. Oh yeah, and you could send in a video. 91 puts a bad taste in everybody's mouth! Even college coaches are staying clear of 91 recruits! You reap what you sew!
You really shouldn't drink and post, or at the very least ask your second grader to proofread your comments. Geez
Fyi there were a few kids on the 2022 warrior team that were from other clubs they took the best kids period, just so happens a majority play for express and 91,get over it!!!
So let me get this right because I must be a little slow! 91 parent talking trash about the brine team. Yes, the worriers team had the best kids on the island. And most of the kids were picked already, either express or 91 kids. And yes, 91 ran it. Oh yeah, and you could send in a video. 91 puts a bad taste in everybody's mouth! Even college coaches are staying clear of 91 recruits! You reap what you sew!
Yeah I could tell with the 91 crush team none of the Coaches want them.lololol In your post you wrote 91 5x We get it you hate 91 Nothing is worth getting that crazy. Also FYI express and 91 run the warrior games together. Spread your hate lol
So let me get this right because I must be a little slow! 91 parent talking trash about the brine team. Yes, the worriers team had the best kids on the island. And most of the kids were picked already, either express or 91 kids. And yes, 91 ran it. Oh yeah, and you could send in a video. 91 puts a bad taste in everybody's mouth! Even college coaches are staying clear of 91 recruits! You reap what you sew!
FYI Duke coaches son plays 91 and the UNC Assistant coaches a 91 team. So yeah they are certainly staying clear lol
You 91 parents are to easy, suckers , smash these nuts!!!!!
So let me get this right because I must be a little slow! 91 parent talking trash about the brine team. Yes, the worriers team had the best kids on the island. And most of the kids were picked already, either express or 91 kids. And yes, 91 ran it. Oh yeah, and you could send in a video. 91 puts a bad taste in everybody's mouth! Even college coaches are staying clear of 91 recruits! You reap what you sew!
FYI Duke coaches son plays 91 and the UNC Assistant coaches a 91 team. So yeah they are certainly staying clear lol
Oh yeah? Duke coaches son flys up here every week to play youth lacrosse?
So let me get this right because I must be a little slow! 91 parent talking trash about the brine team. Yes, the worriers team had the best kids on the island. And most of the kids were picked already, either express or 91 kids. And yes, 91 ran it. Oh yeah, and you could send in a video. 91 puts a bad taste in everybody's mouth! Even college coaches are staying clear of 91 recruits! You reap what you sew!
FYI Duke coaches son plays 91 and the UNC Assistant coaches a 91 team. So yeah they are certainly staying clear lol
Oh yeah? Duke coaches son flys up here every week to play youth lacrosse?
You are so ignorant. The son of a Duke assistant coach plays for 91 HS aged Long Island team. He plays with them during the summer circuit and has for years. Every major college is sending coaches to watch the 2019-2021 91 teams play. No one cares about 2022s yet, so take the pressure off your son and let him enjoy the season.
Isn't that in the tryout information for 91, your parent must be a jackass!
Isn't that in the tryout information for 91, your parent must be a jackass!
Isn't that in the tryout information for 91, your parent must be a jackass!
No, not written in the tryout information. Just known by all.
no top express or 91 2022s tried out either to much other stuff in july
Well we all know 91 will be at Warrior - teams are already picked via video tape - not going to give them my money again.....
The only 2022 Igloo kids that got picked were from the B team..The real igloo kids didnt participate in the tryout
Get your facts straight, there are 3 boys from the TOP igloo team on the Long Island team
91 will never be able to hang with igloo and express next summer! They only have 3 or 4 really good players, the others teams have at least a full first string that are just as good!
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
You obviously are clueless about Box lacrosse, but thanks for your statement about one of the best Box teams in the US.
Know plenty about box game. Probably more than you. But 99.9% of the conversations on this forum are about the field game. So does anyone know what the score was? And like I said, score has no significance on who the the better field team is. And your statement about this team being one of the best box teams in the US is idiotic. 2022 buddy. Simmer down. Handful of box teams.
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
You obviously are clueless about Box lacrosse, but thanks for your statement about one of the best Box teams in the US.
91 Smash looked much improved, bigger and faster. Express looked exactly the same, great team but doesn't look like the improved.
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
You obviously are clueless about Box lacrosse, but thanks for your statement about one of the best Box teams in the US.
91 Smash looked much improved, bigger and faster. Express looked exactly the same, great team but doesn't look like the improved.
expressed looked like a deer in head lights !!! Def have seen Express play better. (! looked really good.
How would you know about box! When you were their age you rode a donkey to school!
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
Looks like 91 is going the MD route, if you can't beat them get a bunch of holdbacks that can.
Is it true that 91 destroyed express in a box game this weekend. What was the score. Before everyone gets crazy I know it's a box game and means nothing.
Looks like 91 is going the MD route, if you can't beat them get a bunch of holdbacks that can.
Yeah, their Bandits and other Box teams look like abnormally big players, and I mean abnormally huge to the other age based teams.
Bandits are extremely small. Regardless think it's greatvteams on LI are doing stuff like this.
Bandits are extremely small. Regardless think it's greatvteams on LI are doing stuff like this.
Bandits are extremely small. Regardless think it's greatvteams on LI are doing stuff like this.
They are not small except owners kids.
Do many club teams play spring tournaments or mostly summer. New to area
With middle school sports now most teams will only play one or two tournaments in the spring mostly summer
Does anyone know how many practices per week the club teams have during Middle School lacrosse season? and is it done on the weekend since most Middle School coaches frown on club practice during their season?
Does anyone know how many practices per week the club teams have during Middle School lacrosse season? and is it done on the weekend since most Middle School coaches frown on club practice during their season?
My sons' teams go once every other week on weekends in March through mid-April, and then up it to once a week until May, and then they go as many as two times week. Both my boys also play with their PAL teams, as do most of their teammates, so they are playing lax more than 7 x per week when it's all added up.
Is Showtime really sold out already????
Is Showtime really sold out already????
what does the website say?
Is Showtime really sold out already????
Is Showtime really sold out already????
Showtime has likely ben sold out for months.
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
Looks like dates of Showtime and UA conflict
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
For some people this site is the only source for lax nformation on longisland, if you don't know what you are talking about then don't post!!!!
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
That's why the best players are NOT trying out. Money grabbbbbb
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
That's why the best players are NOT trying out. Money grabbbbbb
But the best players are on the best teams and from what you are saying they are already a shoe in, the second rated players are the ones that don't have a chance since they only take the kids from the A teams, right?
Oh, pre picked teams! They must have taken a page out of 91's book! Can you submit a video?
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
That's why the best players are NOT trying out. Money grabbbbbb
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
That's why the best players are NOT trying out. Money grabbbbbb
Does Showtime ever post a roster of kids who are attending ???
Nope and it's all invite only via clubs. So based on my older boys experience, if you're son is not on an A team or plays for 2nd tier club, it's near impossible to get an invite. Same for UA.
UA isn't invite. You just go to the website and sign up to tryout.
Correct, I partially misspoke. But the chances of being invited to the team after tryouts, increase or decrease depending on the club you son plays for.
You really think so? If thats the case why bother trying out if you are on the second team somewhere
That's why the best players are NOT trying out. Money grabbbbbb
You may want to re-think this. If your son is one of the best players, you want him at this event. Showtime and UA are the best recruitment tournaments out there. If you have a chance to attend, go for it.
There is a lot of events out there. Some are good value and some not. However, Maverick is not a money grab. It is the best showcase in my opinion and the opinion of many. And super competitive to get into. It's usually the best 4 or 5 players on the TOP clubs. UA is very good as well, but that's a different selection process. In the Fall it''s Fall Philly Showcase. Adrenaline Black Card is initiation only as well and very good. You usually will need assistance from your club coach to get into some events, so spend that political capital wisely.
I have been to the Showtime camp all American final game as a spectator and can tell you that all of the top head coaches (not assistants) are on the sidelines watching that game. The camp is pricey but is absolutely high end and for the very best recruits as this is invite only. I'm guessing the top D1, D2 and D3 coaches know this and all of them attend. If you get a chance go up and watch the final game and you will see what I'm talking about. The camp is held in Ct.
Is there a need to bring an 8th grader to this camp?
Is there a need to bring an 8th grader to this camp?
One advantage to going early is that if your son performs well he will get direct invites to come back, but from a recruiting stand point, just an opinion but I would say for 2022 very early. I do agree that Show Time and UA are by far two the best most competitive events out there.
Blackcard in DE also good. One day and half the price of Showtime.
Is there a good camp for kids who want to smoke bong hits in college and chase girls in between studying in anticipation of graduating and NOT playing professional lacrosse but instead working on Wall Street and making a lot of money?
Hahahahaha, just what this site needs, levity!
Is there a good camp for kids who want to smoke bong hits in college and chase girls in between studying in anticipation of graduating and NOT playing professional lacrosse but instead working on Wall Street and making a lot of money?
LOL
Is there a good camp for kids who want to smoke bong hits in college and chase girls in between studying in anticipation of graduating and NOT playing professional lacrosse but instead working on Wall Street and making a lot of money?
heck I want to go to that camp.
I have been to the Showtime camp all American final game as a spectator and can tell you that all of the top head coaches (not assistants) are on the sidelines watching that game. The camp is pricey but is absolutely high end and for the very best recruits as this is invite only. I'm guessing the top D1, D2 and D3 coaches know this and all of them attend. If you get a chance go up and watch the final game and you will see what I'm talking about. The camp is held in Ct.
My Oldest boy is '22 so I am new to this. How do you get an invite? He plays on the "A" team of one of the big clubs and didn't and didn't know anything about it. How do you get an invite? How many invite do the big clubs get? The UA Showcase is for '21s and '22s so what are the chances of a '22 making it? Thanks for your help.
You parents Ned to stop chasing it! Take it from a parent who has been through the process once already. If your son is good they will find him!
You parents Ned to stop chasing it! Take it from a parent who has been through the process once already. If your son is good they will find him!
And I can tell you from another parent with experience with an older child. Chase it... but only if your son wants it. Because there is a spot on a roster for every kid. And with good grades, your son will get merit money. And after the top 15 D1 programs - D3 is a great option. Less commitment, more time to enjoy the college life, a lot of good academic scholarships available, great schools, and the same chance to play on Memorial day. Ask yourself, would like to see your son playing at a school in the NESCAC like Tufts or Wesleyan and making it to the final 4 or at a D1 program that averages 3 wins.
I have been to the Showtime camp all American final game as a spectator and can tell you that all of the top head coaches (not assistants) are on the sidelines watching that game. The camp is pricey but is absolutely high end and for the very best recruits as this is invite only. I'm guessing the top D1, D2 and D3 coaches know this and all of them attend. If you get a chance go up and watch the final game and you will see what I'm talking about. The camp is held in Ct.
My Oldest boy is '22 so I am new to this. How do you get an invite? He plays on the "A" team of one of the big clubs and didn't and didn't know anything about it. How do you get an invite? How many invite do the big clubs get? The UA Showcase is for '21s and '22s so what are the chances of a '22 making it? Thanks for your help.
First, I agree with the Maverik Showtime being the top showcase followed by the Adrenaline Black Card, NXT Philly Fall Showcase and then the D1 Und1sputed Showcase here on LI - these events are the top showcases specifically if you are looking to be seen by the D1 colleges. I know that the Showtime and Black Card do not pay for the coaches to attend because the have built such a great reputation and it's a must attend event for them to see arguably the best players in the country. There are a lot of other good showcases out there but one thing I look for is the number of players they are accepting or inviting and the number of coaches. A lot of events will say 50 college coaches will be there but neglect to mention that they are taking 480-520 kids on 5 fields so do the math to see the player to coach ratio and check how close or how far the fields are (very difficult to find 5 adjacent fields).
Under the 'Locker Room' Forum, there is a thread there for 'Individual Showcases' and where you will get more insightful responses vs some of these immature comments. Any other questions, I recommend going there for this specific topic.
To answer your question, for the Showtime event and a lot of the other top showcases, you have to get endorsed by your sons h.s. or club coach so depending on which team he or anyone is on, that may not help at all...there is obviously nepotism that takes places and they will allocate 2-5 spots per top tier club so unless the player is a standout, I hate to say 'Good luck.' Additionally, they like to see highlight tapes so they can decide internally on top of seeing accolades and/or getting a nomination when sending out invites. In regards to the UA Showcase, I honestly do not know anything about that one...must be a new event.
Is there a good camp for kids who want to smoke bong hits in college and chase girls in between studying in anticipation of graduating and NOT playing professional lacrosse but instead working on Wall Street and making a lot of money?
Haha no, but plenty of High Schools can prep you for that. Even the ones you pay for
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
Most of that warthog team is the MD portion of the Dukes/Koopers (D1 coaches kids and others from Koopers 2021).
Igloo never played one box game in their lives, handful of parents wanted to give it a try.
Legacy AA lost to a school team monday, priceless!
What do you mean "by a school team"? If it was a high school team they should lose
Legacy AA lost to a school team monday, priceless!
So the last two posts were about gloating over teams that lost... think about that for a second and explain why that's priceless to take joy in the loss of a youth lacrosse game?
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo is not a Box club. It's a whole different sport with different rules and IQ. Maybe the kids on the other teams are Box players. You should know that since you're spewing nonsense in your post.
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo is not a Box club. It's a whole different sport with different rules and IQ. Maybe the kids on the other teams are Box players. You should know that since you're spewing nonsense in your post.
No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense
What do you mean "by a school team"? If it was a high school team they should lose
why are you replying to your own post ????
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo is not a Box club. It's a whole different sport with different rules and IQ. Maybe the kids on the other teams are Box players. You should know that since you're spewing nonsense in your post.
No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense
Just played a MD Box team this weekend called Lax Factory and they were awesome. You're dillusional and stupid.
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo is not a Box club. It's a whole different sport with different rules and IQ. Maybe the kids on the other teams are Box players. You should know that since you're spewing nonsense in your post.
No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense
Just played a MD Box team this weekend called Lax Factory and they were awesome. You're dillusional and stupid.
Lax Factory is an outdoor club team that decided to play box this winter. Just like igloo. Always funny when someone calls someone else stupid in a sentence that contains a misspelled word.
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No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense[/quote]
Just played a MD Box team this weekend called Lax Factory and they were awesome. You're dillusional and stupid. [/quote]
Lax Factory is an outdoor club team that decided to play box this winter. Just like igloo. Always funny when someone calls someone else stupid in a sentence that contains a misspelled word.[/quote]
I am not even invested in this thread, but so what. So, Igloo isn't as good at Box as some other non-Box teams. Who gives a [ChillLaxin]?!
Not sure what the point is about Legacy losing a box game? What’s the big deal?
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No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense
Just played a MD Box team this weekend called Lax Factory and they were awesome. You're dillusional and stupid. [/quote]
Lax Factory is an outdoor club team that decided to play box this winter. Just like igloo. Always funny when someone calls someone else stupid in a sentence that contains a misspelled word.[/quote]
I am not even invested in this thread, but so what. So, Igloo isn't as good at Box as some other non-Box teams. Who gives a [ChillLaxin]?![/quote]
Because the jerk off thinks it's important to spew fake news. He's obviously upset that his kid couldn't make Igloo.
Igloo never played one box game in their lives, handful of parents wanted to give it a try.
And trust me their is a HUGE difference between box and field. I have seen my sons team lose to a team like Annapolis, Freedom, Mesa, etc on the field then turn around and beat then in box.
Very different game and those coached by box players are better prepared - 91 MD, PennLax, etc
Igloo lost 10-1 to Baltimore warthogs in box today
So what's your point?
Point is they got beat easily by DCE and Warthogs. Both teams very new to Box
Igloo is not a Box club. It's a whole different sport with different rules and IQ. Maybe the kids on the other teams are Box players. You should know that since you're spewing nonsense in your post.
No kids are box players in MD. The team was just formed this fall. Come up with a new excuse or keep spewing your own nonsense
Just played a MD Box team this weekend called Lax Factory and they were awesome. You're dillusional and stupid.
Lax Factory is a long time box team with box players as coaches. Good team
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
Is the Chan 1 and 2 broken up evenly for Bethpage?
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
What did he do that was so bad? I was there and he was a gentleman so please explain, or are you stirring the pot?
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
Why don’t you act like a man and say it to his face ? Scared?
Is the Chan 1 and 2 broken up evenly for Bethpage?
Just saw the scores and question answered.
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
Why don’t you act like a man and say it to his face ? Scared?
Says the anonymous poster
No one takes pride in kids losing on youth lacrosse. It's the [ChillLaxin]whole owner they root against! Zummo is a total POS!
No one takes pride in kids losing on youth lacrosse. It's the [ChillLaxin]whole owner they root against! Zummo is a total POS!
FAKE NEWS
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
Why don’t you act like a man and say it to his face ? Scared?
Says the anonymous poster
Address that, but hide from the man you insult! You must be very brave
Fake news my [ChillLaxin]He coached us last year and was a total waste of time and money. His selection process is mind blowing, we are in 9D1 now and it's do much more professional
Fake news my [ChillLaxin]He coached us last year and was a total waste of time and money. His selection process is mind blowing, we are in 9D1 now and it's do much more professional
I thought your kid was in Legacy now. Way to disguise it but you're too stupid.
Igloo should of sent their outdoor coaches instead of little penguin - he is an embarrassment to that club. Easily top 3 jerks on any sideline in the country
Why don’t you act like a man and say it to his face ? Scared?
Says the anonymous poster
Address that, but hide from the man you insult! You must be very brave
Says the anonymous poster
Friars incoming 2022 class should be a solid group. Heard the Flyers are equally as fortunate.
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Friars incoming 2022 class should be a solid group. Heard the Flyers are equally as fortunate.
Absolutely ridiculous post! Th next 4 years will be a great ride for all of these kids(22), let them enjoy with out being graded like cattle! Give it a break!
Friars incoming 2022 class should be a solid group. Heard the Flyers are equally as fortunate.
Absolutely ridiculous post! Th next 4 years will be a great ride for all of these kids(22), let them enjoy with out being graded like cattle! Give it a break!
Lol.
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
A lot and Kellenberg as well.
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
I heard the kids from Manhasset and Texas are not going. A few from both 91 and igloo are also going.
I heard 91 is training,training, and more training and will crush everybody this spring!
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
There's a good mix
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
There's a good mix
It's same most years.
Who’s going to the Friars? Looks like everyone is becoming a Flyer
Everyone from a particular club maybe, but there some Suffolk clubs with kids who can cradle, catch and throw.
Which particular club would that be?
How many kids from Express play on the Flyers or St A's?
There's a good mix
It changes as well. A lot kids take the test then understandably choose to stay in district as the deadline to register comes very quickly.
I heard the other day the the Outlaws have been sold and major changes are coming!, New name, new coaches, new everything!
What's the deal with the Elite 100 in Mass? Money grab like the rest? Send out invites to everybody and see who comes? Or do they really cap it at 100 invited kids?
is this your first rodeo?
showtime,UA,blackcard and Jake reed only good recruiting camps/showcases for 2022s..IMHO
Who cares about the Outlaws? They haven't been good in a LONG LONG time!
Who cares about the Outlaws? They haven't been good in a LONG LONG time!
Another brain surgeon who doesn't comprehend the use of the quote button...
Who cares about the Outlaws? They haven't been good in a LONG LONG time!
Another brain surgeon who doesn't comprehend the use of the quote button...
Really are we still taking about the Outlaws? A mediocre team that claims to be an AA team. That's the joke of it all. They will re-brand and still stink !!!
For the price of $100 for four hours, the Danbury one was very good. Total involvement by coaches, lots of solid and varying drills. As far as recruitment, was a great start for my son. Not a full field of colleges represented but was enough to get things going.
We would do it again.
Ok, we will finally admit it. Outlaws is is a B level team (high B level) but the Outlaw Mom's compete at the A level. Love that nearly half the mom's on my son's team got the outlaw tattoo on the smalls of their back and are proud to show it off. Looking forward to the next away tournament and taking over the Holiday Inn Express pool. Show your Outlaw pride.
Winner!!! Winner!!! Chicken Dinner!!! You just won the biggest [ChillLaxin] on BOTC award
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
Hey, wait one minute 91! Express isn't gonna let you get away with this! We're gonna run a 80 man rooster and fly some 6' 5 kids from Texas,haha!
Hey, wait one minute 91! Express isn't gonna let you get away with this! We're gonna run a 80 man rooster and fly some 6' 5 kids from Texas,haha!
wow LUNACY is taking over
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
Lol, you probably posted the same thing when super team was formed and when they were smash in 3rd, 4th and 5th grade. Thanks for the comic relief..
showtime,UA,blackcard and Jake reed only good recruiting camps/showcases for 2022s..IMHO
What’s the chance a 22 makes the UA team competeing with the 21s?
We also have a kid coming in from Indiana--not just Texas my friend. We will have the best team and ANY stud from any team is welcome to jump ship to the best program, just have to be able to bring it.
You all complain about the Dukes but you are the same. Express and 91 have numerous out of state players. All star teams. Hand picked. No tryouts necessary. Neither should have the name Long Island associated with them. Shameful. Igloo stil top Long Island team.
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
Too funny. Its the best team by far and its a new team in the same post!
Why? The new team can't be the best team? You'll see and it won't be close
This team has been struggling for the last few seasons! Everybody knows they brought in a ringer so stop!
Igloo is no better. They left half their team behind and brought older kids to the World Series. All top teams do whatever it takes to win. If you believe otherwise you are a fool.
You all complain about the Dukes but you are the same. Express and 91 have numerous out of state players. All star teams. Hand picked. No tryouts necessary. Neither should have the name Long Island associated with them. Shameful. Igloo stil top Long Island team.
You all complain about the Dukes but you are the same. Express and 91 have numerous out of state players. All star teams. Hand picked. No tryouts necessary. Neither should have the name Long Island associated with them. Shameful. Igloo stil top Long Island team.
You all complain about the Dukes but you are the same. Express and 91 have numerous out of state players. All star teams. Hand picked. No tryouts necessary. Neither should have the name Long Island associated with them. Shameful. Igloo stil top Long Island team.
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
let’s look at it this way. If your not a D1 lacrosse team than you are a D 2 . If you are not a D2 team than you are a D3. Team. Simple .
I'm not really sure how an on age local player is considered a ringer
Ah yes they did. But all were eligible for the tournament. And all were from Long Island. Those other 2 teams are NATIONAL squads just like the dukes
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
let’s look at it this way. If your not a D1 lacrosse team than you are a D 2 . If you are not a D2 team than you are a D3. Team. Simple .
Yeah so simple. 91 at this grade has zero achievements since 5th grade. Thanks to the decisions made to break something that wasn't broken. For the kids, I hope they are successful this season. Because these rankings, satements, wins, etc... mean nothing except to the few parents who need to say their kid is on the best team.
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
let’s look at it this way. If your not a D1 lacrosse team than you are a D 2 . If you are not a D2 team than you are a D3. Team. Simple .
That analogy is bad all around: 1. There are plenty of D III teams that are better than a lot of D II teams; the top D II teams similarly may be better than many weaker D I teams. 2. Divisional play is dictated by external factors (NCAA rules regarding school athletic programs in general) as well school internals factors (IE, financial considerations - scholarships). Within D I, II, and III, there are good teams and bad teams, but yet the bad teams are still in their respective division. 4. Club lacrosse has no formal divisions AT ALL - it is completely self-designated.
[quote=Anonymous]You all complain about the Dukes but you are the same. Express and 91 have numerous out of state players. All star teams. Hand picked. No tryouts necessary. Neither should have the name Long Island associated with them. Shameful. Igloo stil top Long Island team.
Based on reputation no players or parents from other states want to be a part of igloo but keep hyping your elite showcase
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
let’s look at it this way. If your not a D1 lacrosse team than you are a D 2 . If you are not a D2 team than you are a D3. Team. Simple .
That analogy is bad all around: 1. There are plenty of D III teams that are better than a lot of D II teams; the top D II teams similarly may be better than many weaker D I teams. 2. Divisional play is dictated by external factors (NCAA rules regarding school athletic programs in general) as well school internals factors (IE, financial considerations - scholarships). Within D I, II, and III, there are good teams and bad teams, but yet the bad teams are still in their respective division. 4. Club lacrosse has no formal divisions AT ALL - it is completely self-designated.
Club lacrosse self designates. A coach puts their team in an A , B bracket over a period of time an winning and losing by goal differential will determine where you should be. Than you try and build from there. I wish there was some form of a league play like soccer. I believe that would really start to bring lacrosse to the next level.
And do really think in your pea brains that the college coaches care what team your kid played for in 8th grade? The finished product is what matters!
91 by far the best team in this grade. Then igloo with express close behind them. Then Outlaws legacy and 2nd igloo team all can compete. After that it's all B teams. Big difference between top 3 and next 3. And an even bigger difference between 2nd 3 and the rest. Top 6 teams are very good teams. stop bashing them. And like I said 91 will be the dominate team. New year new team. Best team in grade.
And there we have it - the "there are only 5 A teams on LI and the rest are B" comment. It's funny, because this theme is starting to pervade all of the pre-HS age boards on the BOTC. Yet, if you think about it - really think about it - this cannot be the case on LI. Yeah, I get it if it were somewhere else where lacrosse is newer to the area. But the idea that every pre-HS grade on LI is generally weak after 2 - 3 teams is beyond dumb (and I say that in the most generous way)! On the other side of the equation, the possibility that there are some really, really good teams at many of the age groups on LI is great. BUT, that does not make those teams that cannot compete with those great teams B. Those two assessments are NOT the same.
let’s look at it this way. If your not a D1 lacrosse team than you are a D 2 . If you are not a D2 team than you are a D3. Team. Simple .
That analogy is bad all around: 1. There are plenty of D III teams that are better than a lot of D II teams; the top D II teams similarly may be better than many weaker D I teams. 2. Divisional play is dictated by external factors (NCAA rules regarding school athletic programs in general) as well school internals factors (IE, financial considerations - scholarships). Within D I, II, and III, there are good teams and bad teams, but yet the bad teams are still in their respective division. 4. Club lacrosse has no formal divisions AT ALL - it is completely self-designated.
Club lacrosse self designates. A coach puts their team in an A , B bracket over a period of time an winning and losing by goal differential will determine where you should be. Than you try and build from there. I wish there was some form of a league play like soccer. I believe that would really start to bring lacrosse to the next level.
When you take into account the varying ages across locales that come into play in a grade-based structure, that is the first problem in establishing formal, tiered play. Add in no governance to the exiting system, and now it's just a futile effort. There is absolutely no way there can ever be any progress that you alluding to until the foundation problems of the sport are corrected first. So far, USL has been largely ineffective, and that's being kind to them!
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
I know iam late on commenting on this thread, just rejoined maybe out of curiosity , since my son is playing college lacrosse I kind of miss his youth years. I just have to say my son didn't play for the best school program,we didn't get involved in the whole travel team thing. We played PAL Lacrosse under our districts name because he wanted to play with the kids he would be going to school with. His HS school coach had his team in recruiting tournaments and none recruiting. His team always held their own. When my son was of recruiting age/grade he would find out what coaches would be attending the tournaments and he would reach out to them with an email stating his interest in the school, his stats and send films. He also participated in the Long Island Rising. He did finally make the team as a rising senior where Suffolk plays nassau. My son who attended William Floyd Hs was recruited by D2 NYIT and did receive an athletic scholarship as well as academic. Plenty of kids get recruited and receive schloarships. LONG ISLAND IS A HOT BED FOR LACROSSE, COACHES START ON THE ISLAND,GO AROUND TO OTHER AREAS AND FINISH ON THE ISLAND. And NYIT wasn't the only school to show interest and make offers. It is possible to get recruited and play college ball and get an education, plenty of kids do it. Do you think you can go up to Petramala , Rotanz,Dunn or any D123 coach and say Hey can i join the team . All those kids are recruited
fl$ @ NXT best dressed coach of the tournament. Million worst behaved; again.
fl$ @ NXT best dressed coach of the tournament. Million worst behaved; again.
Worst. Behaved and Lost again!
fl$ @ NXT best dressed coach of the tournament. Million worst behaved; again.
I thought the Millon stuff was an exaggeration, but he is out of control. You would think it was the Super Bowl the way he carries on.
I'm not really sure how an on age local player is considered a ringer
Do you mean on grade?
Referee called game vs Igloo with 40 seconds left after a 91md cracked a kid twice. Millon acted like he had a plan to comeback from a 4 goal deficit with under a minute to play. Such a child. ref was right. vicious slashes
Referee called game vs Igloo with 40 seconds left after a 91md cracked a kid twice. Millon acted like he had a plan to comeback from a 4 goal deficit with under a minute to play. Such a child. ref was right. vicious slashes
Vicious slashes was probably his plan.
fl$ @ NXT best dressed coach of the tournament. Million worst behaved; again.
I am curious why FLGEE isn't able to compete with top teams any longer. They seem well organized, well run and have a national recruiting program.
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Suffolk communities may one to town club, but not Nassau - for the most part, town clubs are are relegated to the larger districts. Boys play PAL & club.
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Don't blame USL?? You either are or you're not the effective governing body for the youth sport. USL has the trump card to move past this issue IF THEY WANT TO - they obviously chose not to. That equals weak/ineffectivess. Instead, they chose to slow walk it, and even then, there is no formal plan that effectively transitions from grade- to age-based for all by a specific date. You could let them slide if they were the first to go through this issue, but the fact remains that they are last in a long line of youth sports to address this and have all of thwt history to draw upon to do it expediently and right. That, in a nutshell, is why the blame lays with them. And, lastly, the business model argument rings hollow. Growing the sport - attracting more athletes, keeping more of the ones you have - leads to an associated business growth model as well. It may mean that some of the business players change with new entries to the market - loss of share and/or power - but there would be more money to be made for all IF you run your business right. Again, USL is letting the tail wag the dog - that is NOT an character indicative of an effective governing organization.
Referee called game vs Igloo with 40 seconds left after a 91md cracked a kid twice. Millon acted like he had a plan to comeback from a 4 goal deficit with under a minute to play. Such a child. ref was right. vicious slashes
"Break their arms"
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Don't blame USL?? You either are or you're not the effective governing body for the youth sport. USL has the trump card to move past this issue IF THEY WANT TO - they obviously chose not to. That equals weak/ineffectivess. Instead, they chose to slow walk it, and even then, there is no formal plan that effectively transitions from grade- to age-based for all by a specific date. You could let them slide if they were the first to go through this issue, but the fact remains that they are last in a long line of youth sports to address this and have all of thwt history to draw upon to do it expediently and right. That, in a nutshell, is why the blame lays with them. And, lastly, the business model argument rings hollow. Growing the sport - attracting more athletes, keeping more of the ones you have - leads to an associated business growth model as well. It may mean that some of the business players change with new entries to the market - loss of share and/or power - but there would be more money to be made for all IF you run your business right. Again, USL is letting the tail wag the dog - that is NOT an character indicative of an effective governing organization.
Okay agree to disagree, but respect your points. But what about moving forward? What about now? They have set very clear guidelines to follow. What is preventing clubs, towns and leagues from complying? I would love to at least hear PAL's opinion on this since there should be no conflicts and age is the right path to take.
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Don't blame USL?? You either are or you're not the effective governing body for the youth sport. USL has the trump card to move past this issue IF THEY WANT TO - they obviously chose not to. That equals weak/ineffectivess. Instead, they chose to slow walk it, and even then, there is no formal plan that effectively transitions from grade- to age-based for all by a specific date. You could let them slide if they were the first to go through this issue, but the fact remains that they are last in a long line of youth sports to address this and have all of thwt history to draw upon to do it expediently and right. That, in a nutshell, is why the blame lays with them. And, lastly, the business model argument rings hollow. Growing the sport - attracting more athletes, keeping more of the ones you have - leads to an associated business growth model as well. It may mean that some of the business players change with new entries to the market - loss of share and/or power - but there would be more money to be made for all IF you run your business right. Again, USL is letting the tail wag the dog - that is NOT an character indicative of an effective governing organization.
Okay agree to disagree, but respect your points. But what about moving forward? What about now? They have set very clear guidelines to follow. What is preventing clubs, towns and leagues from complying? I would love to at least hear PAL's opinion on this since there should be no conflicts and age is the right path to take.
USL has put out a very unspecific 'plan' ti implement age-based play - that encourages no one to do it. If no individual entity is going to do it on their own - whether they should or not is a separate discussion, but, to date, all if not most have not - then it is on the USL to move this forward. All of these league's require USL registration, IE, insurance, to participate. USL could make their policy(ies) via their carrier(s) only effective for age-based play and everyone would be forced to go that route. They could go off on their own and use other insurance acquired on their own, but they would be effectively jettisoning everything else related to USL as well.
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Don't blame USL?? You either are or you're not the effective governing body for the youth sport. USL has the trump card to move past this issue IF THEY WANT TO - they obviously chose not to. That equals weak/ineffectivess. Instead, they chose to slow walk it, and even then, there is no formal plan that effectively transitions from grade- to age-based for all by a specific date. You could let them slide if they were the first to go through this issue, but the fact remains that they are last in a long line of youth sports to address this and have all of thwt history to draw upon to do it expediently and right. That, in a nutshell, is why the blame lays with them. And, lastly, the business model argument rings hollow. Growing the sport - attracting more athletes, keeping more of the ones you have - leads to an associated business growth model as well. It may mean that some of the business players change with new entries to the market - loss of share and/or power - but there would be more money to be made for all IF you run your business right. Again, USL is letting the tail wag the dog - that is NOT an character indicative of an effective governing organization.
Okay agree to disagree, but respect your points. But what about moving forward? What about now? They have set very clear guidelines to follow. What is preventing clubs, towns and leagues from complying? I would love to at least hear PAL's opinion on this since there should be no conflicts and age is the right path to take.
USL has put out a very unspecific 'plan' ti implement age-based play - that encourages no one to do it. If no individual entity is going to do it on their own - whether they should or not is a separate discussion, but, to date, all if not most have not - then it is on the USL to move this forward. All of these league's require USL registration, IE, insurance, to participate. USL could make their policy(ies) via their carrier(s) only effective for age-based play and everyone would be forced to go that route. They could go off on their own and use other insurance acquired on their own, but they would be effectively jettisoning everything else related to USL as well.
agreed!! it seems so simple, Why have they not done this?
USL is an insurance company that has a big heart for lacrosse. They need revenue- and lots of it. They force insurance on the lacrosse community to substantiate their operations with very little in return for their customers. Their "governance" is focused on expanding the sport into new markets (read sell more insurance) and NOT on shaping policy. The sports most influential markets, Long Island and Baltimore, are relatively ignored by the organization. They are a Maryland insurance company, partnered with a Pennsylvania tournament operator, attempting to copy the got-soccer model of rankings and sanctioning, while simultaneously suggesting that the very clubs they need for their tournaments and rankings are out-of-control and detrimental to the sport. They want to control the sport yet fail to listen to the market place. If we weren't forced to buy their insurance, would they have any significance?
Didn't know such negative feelings for US lacrosse was out there. I give up on the debate. All you parents that held your kids back for sports, kudos, I wish I had at this point.
So igloo who never plays box played 91 smash who always plays box to an 8-6 game? Guess all the out of state ringers weren't available for this tournament. Igloo still the best Long Island team. Those other two(express and 91) have multiple players from out of state. Just saying....
Didn't know such negative feelings for US lacrosse was out there. I give up on the debate. All you parents that held your kids back for sports, kudos, I wish I had at this point.
When you reach the point of thinking you should have joined the crowd of gaming the system, you have either surrendered your values or you never had them to begin with. Values are the difference between doing what is right versus wrong because of your belief systems as opposed to doing what is right only due to the fear of being caught when doing wrong.
US Lacrosse has modified their age guidelines and entered into a partnership with NXT (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-nxt-partnership-bigger-than-one-event). It is not fair to be critical of them, they are trying. TWO years ago they changed it up. (
https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-lacrosse-adopts-new-player-segmentation-policy). Don't blame them. On Long Island it's the clubs and PAL that have the power to change this. PAL, won't do it for some reason. You would think a primary tenet of PAL would be a level playing field and player safety. Does anybody know if the board even has a position on this? A former PAL board member tried to go age and was ousted. PAL is becoming more and more irrelevant anyway, as towns just are just building and shifting to club town programs. And clubs... Why disrupt the business your model, that I understand at least.
Don't blame USL?? You either are or you're not the effective governing body for the youth sport. USL has the trump card to move past this issue IF THEY WANT TO - they obviously chose not to. That equals weak/ineffectivess. Instead, they chose to slow walk it, and even then, there is no formal plan that effectively transitions from grade- to age-based for all by a specific date. You could let them slide if they were the first to go through this issue, but the fact remains that they are last in a long line of youth sports to address this and have all of thwt history to draw upon to do it expediently and right. That, in a nutshell, is why the blame lays with them. And, lastly, the business model argument rings hollow. Growing the sport - attracting more athletes, keeping more of the ones you have - leads to an associated business growth model as well. It may mean that some of the business players change with new entries to the market - loss of share and/or power - but there would be more money to be made for all IF you run your business right. Again, USL is letting the tail wag the dog - that is NOT an character indicative of an effective governing organization.
Okay agree to disagree, but respect your points. But what about moving forward? What about now? They have set very clear guidelines to follow. What is preventing clubs, towns and leagues from complying? I would love to at least hear PAL's opinion on this since there should be no conflicts and age is the right path to take.
USL has put out a very unspecific 'plan' ti implement age-based play - that encourages no one to do it. If no individual entity is going to do it on their own - whether they should or not is a separate discussion, but, to date, all if not most have not - then it is on the USL to move this forward. All of these league's require USL registration, IE, insurance, to participate. USL could make their policy(ies) via their carrier(s) only effective for age-based play and everyone would be forced to go that route. They could go off on their own and use other insurance acquired on their own, but they would be effectively jettisoning everything else related to USL as well.
agreed!! it seems so simple, Why have they not done this?
why not just play your birth year 04's with 04's etc.
Didn't know such negative feelings for US lacrosse was out there. I give up on the debate. All you parents that held your kids back for sports, kudos, I wish I had at this point.
When you reach the point of thinking you should have joined the crowd of gaming the system, you have either surrendered your values or you never had them to begin with. Values are the difference between doing what is right versus wrong because of your belief systems as opposed to doing what is right only due to the fear of being caught when doing wrong.
I have learned youth lax checks their values at the door. Zero life lessons are taught. It's all about winning at all cost.
So igloo who never plays box played 91 smash who always plays box to an 8-6 game? Guess all the out of state ringers weren't available for this tournament. Igloo still the best Long Island team. Those other two(express and 91) have multiple players from out of state. Just saying....
Congratulations Igloo for losing to Smash. You're #1. When you lose you should just keep your mouth Shut.
Does anybody know what happens if your school is unable to offer a JV program for lacrosse?
Not a 91 supporter actually dislike them but are you bragging about losing a game because you kept it close !!! Oh man we have hit the bottom. The actual rumor was igloo combined and grabbed some teams from other clubs please state the facts. But oh yeah we only LOST by 2 lololol ok dad
So igloo who never plays box played 91 smash who always plays box to an 8-6 game? Guess all the out of state ringers weren't available for this tournament. Igloo still the best Long Island team. Those other two(express and 91) have multiple players from out of state. Just saying....
Congratulations Igloo for losing to Smash. You're #1. When you lose you should just keep your mouth Shut.
Was it the first time igloo ever played box. Maybe the team should get a BOTC runner up trophy and t-shirts for the parents
So now you are stating "the rumor is" as fact and telling others to get their facts straight. Now that's funny.
We’re (Igloo) number one for losing by two!!!!!!!
Going to be fun watching the elitist Igloo parents cry when the Smash boys toss them a beating outdoors. Then what.
Does anybody know what happens if your school is unable to offer a JV program for lacrosse?
Ummm . . . then you don't have a JV team, and everyone dresses for and 'plays' varsity! What alternative would you be looking for??
So igloo who never plays box played 91 smash who always plays box to an 8-6 game? Guess all the out of state ringers weren't available for this tournament. Igloo still the best Long Island team. Those other two(express and 91) have multiple players from out of state. Just saying....
This is funny, thanks for sharing your thoughts on your team Igloo and those other two teams. Freaking hilarious
So igloo who never plays box played 91 smash who always plays box to an 8-6 game? Guess all the out of state ringers weren't available for this tournament. Igloo still the best Long Island team. Those other two(express and 91) have multiple players from out of state. Just saying....
This is funny, thanks for sharing your thoughts on your team Igloo and those other two teams. Freaking hilarious
Funny Express won the WSYL with all Long Island players.
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Facts: Express lost to 91MD by 1 goal overtime in quarters are Millon last summer and beat Igloo 3 times this past fall season
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Is Igloo a club solely for LI players? Not understanding the pounding of the chest here. It is club lacrosse where you pay to play. My bet is if an outsider stud wanted to play for Igloo this summer he would not be turned away.
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Is Igloo a club solely for LI players? Not understanding the pounding of the chest here. It is club lacrosse where you pay to play. My bet is if an outsider stud wanted to play for Igloo this summer he would not be turned away.
Funny choice of words “pay” “outsider” “turned away”. It was just last year that the 2022 Igloo team had a handful of players who committed to the team and whose parents paid for the year but sadly the boys were turned away from the world series because 2021 Igloo outsiders replaced them
Fact-express did not get out of the first round at millon. You can call it quarter finals. Still first round. And they beat igloo with players from all over the country. Midwest, south, north. Everywhere. No pounding of chest. Just stating facts that igloo is the best Long Island team. Didn't have to go recruit from all over just to beat igloo. Like express did. Won't put the LI in front of express since they are a national team now. Maybe they will be able to compete with dukes now and not be emabarrassed again like the last time.
Fact-express did not get out of the first round at millon. You can call it quarter finals. Still first round. And they beat igloo with players from all over the country. Midwest, south, north. Everywhere. No pounding of chest. Just stating facts that igloo is the best Long Island team. Didn't have to go recruit from all over just to beat igloo. Like express did. Won't put the LI in front of express since they are a national team now. Maybe they will be able to compete with dukes now and not be emabarrassed again like the last time.
How did igloo do at the World Series again? I missed that. Express has won more tourneys than any other 2022 team in the last two years. Including the original elite 8.
Fact-express did not get out of the first round at millon. You can call it quarter finals. Still first round. And they beat igloo with players from all over the country. Midwest, south, north. Everywhere. No pounding of chest. Just stating facts that igloo is the best Long Island team. Didn't have to go recruit from all over just to beat igloo. Like express did. Won't put the LI in front of express since they are a national team now. Maybe they will be able to compete with dukes now and not be emabarrassed again like the last time.
you contradict yourself in your own words. check tourneymachine and you will see that express went 3 & 0 in division play and lost in round of 8. favorite millon tournament memory was when igloo went 0 & 3 at the inaugural event. you should be reminded that express beat duke’s last may at the ncaa futures championship tournament. stop before you do anything else to embarrass yourself
Fact-express did not get out of the first round at millon. You can call it quarter finals. Still first round. And they beat igloo with players from all over the country. Midwest, south, north. Everywhere. No pounding of chest. Just stating facts that igloo is the best Long Island team. Didn't have to go recruit from all over just to beat igloo. Like express did. Won't put the LI in front of express since they are a national team now. Maybe they will be able to compete with dukes now and not be emabarrassed again like the last time.
How did igloo do at the World Series again? I missed that. Express has won more tourneys than any other 2022 team in the last two years. Including the original elite 8.
Maybe more than any other NY team but not every 2022 team. (Annapolis)
That's because they don't let igloo in any of their tournaments. How many times can you play prime time?
Fall Jam Express 9-4 pool play and 8-7 ship (and wasn't that close) over Igloo. Was that the last time these two teams faced?
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
From LIE: those were special circumstances and thank God that the boy is recovering. Everyone wishes him good health
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
WOW you're a special kind of crazy. This should not even be a statement that this kid got hurt. They did not pull a goalie and replace him with someone not on the roster. You really wanted to penalize that team because a kid got hurt and the tournament director did what was right. I guess you wanted them to pack up and head back home because that was really the right thing to do?
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
WOW you're a special kind of crazy. This should not even be a statement that this kid got hurt. They did not pull a goalie and replace him with someone not on the roster. You really wanted to penalize that team because a kid got hurt and the tournament director did what was right. I guess you wanted them to pack up and head back home because that was really the right thing to do?
Ladies Ladies please give it a rest. Lets all get back to Smashing Deez Nuts!!!!!!
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
WOW you're a special kind of crazy. This should not even be a statement that this kid got hurt. They did not pull a goalie and replace him with someone not on the roster. You really wanted to penalize that team because a kid got hurt and the tournament director did what was right. I guess you wanted them to pack up and head back home because that was really the right thing to do?
Not that its a huge deal because it was 7th grade lacrosse, but they should have dressed and played another player on the approved roster, or came with 2 goalies like every other team. That is what would have been supported under the rules. Because that was really the right thing to do! They said they pulled up a 2023 goalie and the kid that showed up and played was an inch taller than the actual goal and probably 170 lbs and wound up playing better than the original goalie before he was injured. Regardless, that is why you have rules, to end speculation. That goalie wound up winning the game for igloo. He stuffed about 4 point blank shots on the doorstep.
Igloo had some good wins last year but to try and say they are the best team is simply a joke. There is at least 3 teams that where better last year. Express,Dukes, Hawks. These teams were clear and above everyone else.
Most teams because of the age requirement that was changed mid year could not send a team to WSYL because they stayed loyal to the players on their team. Igloo is the only team to completely screw their players and families and send a team not their own. So lets save the chest pounding,Igloo is the only true LI team - in the world of club lacrosse it means nothing especially after you treat families that way!
Igloo had some good wins last year but to try and say they are the best team is simply a joke. There is at least 3 teams that where better last year. Express,Dukes, Hawks. These teams were clear and above everyone else.
Most teams because of the age requirement that was changed mid year could not send a team to WSYL because they stayed loyal to the players on their team. Igloo is the only team to completely screw their players and families and send a team not their own. So lets save the chest pounding,Igloo is the only true LI team - in the world of club lacrosse it means nothing especially after you treat families that way!
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Question for you express backers: how many 2022's are they taking to wsyl this year? I know of at least 3 players not on AJ 's team playing for that team this year. But it's all right now I guess. Stop with the holier than thou act. Its nauseating. And igloo won the biggest 2022 tournament of the summer. Express didn't. Please don't say wsyl was because it wasn't close. Competition was terrible. And please don't ask why igloo didn't win because you could ask same thing about express at Millon. Igloo is the best LONG ISLAND team. Express is a national team. They should beat local teams.
Question for you express backers: how many 2022's are they taking to wsyl this year? I know of at least 3 players not on AJ 's team playing for that team this year. But it's all right now I guess. Stop with the holier than thou act. Its nauseating. And igloo won the biggest 2022 tournament of the summer. Express didn't. Please don't say wsyl was because it wasn't close. Competition was terrible. And please don't ask why igloo didn't win because you could ask same thing about express at Millon. Igloo is the best LONG ISLAND team. Express is a national team. They should beat local teams.
Take some nauzene and get over yourself
Igloo had some good wins last year but to try and say they are the best team is simply a joke. There is at least 3 teams that where better last year. Express,Dukes, Hawks. These teams were clear and above everyone else.
Most teams because of the age requirement that was changed mid year could not send a team to WSYL because they stayed loyal to the players on their team. Igloo is the only team to completely screw their players and families and send a team not their own. So lets save the chest pounding,Igloo is the only true LI team - in the world of club lacrosse it means nothing especially after you treat families that way!
Oh stop it. Express had a separate world series team. Please don't act like igloo was the only one to do it. Every organization including the mighty 91 did it last year it just worked for express better than the other teams. Let's all chill and enjoy watching the kids play. Stop the chest bumping they good teams are all fun to watch can't we agree on that.
Igloo had some good wins last year but to try and say they are the best team is simply a joke. There is at least 3 teams that where better last year. Express,Dukes, Hawks. These teams were clear and above everyone else.
Most teams because of the age requirement that was changed mid year could not send a team to WSYL because they stayed loyal to the players on their team. Igloo is the only team to completely screw their players and families and send a team not their own. So lets save the chest pounding,Igloo is the only true LI team - in the world of club lacrosse it means nothing especially after you treat families that way!
Oh stop it. Express had a separate world series team. Please don't act like igloo was the only one to do it. Every organization including the mighty 91 did it last year it just worked for express better than the other teams. Let's all chill and enjoy watching the kids play. Stop the chest bumping they good teams are all fun to watch can't we agree on that.
Completely inaccurate, both 91 and Express only played with their 2022 boys. Igloo brought boys from its 2021 team. Why make false statements?
I wish clubs would just make a u13 team for this event. My kid is a young 2022 and qualifies as a u13 and he would tryout of clubs held them. But I would never have him be an add to a 2023 team, that's awkward.
I wish clubs would just make a u13 team for this event. My kid is a young 2022 and qualifies as a u13 and he would tryout of clubs held them. But I would never have him be an add to a 2023 team, that's awkward.
Why be bothered by the label? If your kid qualifies then he would be on a u13 team because it's an age based tournament, who cares what they call it. They could call it a 2021 team, or a 2025 team but who cares!! In reality it's a u13 team.
Igloo had some good wins last year but to try and say they are the best team is simply a joke. There is at least 3 teams that where better last year. Express,Dukes, Hawks. These teams were clear and above everyone else.
Most teams because of the age requirement that was changed mid year could not send a team to WSYL because they stayed loyal to the players on their team. Igloo is the only team to completely screw their players and families and send a team not their own. So lets save the chest pounding,Igloo is the only true LI team - in the world of club lacrosse it means nothing especially after you treat families that way!
Oh stop it. Express had a separate world series team. Please don't act like igloo was the only one to do it. Every organization including the mighty 91 did it last year it just worked for express better than the other teams. Let's all chill and enjoy watching the kids play. Stop the chest bumping they good teams are all fun to watch can't we agree on that.
Completely inaccurate, both 91 and Express only played with their 2022 boys. Igloo brought boys from its 2021 team. Why make false statements?
Stop it. Did express take the entire 35 man roster or they left the bottom half of the roster home. No need to lie on here man.
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
No, Express did not take their 35 man roster nor did any other team as per WSYL Rules.
All teams must carry between 18-23 field players and a minimum of 2 goalies at all times. Both goalies do not have to physically participate in the Regional Qualifier, but both need to regularly play within your club or organization and will be held to the same roster eligibility standards as other players. Total roster size can not exceed 25 players.
So, enough already......
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
I heard it was the John Hopkin's goalie that filled in.
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
Go on YouTube and watch the game again and you tell me who is in the net, thanks
But their team is made up of players from 5 different states. Ask anyone on the team. Igloo is all Long Island. And yes congrats on winning that tournament. But a few weeks later they didn't get out of the first round of the millon national championship. All that is being said is they are not an all Long Island team. Either is 91
Igloo showed up to Millon National Championship with one goalie and when the kid suffered a horrendous injury, they added to their roster. That kid may have been from LI, but he wasn't on that Igloo team. At least it came back to bite Millon in the butt for not enforcing his roster rule that he was so adamant about.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
Go on YouTube and watch the game again and you tell me who is in the net, thanks
Don’t need to go on YouTube sport, I was there the kid that played was the younger brother of a kid on the team. Was a 2023 kid. Not. 2022 B team kid. Don’t care one way or another. Not opining on whether it violated the rules or not just pointing out that you are spewing BS.
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition! [/quote]
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
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Go on YouTube and watch the game again and you tell me who is in the net, thanks[/quote]
Don’t need to go on YouTube sport, I was there the kid that played was the younger brother of a kid on the team. Was a 2023 kid. Not. 2022 B team kid. Don’t care one way or another. Not opining on whether it violated the rules or not just pointing out that you are spewing BS. [/quote]
You’re all stunads. The 2022a team last year carried one goalie. Kid got hurt in a horrific injury during day 1 of millon. Played remaining time with a younger sibling in met. 2022B goalie was not there but parents drove him down for day 2. What is your point anyway?
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
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Go on YouTube and watch the game again and you tell me who is in the net, thanks[/quote]
Don’t need to go on YouTube sport, I was there the kid that played was the younger brother of a kid on the team. Was a 2023 kid. Not. 2022 B team kid. Don’t care one way or another. Not opining on whether it violated the rules or not just pointing out that you are spewing BS. [/quote]
You’re all stunads. The 2022a team last year carried one goalie. Kid got hurt in a horrific injury during day 1 of millon. Played remaining time with a younger sibling in met. 2022B goalie was not there but parents drove him down for day 2. What is your point anyway?[/quote]
I stand corrected. You are absolutely right, the 2023 goalie won the whole thing for IGLOO, my bad. Wonder how Mark Million's team feels losing to a 2023 goalie in the net for the ship!!! Oh well, its old news now right??
That kid they added IS from Long Island and IS on 2022 Igloo Aspen, Igloo's 2022 second team, and Mark Million did approved the addition!
Ha. That’s fake news. You made that up. My son played on igloo 2022 B and the goalie did not play in the tournament. He is now on the A team but did not attend the Million tournament. Funny, b/c you had enough info to try and sound legit, so must be an igloo parent. But blatantly lying. Ouch
Go on YouTube and watch the game again and you tell me who is in the net, thanks[/quote]
Don’t need to go on YouTube sport, I was there the kid that played was the younger brother of a kid on the team. Was a 2023 kid. Not. 2022 B team kid. Don’t care one way or another. Not opining on whether it violated the rules or not just pointing out that you are spewing BS. [/quote]
You’re all stunads. The 2022a team last year carried one goalie. Kid got hurt in a horrific injury during day 1 of millon. Played remaining time with a younger sibling in met. 2022B goalie was not there but parents drove him down for day 2. What is your point anyway?[/quote]
I stand corrected. You are absolutely right, the 2023 goalie won the whole thing for IGLOO, my bad. Wonder how Mark Million's team feels losing to a 2023 goalie in the net for the ship!!! Oh well, its old news now right??[/quote]
Move on people - stop talking about the goalies. This is getting ridiculous - these are all good kids - go complain directly to Mark Million for what happened million of years ago.... i'm sure he will listen to you.
Who's in for Blatant Spring Jam?
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
Outlaws
Top 5 in that order,
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
91
Express
Igloo
Legacy
Outlaws
Top 5 in that order,
Outlaws are a total joke.
Legacy might not even field a team this summer. That team is in major disarray.
Legacy might not even field a team this summer. That team is in major disarray.
Outlaws in the same sinking ship! Change of ownership has everyone running for the 91 and Express!
Outlaws Have no change in ownership- Loser that left to go to 91 B, should shut up
They have added a couple very good kids, I know that.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
Dukes stinks : legacy is doing fine. Will beat 91 . Express overrated
Outlaws Have no change in ownership- Loser that left to go to 91 B, should shut up
They have added a couple very good kids, I know that.
Much better over at 91 and can crush your sorry [ChillLaxin]club.
To each his own. No reason for the name calling and disparaging organizations. You put your kids in the best situation possible for them to learn and get better. What's right for one child might not be the best situation for another. To recognize that and move on is not a blemish to either the child or the organization. With that being said the way one leaves an organization and a team does say a lot about ones character.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
I will never understand the talk about Dukes or any other similar team within the context of club lacrosse, either in criticism or, even worse, the chest thumping. They are essentially an all star team culled from other good clubs - while club lacrosse is kind of the wild west, there is still a loose ideal that you select a team in the fall and then develop that team and its players by practicing and playing together over the course of that season. Those teams are what comprise 99.99% of the club circuit. To walk around and boast about how good they are in beating traditional club teams means what exactly??
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
I will never understand the talk about Dukes or any other similar team within the context of club lacrosse, either in criticism or, even worse, the chest thumping. They are essentially an all star team culled from other good clubs - while club lacrosse is kind of the wild west, there is still a loose ideal that you select a team in the fall and then develop that team and its players by practicing and playing together over the course of that season. Those teams are what comprise 99.99% of the club circuit. To walk around and boast about how good they are in beating traditional club teams means what exactly??
They also don't practice which really should even the playing field. Are you saying the LIE, Team 91 don't get the pick of great kids? And they practice year round. Dukes has a total of 8 practices all year. And many kids only make 4 or 5 of them. Like it or not, it's pretty impressive.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
I will never understand the talk about Dukes or any other similar team within the context of club lacrosse, either in criticism or, even worse, the chest thumping. They are essentially an all star team culled from other good clubs - while club lacrosse is kind of the wild west, there is still a loose ideal that you select a team in the fall and then develop that team and its players by practicing and playing together over the course of that season. Those teams are what comprise 99.99% of the club circuit. To walk around and boast about how good they are in beating traditional club teams means what exactly??
They also don't practice which really should even the playing field. Are you saying the LIE, Team 91 don't get the pick of great kids? And they practice year round. Dukes has a total of 8 practices all year. And many kids only make 4 or 5 of them. Like it or not, it's pretty impressive.
Yes, lacrosse is a team game, and they don't practice, but they are very high end players, so I still hold to my point - if you took the top players of the two teams you mention , LIE and Express, that combined team also likely would be able to play at a higher level than the individual two teams, even without much practice.
Who cares. From LI myself. My best bunch of kids against yours. Who cares what state or what other club stickers might be on their cars--their team beat yours. Now everyone can continue to go back to their lives... I get the age on age complaint, but this one, stop, you sound like a sore loser, whiner.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
Dukes stinks : legacy is doing fine. Will beat 91 . Express overrated
Agreed, Dukes is a joke. The team never plays in any real tournaments, they play in tournaments with B level teams at best so the can easily win and promote "the Program", just look at the teams they played in Florida in January a complete blowout against local mediocre teams, then they promote like they are a great program, it's embarrassing for them to do that. What A JOKE.
Who cares. From LI myself. My best bunch of kids against yours. Who cares what state or what other club stickers might be on their cars--their team beat yours. Now everyone can continue to go back to their lives... I get the age on age complaint, but this one, stop, you sound like a sore loser, whiner.
BOTC Tourette post . . .
Ummm...both express and 91 have studs from all different
States. Same as Dukes. And they practice together all year
and still can't beat Dukes. Dukes best team out there.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
Dukes stinks : legacy is doing fine. Will beat 91 . Express overrated
Agreed, Dukes is a joke. The team never plays in any real tournaments, they play in tournaments with B level teams at best so the can easily win and promote "the Program", just look at the teams they played in Florida in January a complete blowout against local mediocre teams, then they promote like they are a great program, it's embarrassing for them to do that. What A JOKE.
Naptown is a complete joke? I suppose beating LIE 12-3 this summer doesn’t count because it wasn’t in a tournament? Don’t worry. They are coming to Blatant this spring. Just hope that the MD club playoffs keep the MD kids away. Then maybe Dukes won’t run over everyone there.
Glad we left cause 91 is way better anyways. Tons more practice. Wait till Summer!
And EVERYONE is glad you left also. You were an egomaniac who thought you were a coach even though you never played the game. That's two teams now you have worn out your welcome with. Only a matter of time for a third...
Outlaws Have no change in ownership- Loser that left to go to 91 B, should shut up
They have added a couple very good kids, I know that.
You know as well as I do the Outlaws are a sub par team with some good players. Good goalie , great face-off, and a few other good pieces. Overall they are only a B team with some A players sprinkled in. The coaching is why this team will go nowhere! They gave a guy who has never played coaching/screaming from the sidelines!! And YES the team has been sold!!
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Only a troll would ask such a question. Dukes is a team made of Studs from all over. They are supposed to beat everyone. Dukes had the benefit of playing when and where they want while playing who they want on the field. They do not play year round together nor go thru the long brutal summer tournaments weekend after weekend. In one case last year they even brought kids for the last day of a 2 day tournament so they could win it. There is only a few teams that can run with them and the Express is definitely on of the them.
What team do you play for so we can all see how well you do against Dukes at Spring Thaw.
Dukes stinks : legacy is doing fine. Will beat 91 . Express overrated
Agreed, Dukes is a joke. The team never plays in any real tournaments, they play in tournaments with B level teams at best so the can easily win and promote "the Program", just look at the teams they played in Florida in January a complete blowout against local mediocre teams, then they promote like they are a great program, it's embarrassing for them to do that. What A JOKE.
Naptown is a complete joke? I suppose beating LIE 12-3 this summer doesn’t count because it wasn’t in a tournament? Don’t worry. They are coming to Blatant this spring. Just hope that the MD club playoffs keep the MD kids away. Then maybe Dukes won’t run over everyone there.
Hey Duke daddy pounding your chest- If any players from LIE, 91, Hawks , or the top players from other clubs showed up to a Dukes practice/tryout your kid would no longer have a spot on the team. Dukes have 4 kids that they pray can make every event or better yet only play in big games that they can make it to.(when they are not playing for their 2021 team) The rest is average at best players that can easily be replaced which is the system they have in place . Please don't lose a game this year because it will be awfully embarrassing - we expect Dukes to win everything
Just a glorified cookies and juice dad. All the best to his son.
Outlaws Have no change in ownership- Loser that left to go to 91 B, should shut up
They have added a couple very good kids, I know that.
Much better over at 91 and can crush your sorry [ChillLaxin]club.
We shall see. I know this coaching is everything at this age, and we all know 91coaching blows away PB and any Outlaws coaches
2023 igloo beat 2022 igloo B this weekend, I guess that answers any questions as to whether 2022 igloo b will be competive this year
2023 igloo beat 2022 igloo B this weekend, I guess that answers any questions as to whether 2022 igloo b will be competive this year
You must be a S2S 2023 parent or heard it secondhand from a S2S parent waiting to take the field after the game. Both Igloo teams and parents should have been happy with all the boys. They all played really hard after weeks of training.
It was a controlled scrimmage during practice. Nobody wins those. Both of the teams need work here and there. That is the purpose of a scrimmage to see what areas are lacking. Why not setup a scrimmage and see where your team stacks up. I’m sure that the 2022 or 2023 team would gladly play your team.
Really don’t get this site at all. A bunch of viscous parents attacking kids. Nothing productive or complimentary. This is bottom of the barrel jealousy and hatred.
Coaching is all that matters??!? 91 has good coaching? What a joke!
91B coach has no confidence in his own coaching. He doesn't know how to develop his own players so instead of coaching his own kids, he keeps stealing kids from Outlaws and Empire B team. Keeps looking for the next stud and now has a bigger roster than Chan! Joke is on him, he only took our second line and starts these kids. Proud parents think they are hot on 91 and keep talkin' trash, but they are on a bloated 91B team. Word is he adds at least 1 new kid each week. Feel bad for the kids who paid to try out and got lied to. Kids get shafted, 30 kids on a team - how much playing time they gonna get?
2023 igloo beat 2022 igloo B this weekend, I guess that answers any questions as to whether 2022 igloo b will be competive this year
Definitely not an Igloo parent making a comment like this - what hole did you crawl out of?
Coaching is all that matters??!? 91 has good coaching? What a joke!
91B coach has no confidence in his own coaching. He doesn't know how to develop his own players so instead of coaching his own kids, he keeps stealing kids from Outlaws and Empire B team. Keeps looking for the next stud and now has a bigger roster than Chan! Joke is on him, he only took our second line and starts these kids. Proud parents think they are hot on 91 and keep talkin' trash, but they are on a bloated 91B team. Word is he adds at least 1 new kid each week. Feel bad for the kids who paid to try out and got lied to. Kids get shafted, 30 kids on a team - how much playing time they gonna get?
With how these teams add and how parents play politics, why have tryouts. News flash, if your son isn't playing he is on the wrong team. Please don't say its for practice. I've seen those 30+ kids practices.
Does anyone know about the Long Island Showcase Nassau vs Suffolk Game? Is it worth doing?
Does anyone know about the Long Island Showcase Nassau vs Suffolk Game? Is it worth doing?
My son has done this the last 2 years and it will come down to who the coaches are. I have seen kids picked that got cut from every club team but plays for one of the coaches. One year they took 3 attackman from 1 school and I assure you 2 out of 3 of those kids were not one of the top 20 attackmen that were at the tryouts(in the final tryout the 2 kids didn't have 1 point) .
be careful, but do it. it is fun for the kids to play against kids they know, but when it comes down to the final cuts don't hold your breath.
They also took kids that didn't even go to the 2 tryouts and that is what is not fair. They were good players but I don't think that is how it should be.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
91 & Igloo players are playing for their HS teams
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
91 played an outdoor tournament in CT last fall and smashed some town teams, if that counts
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
How's that shoulder of yours doing . . . ??
Any Nassau/Suffolk
true(non holdbacks) 2022's get brought up to Varsity??? Lot of talent in this group
ok dad so you want us to mention your kid got the nod up to varsity because your town stinks. And there is alot of talent at every age group!
[quote=Anonymous]Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
Getting good grades, volunteer work, spending time with family, hanging with friends and playing video games.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
How's that shoulder of yours doing . . . ??
??
[quote=Anonymous]Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
Getting good grades, volunteer work, spending time with family, hanging with friends and playing video games.
All the same things every boy at this age should be doing and are doing, only BIG difference is the level of lax competition.
[quote=Anonymous]Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
Getting good grades, volunteer work, spending time with family, hanging with friends and playing video games.
All the same things every boy at this age should be doing and are doing, only BIG difference is the level of lax competition.
I owe it to all the lax competition I played - says no one ever
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
With 12 tournaments scheduled they should see every team in the country.
How did express do against Dukes? No scores posted.
How did express do against Dukes? No scores posted.
Lost
How did express do against Dukes? No scores posted.
Lost
Hawks beat them as well
Express trounced by Dukes and hawks. And here come the excuses.....
No one cares. Play real teams
Good first day of spring season competition. Like what we saw. Hide from nobody
Stop with the hide from nobody garbage. It’s asinine. Your kids team got shellacked by those teams. Here’s an idea next time—-HIDE! You are not close to those teams. Stay up north and beat the LI teams. HIDE from the real teams like hawks and dukes/koopers.
Stop with the hide from nobody garbage. It’s asinine. Your kids team got shellacked by those teams. Here’s an idea next time—-HIDE! You are not close to those teams. Stay up north and beat the LI teams. HIDE from the real teams like hawks and dukes/koopers.
you are funny and are demonstrating to be the ass. express and hawks have beaten and lost to eachother the same number of times over the last two years. today hawks won 13-11 in 20+ minute quarters. it will be a long season, so take easy
Stop with the hide from nobody garbage. It’s asinine. Your kids team got shellacked by those teams. Here’s an idea next time—-HIDE! You are not close to those teams. Stay up north and beat the LI teams. HIDE from the real teams like hawks and dukes/koopers.
The real teams what a jerk off. Your kid rides the bench or should is say should. pretty easy to see who's talking here
Stop with the hide from nobody garbage. It’s asinine. Your kids team got shellacked by those teams. Here’s an idea next time—-HIDE! You are not close to those teams. Stay up north and beat the LI teams. HIDE from the real teams like hawks and dukes/koopers.
No LI teams can hang with Dukes or Hawks-
Express came to play in early spring action. Where was everyone else from LI at-
Playing video games?
Why didn’t Hawks and Dukes play each other?
It’s funny Dukes consider themselves a team. How about we take an all star team from LI and play you and than come on here and talk trash. You are the KD of the lacrosse world
Express is an all star team. Players from 5 different states on the team. Get over yourself. It’s ok to lose. Those 2 teams are better
Stop with the hide from nobody garbage. It’s asinine. Your kids team got shellacked by those teams. Here’s an idea next time—-HIDE! You are not close to those teams. Stay up north and beat the LI teams. HIDE from the real teams like hawks and dukes/koopers.
you are funny and are demonstrating to be the ass. express and hawks have beaten and lost to eachother the same number of times over the last two years. today hawks won 13-11 in 20+ minute quarters. it will be a long season, so take easy
LOL. The score of the Hawks game was 14-8 and it was 25 minute running halves. What he heck are you talking about?
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
How's that shoulder of yours doing . . . ??
??
I figure it must be sore from all that constant patting yourself on the back . . .
I will give Express credit. They are back at it again this weekend. They have no problem seeking out the best competition. That's not debatable.
Chan only looks to play the best. That is true.
C'mon man, why lie? The score was 13-11, 20 min quarters because the Hawks only had 2 games the whole day. Hawks are a great team and well coached. Express played a better 2nd half, case closed. Great practice for all the teams that showed.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Is Express going to be more competitive against Dukes at Spring Thaw or will they get run off the field again like they did this summer on the island?
Maybe-Maybe not
They will however travel to play anyone anywhere and have been doing so for years. Winning every single game at this level is near impossible but willing to play every game is not. Express will search out the best teams for scrimmages,games and tournaments to enter. No other LI team has done that or will ever do that. This weekend is a prime example.Playing arguably the very best at this age group in the Hawks and Dukes along with a top team from Philly. What is 91,Igloo and every other team from NY,LI doing?
How's that shoulder of yours doing . . . ??
??
I figure it must be sore from all that constant patting yourself on the back . . .
classic LI daddy troll. Comments above are not from Express. From MD , so much trolling on MD forum but this forum takes the cake. Have fun playing in your town games this spring because your club lacrosse teams hate each other so much they don't even have a league for everyone to play in. You can't hide in MD. You want to be the best you have to play the best.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
And you saw all this from your little igloo on LI-
C'mon man, why lie? The score was 13-11, 20 min quarters because the Hawks only had 2 games the whole day. Hawks are a great team and well coached. Express played a better 2nd half, case closed. Great practice for all the teams that showed.
Spot on here- 2 point game - 11-5 at one point - express with a big final quarter. Good competition against these 2 teams like always. 4 20 minute quarters-
Dukes will destroy all other LI teams.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
you guys need to grow up. Who cares. 91 is much better than all of those teams
A lot of chest thumping from express for losing two out of three games this past weekend. I remember when the chest thumping was for winning from them. Now it’s for competing with the best. Lol. Times are changing with that team. Maybe it’s time to add to that 38 player roster. Don’t worry, from what I hear Chan was heavily recruiting a few new players at the tournament. Can you say 40 man roster?
Yes, can you imagine some boys actually did community service and gave of their time this weekend instead of playing a sport that no one really watches or cares about except for the loser dads? Get a life lax dads!! Your sons will thank you for it.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Dukes was missing almost half their team that Sunday for the Hawks game because a lot of the boys had a one day tournament in Philly with their local clubs. They had no FOGO.
Express was never in the Dukes game this weekend. It was 6-1 at half. And when they played in August Express asked to cut the second half time in half as it was totally out of hand.
With a full team no one comes close to Dukes. That just doesn't happen often.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
<eye roll>
Any thought on this showcase, is it just a money grab?
Boys Premier Showcase, 2022 run by FFFFLLLGEEE
You're all awful. You know your kids read this? Embarrassing and pathetic.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Dukes was missing almost half their team that Sunday for the Hawks game because a lot of the boys had a one day tournament in Philly with their local clubs. They had no FOGO.
Express was never in the Dukes game this weekend. It was 6-1 at half. And when they played in August Express asked to cut the second half time in half as it was totally out of hand.
With a full team no one comes close to Dukes. That just doesn't happen often.
Not much of a team when the roster is a la carte and the performance at any given tournament depends on whether or not the player's primary clubs are playing that day or not.
You're all awful. You know your kids read this? Embarrassing and pathetic.
Another BOTC Tourette post . . .
You're all awful. You know your kids read this? Embarrassing and pathetic.
Another BOTC Tourette post . . .
My kid writes half this stuff! HAHAHA
Yes, can you imagine some boys actually did community service and gave of their time this weekend instead of playing a sport that no one really watches or cares about except for the loser dads? Get a life lax dads!! Your sons will thank you for it.
Now you say you really don't care about this sport and no one watches or cares about? Really? My family does more community service during the year than most do in a lifetime. Save the my kid is a Saint bs for another forum.
A lot of chest thumping from express for losing two out of three games this past weekend. I remember when the chest thumping was for winning from them. Now it’s for competing with the best. Lol. Times are changing with that team. Maybe it’s time to add to that 38 player roster. Don’t worry, from what I hear Chan was heavily recruiting a few new players at the tournament. Can you say 40 man roster?
This [ChillLaxin] just keeps getting better. Who is chest thumping? Simply stating facts that everyone except other clubs on LI seem to accept. And its clear why from all these lame ass comments about how bad Express is.
From what you hear? Did you have a scout in DE this weekend ? Maybe you can let everyone in on what club you belong to.
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Dukes was missing almost half their team that Sunday for the Hawks game because a lot of the boys had a one day tournament in Philly with their local clubs. They had no FOGO.
Express was never in the Dukes game this weekend. It was 6-1 at half. And when they played in August Express asked to cut the second half time in half as it was totally out of hand.
With a full team no one comes close to Dukes. That just doesn't happen often.
I bet you get so angry reading this stuff and just can't wait for a reply. Congratulations - Dukes are on top of the world and are unbeatable. SMH- I love feeding into it
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Dukes was missing almost half their team that Sunday for the Hawks game because a lot of the boys had a one day tournament in Philly with their local clubs. They had no FOGO.
Express was never in the Dukes game this weekend. It was 6-1 at half. And when they played in August Express asked to cut the second half time in half as it was totally out of hand.
With a full team no one comes close to Dukes. That just doesn't happen often.
I bet you get so angry reading this stuff and just can't wait for a reply. Congratulations - Dukes are on top of the world and are unbeatable. SMH- I love feeding into it
The whole Dukes versus anyone else discussion is just dumb - it's an apples to bananas comparison. Let the Dukes enjoy their faux 'dominance' over mostly other traditional club teams
Knew it wouldn’t take long...60 minute halves, 1 goal game, blah blah blah. Express got manhandled twice. Hawks could have won by 10 if they didn’t take their foot off the gas. And the Dukes game was never a game. Dominated.
Ease-up, remember Dukes “dominated” Hawks last time. How did that feel to be “manhandled”?
Hawks beat Dukes in a slugfest last time out! Championship game this past fall. Express held their own this weekend and played the best 2 teams in the country. No other LI team can beat Hawks or Dukes. Express got better this weekend while the rest where playing video games or community service or trolling this site or tourney machine for score updates. Express in 1 weekend played more real lacrosse than the rest of the island will all spring.
Dukes was missing almost half their team that Sunday for the Hawks game because a lot of the boys had a one day tournament in Philly with their local clubs. They had no FOGO.
Express was never in the Dukes game this weekend. It was 6-1 at half. And when they played in August Express asked to cut the second half time in half as it was totally out of hand.
With a full team no one comes close to Dukes. That just doesn't happen often.
I bet you get so angry reading this stuff and just can't wait for a reply. Congratulations - Dukes are on top of the world and are unbeatable. SMH- I love feeding into it
The whole Dukes versus anyone else discussion is just dumb - it's an apples to bananas comparison. Let the Dukes enjoy their faux 'dominance' over mostly other traditional club teams
Let any of the top 5 teams pick 3 choice players from another top 10 2022 team to add to their roster for a game against the Dukes. See what happens. Then ask the Dukes to show up at a popular Tournament where most of the top 10 2022 teams are participating and see what happens. There is a difference between owning and leasing a car.
Easy way to handle the Dukes is very simple. If the club reams all stand together banning players from joining other teams during the season. It's not really a conversation but if you take all the players and play other teams the deck is not evenly stacked is it? If Express, 91 and whatever other teams forbid players to go to the Dukes they would cease to exist!!
Easy way to handle the Dukes is very simple. If the club reams all stand together banning players from joining other teams during the season. It's not really a conversation but if you take all the players and play other teams the deck is not evenly stacked is it? If Express, 91 and whatever other teams forbid players to go to the Dukes they would cease to exist!!
I don't think it's worth all the protesting/activism - just let them bask in their faux superiority. Everyone knows the real deal. It's the same thing as when an AA or A team goes into B tourney and wins.
Easy way to handle the Dukes is very simple. If the club reams all stand together banning players from joining other teams during the season. It's not really a conversation but if you take all the players and play other teams the deck is not evenly stacked is it? If Express, 91 and whatever other teams forbid players to go to the Dukes they would cease to exist!!
What is this??? A strategy for dungeons and dragons? You have nothing else to do but worry about another team?? LAME
How was the express parents and their red cups doing? The 23 parents were not happy with their kids playing time and losing to hawks
How was the express parents and their red cups doing? The 23 parents were not happy with their kids playing time and losing to hawks
They all know the deal going in. But with 12 tournaments on their schedule, the playing time will more than most teams.
How was the express parents and their red cups doing? The 23 parents were not happy with their kids playing time and losing to hawks
I thought this was a 2022 forum. Who cares about the 2023 Express team.
Easy way to handle the Dukes is very simple. If the club reams all stand together banning players from joining other teams during the season. It's not really a conversation but if you take all the players and play other teams the deck is not evenly stacked is it? If Express, 91 and whatever other teams forbid players to go to the Dukes they would cease to exist!!
What is this??? A strategy for dungeons and dragons? You have nothing else to do but worry about another team?? LAME
Your obviously one of the stunad parents on the Dukes. It's so much fun beating the crap out of a team for the win. Your the reason the sport has a reputation for having psycho parents!!! LAME
How did the 2022 long Island North and South Warrior Tryouts go yesterday? How many kids showed up for each?
My son took a pass. Didn’t feel like making a donation when you know the teams are already picked.
Agree sent my son last year and it was just an expensive clinic. The equipment he received was nice but he only kept the bag and gave the rest to friends. If you have the money it is a good clinic nothing more or less.
My son took a pass. Didn’t feel like making a donation when you know the teams are already picked.
The issue is that your son can have a great tryout, but plays above and a better player doesn't play as well and it seems teams are formed more from rep.
Looking for some advice on the UA 21/22 tryouts that is coming up. Is it a waste of time to try out even though most 22s won’t make it? Does it hurt your chances to make next years team if you don’t have a good tryout? My son is a 22 and wants to tryout and I told you most likely won’t make the team. He knows that but want to make it does hurt him if he try’s out next year.
How was the express parents and their red cups doing? The 23 parents were not happy with their kids playing time and losing to hawks
You cant make everyone happy and to each his own. But for me, let them have fun and go to a team where your son will play every game, you will regret it if you dont. Ask your kid what he likes more lax practice and not playing every game or fortnight?
Well to be honest if your son has not hit puberty I would not recommend it.
I know a lot of 22's playing JV and have only heard of 2 kids from Igloo and JR playing Varsity - any other's playing Varsity?
I know a lot of 22's playing JV and have only heard of 2 kids from Igloo and JR playing Varsity - any other's playing Varsity?
Herricks has an 8th grader on Varsity
Looking for some advice on the UA 21/22 tryouts that is coming up. Is it a waste of time to try out even though most 22s won’t make it? Does it hurt your chances to make next years team if you don’t have a good tryout? My son is a 22 and wants to tryout and I told you most likely won’t make the team. He knows that but want to make it does hurt him if he try’s out next year.
Not sure why trying out and not making it as an 8th grader would keep you from making it as a freshman?
Herricks guys come on! They probably have terrible numbers on top of not being a good program. So if your a decent 8th grader with a good Lax iq I could see that.
I know a lot of 22's playing JV and have only heard of 2 kids from Igloo and JR playing Varsity - any other's playing Varsity?
Herricks has an 8th grader on Varsity
My 2024 son cold play varsity for Herricks!
I know a lot of 22's playing JV and have only heard of 2 kids from Igloo and JR playing Varsity - any other's playing Varsity?
Herricks has an 8th grader on Varsity
My 2024 son cold play varsity for Herricks!
LMAO
Some 22's playing varsity are early- mid 2003 birth dates. It gives an edge if you have talent.
It would not and a good point , only negative is could rock players confidence .
Some 22's playing varsity are early- mid 2003 birth dates. It gives an edge if you have talent.
Good point then they would not be true 8th graders
so my son birth date is 12/30/03 and will graduate 2022..does that not make my son a true 8th grader?
[quote=Anonymous]so my son birth date is 12/30/03 and will graduate 2022..does that not make my son a true 8th grader? [/qu
Well, yes he is a true 8th grader but say June 03 probable makes you 9th grader is the point I think he was making. You clearly have a chip!
"Some 22's playing varsity are early- mid 2003 birth dates. It gives an edge if you have talent."
AHH.. see here is the truth...It gives an edge if you have talent. Well that my friends is the truth- TALENT will rise to the top. plenty of holdbacks with much less talent. Size is not the issue, heart and ability.
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
LOL, seriously quiet in here, that's actually a shame! What tournament is this weekend and how is playing?
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
C'mon - don't you know you're either AA or your nothin'?!
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
There is a 2022 Play date tomorrow. Sometimes they can be better because the competition is set beforehand and you get multiple competitive games. This group needs it because there is such a gap from the top 3 on LI to all the rest. Forget AA, A and B nonsense. There is about 6 teams that make up the rest. I would say Outlaws and Legacy make up the best of the rest.
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
There is a 2022 Play date tomorrow. Sometimes they can be better because the competition is set beforehand and you get multiple competitive games. This group needs it because there is such a gap from the top 3 on LI to all the rest. Forget AA, A and B nonsense. There is about 6 teams that make up the rest. I would say Outlaws and Legacy make up the best of the rest.
The top 3 i assume are 91, Express & __? And then i think Legacy is up there folowed by Igloo and then the Outlaws & fl$ but fl$ seems to not be getting better at all age groups due to neptism from what i hear.
Seriously all? Just because you have to register, you won't talk lacrosse? You can register and still give your opinion about holdbacks, club fees, AA vs A vs B, how Dukes is an All Star team and shouldn't be in anybody's 2022 team ranking (lol, love that one), how the WSYL is age based and how can 2023 teams legally invite 2022 kids and somehow that's wrong to play based on the rules (never understood that argument), how public school lax is now better than Catholic school lax, how LI is more talented than Maryland, how town ia more important than club, etc, etc, etc.
Seriously all? Just because you have to register, you won't talk lacrosse? You can register and still give your opinion about holdbacks, club fees, AA vs A vs B, how Dukes is an All Star team and shouldn't be in anybody's 2022 team ranking (lol, love that one), how the WSYL is age based and how can 2023 teams legally invite 2022 kids and somehow that's wrong to play based on the rules (never understood that argument), how public school lax is now better than Catholic school lax, how LI is more talented than Maryland, how town ia more important than club, etc, etc, etc.
Much easier in the dark! LOL
C'mon... I know all those who checked tourney machine today is getting the blog shakes over the suprising results today.
Saw express got beat up at blatant. Igloo played like we thought they would. Outlaws looked very good. Went undefeated then lost by 1 in championship. This after beating legacy easily 2 weeks ago. After this weekend igloo looks like team to beat. We 'll give express a pass, but the gap is closing rapidly. Then the outlaws have clearly separated themselves from legacy and igloo B. Only question is where is 91?
C'mon... I know all those who checked tourney machine today is getting the blog shakes over the suprising results today.
Was the Express Chan team the normal team? Where they missing players? They did not look as good as the last time I saw them.
Same with Dukes
C'mon... I know all those who checked tourney machine today is getting the blog shakes over the suprising results today.
Was the Express Chan team the normal team? Where they missing players? They did not look as good as the last time I saw them.
Same with Dukes
The Dukes you never really know what you are getting. They have a “pool” of players and draw from that pool. Depending on who goes to a tourney you get a different team.
Saw express got beat up at blatant. Igloo played like we thought they would. Outlaws looked very good. Went undefeated then lost by 1 in championship. This after beating legacy easily 2 weeks ago. After this weekend igloo looks like team to beat. We 'll give express a pass, but the gap is closing rapidly. Then the outlaws have clearly separated themselves from legacy and igloo B. Only question is where is 91?
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
There is a 2022 Play date tomorrow. Sometimes they can be better because the competition is set beforehand and you get multiple competitive games. This group needs it because there is such a gap from the top 3 on LI to all the rest. Forget AA, A and B nonsense. There is about 6 teams that make up the rest. I would say Outlaws and Legacy make up the best of the rest.
The top 3 i assume are 91, Express & __? And then i think Legacy is up there folowed by Igloo and then the Outlaws & fl$ but fl$ seems to not be getting better at all age groups due to neptism from what i hear.
Is it really like that at F$G?
C'mon... I know all those who checked tourney machine today is getting the blog shakes over the suprising results today.
Was the Express Chan team the normal team? Where they missing players? They did not look as good as the last time I saw them.
Same with Dukes
The Dukes you never really know what you are getting. They have a “pool” of players and draw from that pool. Depending on who goes to a tourney you get a different team.
The Dukes 2022 team is done for the most part. Infighting in the club drove most of the best players away. Peaked last summer.
Saw express got beat up at blatant. Igloo played like we thought they would. Outlaws looked very good. Went undefeated then lost by 1 in championship. This after beating legacy easily 2 weeks ago. After this weekend igloo looks like team to beat. We 'll give express a pass, but the gap is closing rapidly. Then the outlaws have clearly separated themselves from legacy and igloo B. Only question is where is 91?
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
There is a 2022 Play date tomorrow. Sometimes they can be better because the competition is set beforehand and you get multiple competitive games. This group needs it because there is such a gap from the top 3 on LI to all the rest. Forget AA, A and B nonsense. There is about 6 teams that make up the rest. I would say Outlaws and Legacy make up the best of the rest.
The top 3 i assume are 91, Express & __? And then i think Legacy is up there folowed by Igloo and then the Outlaws & fl$ but fl$ seems to not be getting better at all age groups due to neptism from what i hear.
Is it really like that at F$G?
I never heard that about F$G, their 2022 is top 5.
C'mon... I know all those who checked tourney machine today is getting the blog shakes over the suprising results today.
Was the Express Chan team the normal team? Where they missing players? They did not look as good as the last time I saw them.
Same with Dukes
The Dukes you never really know what you are getting. They have a “pool” of players and draw from that pool. Depending on who goes to a tourney you get a different team.
Different results this past weekend. To your point. Still don't understand the point of these national/regional teams.
Saw express got beat up at blatant. Igloo played like we thought they would. Outlaws looked very good. Went undefeated then lost by 1 in championship. This after beating legacy easily 2 weeks ago. After this weekend igloo looks like team to beat. We 'll give express a pass, but the gap is closing rapidly. Then the outlaws have clearly separated themselves from legacy and igloo B. Only question is where is 91?
C'mon all register. All decent lax dialogue will grow for sure. We are heading into the season. Decent tourney this weekend at this age group. Not the heavy weights, but solid next level.
Its my opinion that those that feel that way won't register on here and we don't have to read that. Lol...
It seems that more and more people are registering each day if you look at the stats on the bottom of the site when you click on Forums so I think it will be a matter of time before they all start registering except for those who came on here just to bash kids and troll - no need to have that and just have good dialogue with debates of course.
Which tourney is taking place this weekend? I know the Christian Koehler is coming up but not aware of any tournaments this weekend..
There is a 2022 Play date tomorrow. Sometimes they can be better because the competition is set beforehand and you get multiple competitive games. This group needs it because there is such a gap from the top 3 on LI to all the rest. Forget AA, A and B nonsense. There is about 6 teams that make up the rest. I would say Outlaws and Legacy make up the best of the rest.
The top 3 i assume are 91, Express & __? And then i think Legacy is up there folowed by Igloo and then the Outlaws & fl$ but fl$ seems to not be getting better at all age groups due to neptism from what i hear.
Is it really like that at F$G?
I never heard that about F$G, their 2022 is top 5.
F$G couldn't beat Igloo Aspen Extreme, not a top 5, not even close
So mid atlantic lacrosse dad here - is the LI Laxfest any good?
My kid has two tournaments and trying to decide which one would be more fun - his definition is better competition.
So any good teams go - I know it is local for many of your great teams but they could also be at other tournaments.
So mid atlantic lacrosse dad here - is the LI Laxfest any good?
My kid has two tournaments and trying to decide which one would be more fun - his definition is better competition.
So any good teams go - I know it is local for many of your great teams but they could also be at other tournaments.
Not really. All the good teams now go to NLF and other arranged events. Used to be the best one.
So mid atlantic lacrosse dad here - is the LI Laxfest any good?
My kid has two tournaments and trying to decide which one would be more fun - his definition is better competition.
So any good teams go - I know it is local for many of your great teams but they could also be at other tournaments.
Not what it once was in my opinion. Biggest reason is that NLF and other invitational type events are drawing the top tier teams.
Laxfest jumped the shark. their greed and lack of personal touch cost them the Rainout, a few years back,was the beginning of the end
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
The O'Reilly team is having the most success.
[quote=Anonymous]Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
The O'Reilly team is having the most success.[/
True but they haven’t played any good teams. O’rielly Is a good coach. So I’m not surprised that they are doing well against the teams they are playing.
[quote=Anonymous]Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
The O'Reilly team is having the most success.[/
True but they haven’t played any good teams. O’rielly Is a good coach. So I’m not surprised that they are doing well against the teams they are playing.
They have played most of the same teams as the other two.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
Laxfest jumped the shark. their greed and lack of personal touch cost them the Rainout, a few years back,was the beginning of the end
But they will still have 300 teams there in two weeks. It is still the biggest event and attracts teams from all over the country. NLF is intentionally smaller if you believe the hype. But ultimately it is all MLT.com and their boys filling up on your cash. The left pocket fills the right.
Plat Cup-
Madlax-Capital | DC
Denver Elite | CO
BBL Elite | NJ
Legacy Madness 2022 | NY
Igloo Arctic Blast | NY
Igloo Aspen Extreme | NY
West Coast Starz | Western U.S
Predators | NY
Resolute I OH
NXT 2022 | PA
LI Outlaws | NY
Next Level | MD
API Diamondback |
Team 91 MD 2022 | MD
PA Roughriders | PA
Tri-State Lacrosse I NJ
Bucktown I NC
Team 91 Carolina Cannons I NC
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Not a 91 parent, but I think they are the team to beat with the additions. Leading Edge is very good and Laxchusettes is always big in physical as they get up into the HS years. And Prime Time is an elite team at grade based. Chan still has their starting 10 and will be fine, just lack a little depth. No Hawks, who is the best grade based team at this year. Should be good. Surprised there is no single A bracket like at Lehigh in the summer. Could have brought in 91s and Express's 2nd teams and had a legit A and AA tourney. Because Laxachusettes Yellow amd few othet might have a long weekend.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
I don't think there is any easy draws in the tournament. Surprised 91 MD is not in it. Saw JR play in the Suffolk Championship. Had a very good game against Seniors. Should dominate at this age if he plays. Predication; if JR Plays 91 Wins, if not it is a Pickem.
91 Maryland is at Adrenaline Platinum Cup in Dover, De
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
I don't think there is any easy draws in the tournament. Surprised 91 MD is not in it. Predication; if 91's best player plays, 91 Wins, if not it is a Pickem.
What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
Bad guess. Most (if not all) of Mustangs are 14, and the 7th grader is 13. But they are big, would do much better in a football tournament. No team tryouts, no practices, just a bunch of kids from Dallas and Austin who a dad got together through word of mouth. Only playing in 2 tournaments this summer.
What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
Bad guess. Most (if not all) of Mustangs are 14, and the 7th grader is 13. But they are big, would do much better in a football tournament. No team tryouts, no practices, just a bunch of kids from Dallas and Austin who a dad got together through word of mouth. Only playing in 2 tournaments this summer.
Not sure how this guy knows so much about the TX 2022 teams, but this is not the whole/real story and doesn't even make sense that a TX team would not practice, not take lax serious, but would all buy tickets and spend thousands of dollars to attend a tournament in NY. Here is the real story. For 2022, the majority of kids from TX are 15 by now. How do I know? I lived in TX and had my first child (daughter) in TX where she started KG and was one of the youngest in her TX class. Now that we have moved to NY, she is one of the oldest in her class. TX law states kids MUST be at least 5 yrs old by 9/1 to start KG (no exception). TX law requires kids who are 6yrs old by 9/1 must start KG, therefore most public schools STRONGLY SUGGEST parents wait until their kid turns 6 years old before starting KG. It was so bad, they didn't give me any attention when I tried to enroll my 5 yr old in KG. As a parent in TX, they even convinced me to do this! I didn't mind because the schools STRONGLY suggested waiting and didn't seem interested in me enrolling my daughter, TX preschools were typically quite beautiful and so inexpensive (land and labor are much cheaper) and TX public schools are for the most part (there are exceptions) not that great so most parents who can afford it go to private school.
Do the math, if most of these TX boys start KG at 6 yrs old, they enter 8th grade at 14 years old and typically turn 15 as the year progresses. Since 8th grade is mostly over, these TX 2022s are mostly 15. They are not holdbacks, they don't have crazy parents who have their kids repeat a grade to dominate sports (like JR), they are simply parents who are trying to follow the recommendations of TX school system counselors.
What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
Bad guess. Most (if not all) of Mustangs are 14, and the 7th grader is 13. But they are big, would do much better in a football tournament. No team tryouts, no practices, just a bunch of kids from Dallas and Austin who a dad got together through word of mouth. Only playing in 2 tournaments this summer.
Not sure how this guy knows so much about the TX 2022 teams, but this is not the whole/real story and doesn't even make sense that a TX team would not practice, not take lax serious, but would all buy tickets and spend thousands of dollars to attend a tournament in NY. Here is the real story. For 2022, the majority of kids from TX are 15 by now. How do I know? I lived in TX and had my first child (daughter) in TX where she started KG and was one of the youngest in her TX class. Now that we have moved to NY, she is one of the oldest in her class. TX law states kids MUST be at least 5 yrs old by 9/1 to start KG (no exception). TX law requires kids who are 6yrs old by 9/1 must start KG, therefore most public schools STRONGLY SUGGEST parents wait until their kid turns 6 years old before starting KG. It was so bad, they didn't give me any attention when I tried to enroll my 5 yr old in KG. As a parent in TX, they even convinced me to do this! I didn't mind because the schools STRONGLY suggested waiting and didn't seem interested in me enrolling my daughter, TX preschools were typically quite beautiful and so inexpensive (land and labor are much cheaper) and TX public schools are for the most part (there are exceptions) not that great so most parents who can afford it go to private school.
Do the math, if most of these TX boys start KG at 6 yrs old, they enter 8th grade at 14 years old and typically turn 15 as the year progresses. Since 8th grade is mostly over, these TX 2022s are mostly 15. They are not holdbacks, they don't have crazy parents who have their kids repeat a grade to dominate sports (like JR), they are simply parents who are trying to follow the recommendations of TX school system counselors.
Happy to answer your questions:
* Why do I know so much about TX 2022 Teams? Obviously, my son is on TX Mustangs. I grew up and lived most of my life in Westchester, we moved down here a few years ago from New York, I'm on this forum to follow my HS alma mater's lacrosse team as they play in the state tourney, and a friend told me about the comment in this thread, because he has a 2022.
* I don't doubt your child's experience with TX schools, but your math is a little off. If a child must be 5 years old to start KG, that means they must be 6 in 1st grade, 7/2nd grade, 8/3rd, 9/4th, 10/5th, 11/6th, 12/7th, and 13 at the start of 8th grade. My son is probably the oldest on this team, and he turns 15 at the end of August. Do holdbacks happen in Texas? Heck yeah, especially given how big football and sports are. But I can't think of a holdback on this team.We'll bring our birth certificates to the game, you bring yours too, OK? I'm kidding, of course. Kind of...
* As to what makes sense, who said we don't take lax seriously? This team is only together for two tournaments (one last week just to play together), most boys play on other club teams, and Austin, Dallas and Houston are very far apart. They are all good lacrosse players, just don't have a chance to practice together, so they are definitely not as smooth as teams that play together year round, they don't have plays, clears, etc. We are a non profit team, that only pays actual expenses for tournaments and coaches. The other club teams they play on are businesses in it for the money, just like back east. We just like being together, and going to this event because of the great competition, and having the boys meet other kids, and see the level of lacrosse skill and IQ that we just don't see in Texas. And at the tourney we played in Dallas last weekend, it was 105 degrees, that's good enough reason to head east!
* There was an older Mustang team (2018) that had the same model, and played in LI Laxfest back in the day and did very well, and they asked the dad who runs it if he had a 2022 team a few years back. That's how we got involved in this tournament.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Why are the Hawks not in it this year?
DC Express is a beast (at least they were this spring). Should be a good tournament with good matchups.
DC Express has a really good squad. Saw them this spring and they toyed with a few reputable teams.
Well they start against Prime Time so they will get tested off the bat.
DC Express has a really good squad. Saw them this spring and they toyed with a few reputable teams.
They are a big team. Finish 5th in the hoco elite league in which they played in.
Good answer. What you say makes sense. Good luck at Laxfest.
Laxfest schedule out. It's 2 divisions of B and B+ and Smash. That's a waste of time on father's day.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Why are the Hawks not in it this year?
Thunder, Lax Yellow, Sweetlax, Mustangs and some LI clubs should have had single A division. Wasn't that the goal of the NLF to match up the teams? I think so,could be wrong.
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Why are the Hawks not in it this year?
Thunder, Lax Yellow, Sweetlax, Mustangs and some LI clubs should have had single A division. Wasn't that the goal of the NLF to match up the teams? I think so,could be wrong.
I agree but like everything involved with youth LAX, it becomes all about the $$$$$$. Everyone wants to be an AA team and play AA brackets. if they turn teams away they go to another tournament to a so called AA Bracket.
Lost in semi. Didn’t win one faceoff. Caught a bad call and were man Down entire game
Sounds like excuses to me. Bad call and man down the whole game....... Cmon. They only scored 3 goals in the quarterfinals against Cinci. Maybe they just aren’t that great after all.
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
I think at the AA level you need develop players as part of a team. Meaning take the 22 kids that made the roster and coach them all up. You need offensive and defensive schemes at this level that you can adjust to when plan A doesn't work.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Team 91 beat Crabs in finals today.
Team 91, Crabs, and Primetime all looked good.
NLF Tournament this weekend. 2022 bracket is set. Any predictions?
Crabs
DC Express
Express North Bell
HHH
Laxachusetts Black
Thunder LB3
Leading Edge
LI Express Chan
Primetime
Sweetlax FLA
Team 91 AA
TX Mustangs
Laxachusetts Yellow
How are the Crabs, DC Express this year? What will be the average age for the TX Mustangs and Laxach, i'm guessing 16.
From LI, I think Express took a step back and 91 got better. Competitive field and I have no idea who will win this?
9d1 has easy draw compared to others, also no Igloo or BBL . So yes competitive tourney . Winner ? well If JR is controlled Chan or Primetime will prevail
Team 91 beat Crabs in finals today.
Team 91, Crabs, and Primetime all looked good.
Got to give Spallina his props. He not only caught up, but surpassed these teams. These kids all can play on these teams and you have to be able to coach
Laxfest schedule out. It's 2 divisions of B and B+ and Smash. That's a waste of time on father's day.
Please Smash, Uncle.... 2021 bracket looks good.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
O'Rielly builds teams. Good solid coach who does not give up on this players. Good for him since he kinda got the shaft from Express.
Chucks are coached by whatever 19 YO lax player walks by Chan a few days before the tourney. Zero coaching during tourneys......
Where in the wide world is Chan Jr and Lynott Jr.?
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
API finished dead last in Maryland spring club league and got blown out most games. No way they are a top 10 team.
There are 4 teams. Chan, Chuck's, Schwaije and O'Reilly
Yup
AA - Chan
A - Schwalji
B+ - Chuck
B - Orielly
All good teams
You think Chan is putting his name on a B+Team, even Lynott??These guys produce D1 All Americans, so just stop! Not to mention 3 teams, NOT 4! Sorry you didn't get the email! Either way? Over 100 QUALITY kids at the tryout, easy to fill an AA(that's not changing) and add 2 "A's"! The summer will tell what they created!
Hmmmm
No Hawks in the top 10? Your crazy easily top 3 - and I hate them but being honest.
Did anyone go to the Suffolk County tryouts yesterday? if so, how was it?
Did anyone go to the Suffolk County tryouts yesterday? if so, how was it?
They separated the boys into 4 big teams and scrimmaged for the entire try-out. Less than 100 kids, but there was a lot of talent and the Suffolk Boys all looked good. There was some confusion about what time to start - 3:30pm or 4pm so many kids were showing up late. The next round of cuts will select 40 kids.
Did anyone go to the Suffolk County tryouts yesterday? if so, how was it?
They separated the boys into 4 big teams and scrimmaged for the entire try-out. Less than 100 kids, but there was a lot of talent and the Suffolk Boys all looked good. There was some confusion about what time to start - 3:30pm or 4pm so many kids were showing up late. The next round of cuts will select 40 kids.
Not well organized. Crony ball. Politics. Probably made the team if your coach went to chirp in the evaluators ears or add notes to the charts. Been hearing it's the same with other age groups and run by an outside organization and not truly by the suffolk coaches.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
API finished dead last in Maryland spring club league and got blown out most games. No way they are a top 10 team.
APi made championship game this weekend in a very good tournament -
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Fake news!
Wha, wah express. Well, based on week 1 your TEAM was not a top 10 team...
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
What position did you play?
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
MD Teams this spring? Were you in HOCO? MD teams didn't play other than that.
LI Lax Fest this weekend. Any predictions on who will win AA? 9D1 has 4 teams. 9D1 Smash will probably win it and are heads and tails above all others.
9D1 Carolina goalie also plays goalie for Smash, wonder who he will play with? 9D1 United is big and slow with no speed. 9D1 NJ - who knows? With Express North Parisi, Duke's Young Guns, Ducks, Millon Force and Empire Green, these are mostly B teams.
LI Lax Fest this weekend. Any predictions on who will win AA? 9D1 has 4 teams. 9D1 Smash will probably win it and are heads and tails above all others.
9D1 Carolina goalie also plays goalie for Smash, wonder who he will play with? 9D1 United is big and slow with no speed. 9D1 NJ - who knows? With Express North Parisi, Duke's Young Guns, Ducks, Millon Force and Empire Green, these are mostly B teams.
Waste of time for Smash and every team vs them. They should score about 115 goals and give up like 15 in the six games. Good luck playing of Fathers day as the sun is going playing one of the other 91 teams. Mayne they call it co champs. Tourney is too big and too chaotic in my opinion.
The real 2022 question is who is going to win at NALF this weekend in Delaware. That field is as good as the NLF last week.
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
comment makes no sense- no one in high school in MD play down in the summer- that is just a ridiculous statement- clubs don't allow it nor schools. Md you also must be in high school too play for your high school. You can't be a 16 yr old 8th grader playing in high school team.
What teams did you beat this spring?
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
comment makes no sense- no one in high school in MD play down in the summer- that is just a ridiculous statement- clubs don't allow it nor schools. Md you also must be in high school too play for your high school. You can't be a 16 yr old 8th grader playing in high school team.
What teams did you beat this spring?
BS. 2022 Crabs have high school players from other states.
The real 2022 question is who is going to win at NALF this weekend in Delaware. That field is as good as the NLF last week.
Great tournament this weekend. Interested to see how the West Coast Stars do against some of the big boys. How will Express Chan do? Are the Hawks still the #1 Team?
What a joke that Smash is not in this tournament. LaxFest has turned into a B/Town Tournament. Good Luck to all the teams this weekend.
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
comment makes no sense- no one in high school in MD play down in the summer- that is just a ridiculous statement- clubs don't allow it nor schools. Md you also must be in high school too play for your high school. You can't be a 16 yr old 8th grader playing in high school team.
What teams did you beat this spring?
BS. 2022 Crabs have high school players from other states.
That's a lie. No HS players on Crabs whether their from MD or any other state.
We beat the brakes off the MD teams this spring. I guess the high school kids have returned to play for summer teams.
comment makes no sense- no one in high school in MD play down in the summer- that is just a ridiculous statement- clubs don't allow it nor schools. Md you also must be in high school too play for your high school. You can't be a 16 yr old 8th grader playing in high school team.
What teams did you beat this spring?
Not true. Plenty of 9th graders (which is HS) now playing summer lacrosse for 2022
The real 2022 question is who is going to win at NALF this weekend in Delaware. That field is as good as the NLF last week.
Great tournament this weekend. Interested to see how the West Coast Stars do against some of the big boys. How will Express Chan do? Are the Hawks still the #1 Team?
What a joke that Smash is not in this tournament. LaxFest has turned into a B/Town Tournament. Good Luck to all the teams this weekend.
wonder if West Coast Stars are bringing the 2020 kid to this tourney too - and their own ref
Outlaws started throwing punches once the MD Roughriders got up by 4 goals in IMLCA tourney. Game called. Real classless display by Outlaws. No sportsmanship.
Outlaws started throwing punches once the MD Roughriders got up by 4 goals in IMLCA tourney. Game called. Real classless display by Outlaws. No sportsmanship.
Was at game, Maryland player hit an outlaw behind the playing between the legs. Game was getting way out of hand with multiple bad flags on outlaws in second half. Before fight was one very very good game with two talented teams. Maryland parents are crazy too! Might beat us Long Island parents.
That’s awful. Way to represent LI, Outlaws. True to your name at least.
The real 2022 question is who is going to win at NALF this weekend in Delaware. That field is as good as the NLF last week.
Great tournament this weekend. Interested to see how the West Coast Stars do against some of the big boys. How will Express Chan do? Are the Hawks still the #1 Team?
What a joke that Smash is not in this tournament. LaxFest has turned into a B/Town Tournament. Good Luck to all the teams this weekend.
wonder if West Coast Stars are bringing the 2020 kid to this tourney too - and their own ref
Express won easy. Had to be the coaching...
Classless MD Roughriders coach cursing at the Putlaws players. Yelling [ChillLaxin] to their face.
Very competitive tourney in Delaware- No real dominant team but LI Express came out on top in the heat today.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
API finished dead last in Maryland spring club league and got blown out most games. No way they are a top 10 team.
APi made championship game this weekend in a very good tournament -
The MD team rankings are fairly well established. The teams played each other in a real league with real refs all spring. (No geriatric refs on sloping, un-mowed, small fields with running clocks, guest players, and other summer BS)
Hawks 6-1 (Tourney Champs)
Madlax 6-1
Koopers/Dukes/Slante team 5-2 (1 forfeit)
Crabs 5-2
FCA 3-4 (1 win by forfeit - Tourney Runner Up)
DC Express 3-4
Roughriders MD 2-5
Team 91MD 1-6
API Diamonbacks 1-7
All these teams are very good, any one of the top 6 could win on any given day.
That being said, the Hawks went 3-2-1 this weekend with losses to DC Express, LI Express, and Tied BBL.
Can anybody tell me about fl$, don't know much about this club?
Fake news. Outlaw player threw first punch. MD player took him to ground and pinned him down defensively without escalation. Refs with no control so benches cleared to defend teammate from another outlaw going after the MD kid. Then Outlaw parents on the field. Minute or less time left in game so Outlaw player ejected and game called. Unbelievable lack of sportsmanship.
Can anybody tell me about fl$, don't know much about this club?
I have never had a son play for them, but my older boy played their 3D events, which are well run events, probably the best run in my opinion. They seem to do their own thing, though. My sons club rarely plays them. And if I am being honest, they used have teams that were as good as any LI team and now I think they don't have the talent of a 91, Igloo, Legacy, Outlaws or Express at this level. But I have heard they give you what's promised and have very good coaching, which is more important than being on the top team, IMHO. My advice, ask the parents of each team make sure the coach and/or the staff is 100% all in.
I see that Lax Fest went exactly as planned. The 91 teams playing in the finals and Big brother beat up on the little brother !
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
You Express parents are all delusional as usual.The only good team is the Chan team ! Others are a joke ! Schwalie team dropped to the B at Laxfest and still got smoked !
Don’t know what game you were watching but that’s a really imaginative take on what happened. RR are classless players and parents. We all know the RR player speared the outlaw player in the %#^|. And it wasn’t behind the play. It was while the ref was explaining a penalty to all the coaches. Outlaw player went back at RR player and all RR players immediately charged the field. So did outlaws. Not 1 parent went on the field. About 7-8 minutes left in game also. Without escalation? RR players started it and completely escalated it.
Congratulations to LI Express for beating DC Express in championship game of probably the deepest tourney of the summer. But what is wrong with that LI Express father?
Don’t know what game you were watching but that’s a really imaginative take on what happened. RR are classless players and parents. We all know the RR player speared the outlaw player in the %#^|. And it wasn’t behind the play. It was while the ref was explaining a penalty to all the coaches. Outlaw player went back at RR player and all RR players immediately charged the field. So did outlaws. Not 1 parent went on the field. About 7-8 minutes left in game also. Without escalation? RR players started it and completely escalated it.
Tape don't lie, unlike your anonymous post. I won't generalize like you did. I chatted with some Outlaws parents that couldn't have been nicer. They just happened to be standing with our parents because they said they were embarrassed by how the Outlaws parents were acting. I didn't really notice anything other than complaining about calls to be honest. Outlaws coaches should teach their attack player to play the game and stop cursing at parents, refs and opposition. He's too good for that.
"Can anybody tell me about fl$, don't know much about this club?"
Good program, no daddy ball-paid coaches, but too many kids on rosters and they don't play to win or practice enough. Equal playing time...
What's with the fl$$ does their program cost more than other club teams?
What's with the fl$$ does their program cost more than other club teams?
Like anything, you pay for what you get. And when you are trying for to find a way to get your son in the invite only showcases in a few years, you'll kick yourself for penny foolish. Otherwise, stick with your towns summer program.
What's the story with the West Coast Starz? Lose first game 11-0 to Juiced Cherries and then drop an 8-4 game to Chan. This the same team that beat Igloo and won the Adrenaline Tournament the weekend before?
Congratulations to LI Express for beating DC Express in championship game of probably the deepest tourney of the summer. But what is wrong with that LI Express father?
Great game between LI Express and Hawks, 6-5 Express win in a well played and tight game.
Agreed, I was just wondering why the initial post asked about fl$ but inserted a dollar sign instead of the G.
LI Lax Fest this weekend. Any predictions on who will win AA? 9D1 has 4 teams. 9D1 Smash will probably win it and are heads and tails above all others.
9D1 Carolina goalie also plays goalie for Smash, wonder who he will play with? 9D1 United is big and slow with no speed. 9D1 NJ - who knows? With Express North Parisi, Duke's Young Guns, Ducks, Millon Force and Empire Green, these are mostly B teams.
Another dumb statement. They are all A teams just not in the class of Smash or Express Chan, there was a lot of great lacrosse from these teams and why would you try to diminish that?
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Smash playing at the Express tourney this weekend..along with 91Md.
That is Fake News.. Rough Rider player takes 15 steps at Full Speed and hits Outlaw players so hard out of bounds that he fell into an elderly man .. likely grandfather of Rough Rider player. Didn’t see anyone come over to help him other than Outlaw parents... Dirty hit and no concern from Rough Rider parents... classless!
FACT MD Roughrider defenseman cheapshoted the Outlaw Attackman away from the play.
Outlaws are irrelevant. Sincerely, LI parent.
Just because they are irrelevant does not mean they should be subjected to dirty play, no matter where you are from or what club you play for. At some point in your rooting career you too will become irrelevant as will your son at some level. Stay humble.
Is TB Roberts a 2021 team ? If so , why are they playing in the 2022 division at Lax Clash ?
Outlaws are irrelevant. Sincerely, LI parent.
Oh how the mighty have fallen. Outlaws once were a top 10 Long Island team now deemed irrelevant. GO REBELS!
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
You Express parents are all delusional as usual.The only good team is the Chan team ! Others are a joke ! Schwalie team dropped to the B at Laxfest and still got smoked !
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
I see that Lax Fest went exactly as planned. The 91 teams playing in the finals and Big brother beat up on the little brother !
Funny ! I would have thought it would be a much closer game, 12-3 Smash just shows the difference between AA and A lacrosse.
Come on stop with express. They beat hawks. That’s it. You have them at 2. BBL beat them 3 times all ready this year. Express is not in the top 5. But here come the excuses......
Outlaws are irrelevant. Sincerely, LI parent.
Oh how the mighty have fallen. Outlaws once were a top 10 Long Island team now deemed irrelevant. GO REBELS!
Not top 10? Not an Outlaw fan by any means, but not a top 10 Long Island Club? Thats just a foolish remark.
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
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LI north is really a joke. 27 kids with one coach, a dad had to help out in the fall. We were told the "B" team would beat most "A" teams, that didn't happen lost every game but one.
I see that Lax Fest went exactly as planned. The 91 teams playing in the finals and Big brother beat up on the little brother !
Funny ! I would have thought it would be a much closer game, 12-3 Smash just shows the difference between AA and A lacrosse.
United is a much improved team. The new Smash team is just on a different level. Improved at every aspect of the game and when JR Plays by far the #1 team in the Country.
Check the roster after tryouts, the select team will be the Rebels team!
Come on stop with express. They beat hawks. That’s it. You have them at 2. BBL beat them 3 times all ready this year. Express is not in the top 5. But here come the excuses......
Express just won one of the 2 best tournaments so far this year and went 7-0. What did BBL Win? Best tournament coming up this weekend, Crabfest - but no SMASH or Express. Who wins?
Congratulations to LI Express for beating DC Express in championship game of probably the deepest tourney of the summer. But what is wrong with that LI Express father?
Great game between LI Express and Hawks, 6-5 Express win in a well played and tight game.
Yes, always fun to watch these 2 teams. Always very competitive , well coached teams. Express looked like the more fresh team and made less mistakes. Look forward to seeing the next match up
DC Express beat BBL twice in 2 days and Hawks--that team is on the rise.
DC Express beat BBL twice in 2 days and Hawks--that team is on the rise.
Very good team
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
LI north is really a joke. 27 kids with one coach, a dad had to help out in the fall. We were told the "B" team would beat most "A" teams, that didn't happen lost every game but one.[/quote]
All good on the Schwalje team. Great coaching, small roster, and the team doesn't get "smoked" as they have decent players.
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
LI north is really a joke. 27 kids with one coach, a dad had to help out in the fall. We were told the "B" team would beat most "A" teams, that didn't happen lost every game but one.
All good on the Schwalje team. Great coaching, small roster, and the team doesn't get "smoked" as they have decent players. [/quote]
You must not be a Schwaljie parent, all they do is complain about the coaching....where is Schwalje? They can beat a decent team either. Small roster because Chan had to give them original Chuck players to actually make a team! Go O'Rielly!
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
LI north is really a joke. 27 kids with one coach, a dad had to help out in the fall. We were told the "B" team would beat most "A" teams, that didn't happen lost every game but one.
All good on the Schwalje team. Great coaching, small roster, and the team doesn't get "smoked" as they have decent players.
You must not be a Schwaljie parent, all they do is complain about the coaching....where is Schwalje? They can beat a decent team either. Small roster because Chan had to give them original Chuck players to actually make a team! Go O'Rielly!
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False. Couldn't be happier with the team and looking forward to the next 3 years as the team adds a few pieces and as the boys go through HS.
Delusional?
No.......victims of a true scam to get as many players to play for Express at this age level after winning the world series. It is now clearly evident, that there was ZERO attempt to create a real competitive 2nd team. They spread the talent over the teams, used deceptive team names and just told the parents what they wanted to hear. Almost all of the promises made; from coaches to "hybrid teams" to "play days" instead of real tourneys, have been broken. They just do not care about any player other than the top 1/2 the players on the AA.
Extremely disappointing from a man with a great reputation.
Grass is not greener on the other side of the fence parents. You have been warned.
LI north is really a joke. 27 kids with one coach, a dad had to help out in the fall. We were told the "B" team would beat most "A" teams, that didn't happen lost every game but one.
All good on the Schwalje team. Great coaching, small roster, and the team doesn't get "smoked" as they have decent players.
You must not be a Schwaljie parent, all they do is complain about the coaching....where is Schwalje? They can beat a decent team either. Small roster because Chan had to give them original Chuck players to actually make a team! Go O'Rielly!
False. Couldn't be happier with the team and looking forward to the next 3 years as the team adds a few pieces and as the boys go through HS.[/quote]
The only team they keep together is the AA, new teams, new coaches.....glad your happy!
I see that Lax Fest went exactly as planned. The 91 teams playing in the finals and Big brother beat up on the little brother !
Funny ! I would have thought it would be a much closer game, 12-3 Smash just shows the difference between AA and A lacrosse.
United is a much improved team. The new Smash team is just on a different level. Improved at every aspect of the game and when JR Plays by far the #1 team in the Country.
What do you mean 9D1 United is improved? They lost 12-3 to 9D1 Smash, so what were they like before? Smash had a tough schedule. United had an easy schedule at Laxfest bc it was a 91 tournament, so they rolled over some easy teams that should never have been in AA (Ducks, Millon Force, Mich team). United's 2 goalies against 9D1 Smash were good bc they saved so many more goals. 9D1 United was in it for the first 3 min. After the first 3 minutes, Smash dominated that game. It was not even close.
9D1 United is a solid B team with a ton of kids. They had a sideline bigger than Chan's AA team. Why would anyone pay to be on such a big B team? The coach was yelling at his own kids and parents after games on the sideline.
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Express 6. True Michigan 3
Express 5. Team tiger 5
Express 5. Express north 6
Express 8. Icon 2.
Smoked??.. lost 1 game by 1 point. People are nuts
Who is the 2022 LI express team playing at crab feast? I thought all four of their teams were playing at tri star?
Igloo missed the playoffs at crabfeast.
What happened today at TriStar with T9-1MD and Smash? Huge brawl. What started it. 9-1MD coach banned from tournament? Refs wanted to fight T9-1MD coach according to his twitter.
Igloo missed the playoffs at crabfeast.
Laxachewsitts beat them bad, 10-4.
Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, Resolute, Crabs, MDRoughriders, Stickstar Dallas, Laxachewsettes and FCA advancing.
Most surprising is that Madlax went 0-3.
Least surprising is Crabs had an easy Pool.
I hope JR wasn’t involved. He could get in trouble for fighting with minors since he’s an adult. 😂. Holdbacks baby! Wild Wild West!
I hope JR wasn’t involved. He could get in trouble for fighting with minors since he’s an adult. 😂. Holdbacks baby! Wild Wild West!
There is a video... someone has to post it...
All MD teams in semis of Crabfeast. Too bad NY teams not playing there. Would be good to see the match ups
Mark millon running in the field calling smash defenders &$*#% person bags after his son started a fight and benches cleared
Just watched smash and 91MD. Jr is the entire smash team. 91 Md faceguarded him and when he got the ball sent a double forcing the other players to step up and the other smash players could do nothing. Smash is the same team it was last year except they added the best player in the grade. 91MD is a solid team and played wonderful but my feeling is that all these teams are the same just depends on the day of the week. When I say all these teams I’m talking the top ones because my sons team unfortunately was done early
Just watched smash and 91MD. Jr is the entire smash team. 91 Md faceguarded him and when he got the ball sent a double forcing the other players to step up and the other smash players could do nothing. Smash is the same team it was last year except they added the best player in the grade. 91MD is a solid team and played wonderful but my feeling is that all these teams are the same just depends on the day of the week. When I say all these teams I’m talking the top ones because my sons team unfortunately was done early
Yup, the other attack should have a had a field day. Chan vs 91MD in the finals. Smash and Primetime in the consolation game. No more single tier teams exist anymore. They are all elite teams and just enjoy watching it.
Express wins the ship! 9-1 over "91"
Mark millon running in the field calling smash defenders &$*#% person bags after his son started a fight and benches cleared
His son did start the fight took a hard hit and then threw the first punch. Smash defender punched him back several time and he actually ran away. what a punk.
Igloo missed the playoffs at crabfeast.
Laxachewsitts beat them bad, 10-4.
Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, Resolute, Crabs, MDRoughriders, Stickstar Dallas, Laxachewsettes and FCA advancing.
Most surprising is that Madlax went 0-3.
Least surprising is Crabs had an easy Pool.
3 good wins today for MD Roughriders against Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, then FCA to win the Crabfeast Championship at 2022. They beat a strong Resolute OH team to win IMLCA Championship last weekend.
Express wins the ship! 9-1 over "91"
Has 91MD scored 10 points in ANY games this year? 1 goal? Who coaches that offense?
I guess smash is overrated. First real tournament of the year for them and can’t even make it to championship? Typical hype for this team. Keep bringing more players from around the country though. Maybe one day you’ll be as good as express. This team in for a rude awakening at Millon in a few weeks if it can’t handle this tournament. Hear lots of unhappy parents and players on this team too. Coach overbearing and can’t do anything without a certain players “permission”. Kiss the ring.
What happened today at TriStar with T9-1MD and Smash? Huge brawl. What started it. 9-1MD coach banned from tournament? Refs wanted to fight T9-1MD coach according to his twitter.
Millon crying about being called names on Twitter. He is a mini Trump...someone needs to keep stop his emo reactive tweeting.
[quote=Anonymous]I guess smash is overrated. First real tournament of the year for them and can’t even make it to championship? Typical hype for this team. Keep bringing more players from around the country though. Maybe one day you’ll be as good as express. This team in for a rude awakening at Millon in a few weeks if it can’t handle this tournament. Hear lots of unhappy parents and players on this team too. Coach overbearing and can’t do anything without a certain players “permission”. Kiss the ring.[/quo
the NLF tournament was a real tournament and a better field of teams than this weekend with the Crabs D.C. Express, primetime, LI express Sweetlax, etc. so them winning that tournament was good. Smash is a good team not a great team but has the best player by far. Because of that they will win some tournaments and lose some. This age is hit or miss case and point this weekend. Primetime beats express by a bunch and lose to them in semi finals. Smash beats up 91 MD thenloses to them in semi. That screams parity Our express team has been short handed all summer but has managed to win last two tournaments. I've been around this age group awhile that previous comment sound like the United Crew perhaps JM himself
Igloo missed the playoffs at crabfeast.
Laxachewsitts beat them bad, 10-4.
Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, Resolute, Crabs, MDRoughriders, Stickstar Dallas, Laxachewsettes and FCA advancing.
Most surprising is that Madlax went 0-3.
Least surprising is Crabs had an easy Pool.
3 good wins today for MD Roughriders against Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, then FCA to win the Crabfeast Championship at 2022. They beat a strong Resolute OH team to win IMLCA Championship last weekend.
Good to see some teams are actually getting better. That's the true mark of good coaching and really what all of this should be about. FCA and Roughriders are improving.
I guess smash is overrated. First real tournament of the year for them and can’t even make it to championship? Typical hype for this team. Keep bringing more players from around the country though. Maybe one day you’ll be as good as express. This team in for a rude awakening at Millon in a few weeks if it can’t handle this tournament. Hear lots of unhappy parents and players on this team too. Coach overbearing and can’t do anything without a certain players “permission”. Kiss the ring.
So 9-1MD beat 9-1Smash with out coach and player that started fight after being banned?
Sounds like that coach is a great instructor, but shouldn't be coaching in competitive situations where his emotions are out of control.
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
All MD teams in semis of Crabfeast. Too bad NY teams not playing there. Would be good to see the match ups
Do Igloo and Leading Edge not count as NY teams? I know they aren't Express and 9-1, but NY was represented.
Why would Express send their B team to MD and leave their A team home to play in a local tourney? You could have played those teams all spring.
Crab feast is always one of the top tourneys of the summer.
I guess smash is overrated. First real tournament of the year for them and can’t even make it to championship? Typical hype for this team. Keep bringing more players from around the country though. Maybe one day you’ll be as good as express. This team in for a rude awakening at Millon in a few weeks if it can’t handle this tournament. Hear lots of unhappy parents and players on this team too. Coach overbearing and can’t do anything without a certain players “permission”. Kiss the ring.
Spallina sees the problem in MD first hand this weekend and on video. Will he have the guts to deal with it or keep cashing the royalty checks? Extremely talented kids are quitting lacrosse because of the way 9-1MD is being run.
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
RoughRiders added NO players. Team was in every game in the HoCo league. Started slow in the spring and has been on a roll ever since. Well coached by some of the best around. They play as total team and are fun to watch.
[quote=Anonymous]What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
Coaching and player development unlike some teams from HOCO that peaked in the spring.
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
RR playing to their potential this Summer. No roster adds since fall. FCA has a new player or 2, but beat Crabs handily in Semis. No way Crabs were tired after the games they played Saturday.
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
RRers had some uncharacteristically bad performances in the Spring, and simply had a great tournament this weekend, hallmarked by great team defense. Can't speak for FCA, but the RRers have not added a single new player to their roster since last Fall.
Igloo missed the playoffs at crabfeast.
Laxachewsitts beat them bad, 10-4.
Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, Resolute, Crabs, MDRoughriders, Stickstar Dallas, Laxachewsettes and FCA advancing.
Most surprising is that Madlax went 0-3.
Least surprising is Crabs had an easy Pool.
3 good wins today for MD Roughriders against Richmond Hawks, Annapolis Hawks, then FCA to win the Crabfeast Championship at 2022. They beat a strong Resolute OH team to win IMLCA Championship last weekend.
Good to see some teams are actually getting better. That's the true mark of good coaching and really what all of this should be about. FCA and Roughriders are improving.
True dat'
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
RR plays with same roster from day 1. This weekend they simply play better than their opponents . 2 weekends in a row walking away with hardware. Fun to see play this weekend .
I've seen Millon coach at a box tournament. Not my coach.
I guess smash is overrated. First real tournament of the year for them and can’t even make it to championship? Typical hype for this team. Keep bringing more players from around the country though. Maybe one day you’ll be as good as express. This team in for a rude awakening at Millon in a few weeks if it can’t handle this tournament. Hear lots of unhappy parents and players on this team too. Coach overbearing and can’t do anything without a certain players “permission”. Kiss the ring.
Spallina sees the problem in MD first hand this weekend and on video. Will he have the guts to deal with it or keep cashing the royalty checks? Extremely talented kids are quitting lacrosse because of the way 9-1MD is being run.
This has been a problem since day 1 - Millon’s antics, Daddy ball at the high school level, players leaving the club because of promises made about recruiting, no daddy ball, high level coaching, customer service etc. never happened. 9-1 MD exists solely for the purposes of giving its director free reign with his two sons teams to the exclusion of the rest of club and to line the pockets of corporate. Nobody in NY has cared what is happening with MD after year one.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
What happened today at TriStar with T9-1MD and Smash? Huge brawl. What started it. 9-1MD coach banned from tournament? Refs wanted to fight T9-1MD coach according to his twitter.
Millon crying about being called names on Twitter. He is a mini Trump...someone needs to keep stop his emo reactive tweeting.
Except Millon deserves it! He is everything that has ever been wrong with youth sports/club lacrosse. A complete jerk to everyone. Its all about him. Worst part is that he is raising another generation of laxholes.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
2 years in a row #9 attackman on 91MD gets tossed for throwing punches. 2 years in a row, the 91MD coach gets tossed for yelling at refs. 2 years in a row, both get to participate in games the next day. You cant lose control if you never had control.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
Lose, not loose. My guess would be the economy or the terrible update that snapchat just released.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
Frustration on the Outlaws part in their game against the Roughriders. Losing 9-5 with 3 minutes left in the game, thinking the game was being called in a one-sided fashion by the refs, and having just been called for 2 penalties on the same play (1 most likely a 2-minute, non-releasable one), that frustration boiled over. No lose of control by the Roughriders. Look homeward, angels.
We put our kids in these pressure cookers on these teams and set these expectations. Look at these tight games. Kids don't see the field, shorting the bench to win, fine. But kids don't even see the field in a youth lacrosse game. They are too young to carry this weight and it will boil.over. And this is teaching the wrong life lessons in my opinion, and it's why everyone sits white knuckled watching and two men going back and forth on twitter. This all starts with us parents and the choices we (collectively) make.
A lot of you will look back and it will change your perspective one day.
What is going on? Maryland Roughriders and FCA were two of the worst teams in the HoCo league for most of the season.
Did the add players for the playoffs and summer?
RR plays with same roster from day 1. This weekend they simply play better than their opponents . 2 weekends in a row walking away with hardware. Fun to see play this weekend .
Interesting to watch how some teams progress. Hats off to the MD RR and FCA for their summer season improvements. Looks like these squads (or at least their coaches) study film, make game plans and make great in game tactical adjustments. Running a good box is also critical in close contests.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
Frustration on the Outlaws part in their game against the Roughriders. Losing 9-5 with 3 minutes left in the game, thinking the game was being called in a one-sided fashion by the refs, and having just been called for 2 penalties on the same play (1 most likely a 2-minute, non-releasable one), that frustration boiled over. No lose of control by the Roughriders. Look homeward, angels.
7 Man ups in 2nd half for Roughriders would frustrate most
and a phantom offsides
Game was 5-4 outlaws at half
Outlaws champs of fl$ Classic avenging earlier loss to Predators.
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
Frustration on the Outlaws part in their game against the Roughriders. Losing 9-5 with 3 minutes left in the game, thinking the game was being called in a one-sided fashion by the refs, and having just been called for 2 penalties on the same play (1 most likely a 2-minute, non-releasable one), that frustration boiled over. No lose of control by the Roughriders. Look homeward, angels.
7 Man ups in 2nd half for Roughriders would frustrate most
and a phantom offsides
Game was 5-4 outlaws at half
Summer tournaments rule: Win by a large margin because you can't count on the refs. You're dealing with tired hot gents who only want the game to end early and for their paycheck to clear.. Being in the right position on the field to make the call, remembering whether we're playing NCAA or high school rules and coordinating with their fellow refs are objectives best left for the spring season. The great thing is the games don't matter and the kids figure this out pretty quickly. Generally only the adults truly care. LOL
Two weekends in a row there have been bench clearing brawls with MD teams (T9-1MD & Roughriders) vs Long Island teams (T9-1Smash & Outlaws).
What is causing these teams to loose control?
Frustration on the Outlaws part in their game against the Roughriders. Losing 9-5 with 3 minutes left in the game, thinking the game was being called in a one-sided fashion by the refs, and having just been called for 2 penalties on the same play (1 most likely a 2-minute, non-releasable one), that frustration boiled over. No lose of control by the Roughriders. Look homeward, angels.
7 Man ups in 2nd half for Roughriders would frustrate most
and a phantom offsides
Game was 5-4 outlaws at half
Only in Long Island is bad officiating an excuse for youth players to start dropping the F-Bombs to refs, opposing parents and players. Many bad calls in that game went in Outlaws favor, especially during the first half and despite some cheap play and trash talk all game off-ball from Outlaws players. Dont make excuses because your team unraveled down the stretch and was out-played.
Lax Clash reffing was particularly poor! worst I have seen in a long time........
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Again, this is probably JM (aka Dingleberry) and his United crew trying to say how good United is.
United lost every game on Saturday. United lost to:
2Way 7-4
Express Chan 8-3
9D1 Maryland 9-2
They were never even competitive in any of those games. United ended up ranked #6 out of 7 teams in AA division and lost every game in regular play. They are definitely not a AA team. On Sunday, they entered the consolation round (ranked #6) and won their 2 consolation games.
Schwalje won only one game going 1-2 in regular play in the A division and won 1 out of 2 games in the consolation round on Sunday.
Schwalje, O'Reilly, Chucks and United are failed experiments from Express and 9D1. Chan tried to capitalize on winning the World Series of Youth Lax last year by creating 4 teams. He only cares about his AA team, but with 4 teams he has about 35 kids on AA, 20 kids on the other 2 teams for a total of 95 kids. Multiply that times $3800 in up front tuition (they charged more for other training throughout the year), that is almost $400k. The Chucks team barely has enough kids showing up to practice and their coach does not show up either. O'Reilly and Schwalje picked up some kids so they got better. Parents really got screwed by Chan and thought he would bring down some of the AA kids to help out the other three teams and keep them as contenders, but instead Express keeps one dominant AA team and has 3 other teams to profit from which cannot compete at a B level.
9D1 keeps 22 kids on Smash. Great roster size, great coaching and great skill sets if you can make that team, but that team is pretty much closed.
Dingleberry and his 9D1 United team has almost as many kids as Chan - 30 kids! They kept getting bigger and kept picking up new kids. They picked up two kids last week, right at the start of summer tourney season. Talk about screwing parents over who paid, practiced and played all year, only to keep getting new kids AND getting 2 new additions right before summer play. Never play for a coach who holds tryouts, then picks up kids throughout the year. One parent told me the joke on that team is "who else is going to show up for practice?" They say EVERYONE who showed up to practice for that team was allowed on, no one was cut. Any travel team that takes your money and keeps over 25 kids is a joke. With all these kids, the best they can do is win 2 consolation games?
With tryouts around the corner, ask yourself if you want to pay this kind of money to play for Express with too many teams or with 9D1 United who will add kids throughout the year and still can't win. You can believe United will keep adding kids until they finally win some time next year.
The next teams to consider are:
F$G
Outlawz
Iglooo B
Legacee
After the above teams come True Blue, Hitmen, Empire, Force and possibly the new team called Rebels.
If they don't know you by now, your kid is not getting on Igloo AA, Chan AA or 9D1 AA. Those teams are far too talented, the kids have played together for a long time and they are closed teams.
Stay away from Express' B, C and D team. They are actually all C teams whose claim to fame is they all practice with Chan's AA team, but suffer from coaches and kids not showing up.
Stay away from 9D1 United. Dingleberry will just take your money and add kids all year!
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
1. LI Express (last two weekends earned this)
2. Smash
3. Primetime
4. MD Roughriders
5. Hawks
6. BBL
7. Crabs
8. 91 MD
9. DC Express
10. Resolute OH
Does anybody have a price breakdown for each organization? Cheapest to most expensive.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
1. LI Express (last two weekends earned this)
2. Smash
3. Primetime
4. MD Roughriders
5. Hawks
6. BBL
7. Crabs
8. 91 MD
9. DC Express
10. Resolute OH
Kinda agree but I wouldn't put the Hawks in 5th on any list for this age group- they would beat the 4 ahead of them 2 out of 3 times. Smash has 1 player and hardly deserves 2nd on this list. Primetime is just like any of the bottom of the list too- all very equal . Good but equal. RR and Express certainly deserve top spots with back to back titles in very good tournaments.
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Very well said! Your statements also apply to the parents on the sideline.
Players feed off parent actions and attitudes.
The issue with refs at these tournaments is consistency! It just seems like the rules are willy nilly. Either the refs cant be bothered to read tourney rules or the tourneys organizers dont care to properly inform the refs......
Probably both....
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Very well said! Your statements also apply to the parents on the sideline.
Players feed off parent actions and attitudes.
The issue with refs at these tournaments is consistency! It just seems like the rules are willy nilly. Either the refs cant be bothered to read tourney rules or the tourneys organizers dont care to properly inform the refs......
Probably both....
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Again, this is probably JM (aka Dingleberry) and his United crew trying to say how good United is.
United lost every game on Saturday. United lost to:
2Way 7-4
Express Chan 8-3
9D1 Maryland 9-2
They were never even competitive in any of those games. United ended up ranked #6 out of 7 teams in AA division and lost every game in regular play. They are definitely not a AA team. On Sunday, they entered the consolation round (ranked #6) and won their 2 consolation games.
Schwalje won only one game going 1-2 in regular play in the A division and won 1 out of 2 games in the consolation round on Sunday.
Schwalje, O'Reilly, Chucks and United are failed experiments from Express and 9D1. Chan tried to capitalize on winning the World Series of Youth Lax last year by creating 4 teams. He only cares about his AA team, but with 4 teams he has about 35 kids on AA, 20 kids on the other 2 teams for a total of 95 kids. Multiply that times $3800 in up front tuition (they charged more for other training throughout the year), that is almost $400k. The Chucks team barely has enough kids showing up to practice and their coach does not show up either. O'Reilly and Schwalje picked up some kids so they got better. Parents really got screwed by Chan and thought he would bring down some of the AA kids to help out the other three teams and keep them as contenders, but instead Express keeps one dominant AA team and has 3 other teams to profit from which cannot compete at a B level.
9D1 keeps 22 kids on Smash. Great roster size, great coaching and great skill sets if you can make that team, but that team is pretty much closed.
Dingleberry and his 9D1 United team has almost as many kids as Chan - 30 kids! They kept getting bigger and kept picking up new kids. They picked up two kids last week, right at the start of summer tourney season. Talk about screwing parents over who paid, practiced and played all year, only to keep getting new kids AND getting 2 new additions right before summer play. Never play for a coach who holds tryouts, then picks up kids throughout the year. One parent told me the joke on that team is "who else is going to show up for practice?" They say EVERYONE who showed up to practice for that team was allowed on, no one was cut. Any travel team that takes your money and keeps over 25 kids is a joke. With all these kids, the best they can do is win 2 consolation games?
With tryouts around the corner, ask yourself if you want to pay this kind of money to play for Express with too many teams or with 9D1 United who will add kids throughout the year and still can't win. You can believe United will keep adding kids until they finally win some time next year.
The next teams to consider are:
F$G
Outlawz
Iglooo B
Legacee
After the above teams come True Blue, Hitmen, Empire, Force and possibly the new team called Rebels.
If they don't know you by now, your kid is not getting on Igloo AA, Chan AA or 9D1 AA. Those teams are far too talented, the kids have played together for a long time and they are closed teams.
Stay away from Express' B, C and D team. They are actually all C teams whose claim to fame is they all practice with Chan's AA team, but suffer from coaches and kids not showing up.
Stay away from 9D1 United. Dingleberry will just take your money and add kids all year!
Who are you?
I cannot attest to all your issues with United BUT this is the best, most honest, most accurate assessment of the clubs ever posted to this site!!!!
Sadly, bravo. Money corrupts everthing, including youth sports.
Wow, disgruntled/jealous/weird laxfreak much?! Let it go. Breath deep and think about new hobbies.
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Thank you for sharing, I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to profess that I have an easy fix, but it 100% starts and finishes with the adults. Coaches, Parents, Aunts/Uncles...
If WE spread positive, the kids follow. If WE display self-control in the face of adversity, the kids will follow. I LOVE this game. It's sad what can be seen, not all the time, but too often, at these games. And for what?! A T-Shirt?!
Club Directors have the greatest responsibility to the game, and that is to help foster better sportsmanship at these pay-for-play tournaments. Winning IS NOT, everything! COMPETING IS! In particular when the competitors have fought hard, and HONORABLY.
CLUB DIRECTORS: Pony up! Give back to the game that has enriched you. Start a Coalition for positive change in youth lacrosse that promotes friendship, competition and respect! I'm sure US Lacrosse, or any local lacrosse organization would welcome the leadership.
Week 3 update?[/quote]
1. LI Express (last two weekends earned this)
2. Smash
3. Primetime
4. MD Roughriders
5. Hawks
6. BBL
7. Crabs
8. 91 MD
9. DC Express
10. Resolute OH
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Kinda agree but I wouldn't put the Hawks in 5th on any list for this age group- they would beat the 4 ahead of them 2 out of 3 times. Smash has 1 player and hardly deserves 2nd on this list. Primetime is just like any of the bottom of the list too- all very equal . Good but equal. RR and Express certainly deserve top spots with back to back titles in very good tournaments. [/quote]
Agree that Hawks are better than 5. RR undefeated this summer. Express deserving with 2 ships in a row. FCA demolished Crabs and lost tight game to RR so should be on the list. 91MD has no business being on this list at all. A lot of parity among clubs this summer which makes it great to watch. More interesting when games are less predictable.
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Very well said! Your statements also apply to the parents on the sideline.
Players feed off parent actions and attitudes.
The issue with refs at these tournaments is consistency! It just seems like the rules are willy nilly. Either the refs cant be bothered to read tourney rules or the tourneys organizers dont care to properly inform the refs......
Probably both....
So your kid was a guess player was the team short of players? or did your kid take playing time of other kids that their parent paid alot of money to be on team. I would never let my kid do that. IMO
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Completely agree with your comments. I would ask the refs to know the rules and do their best. Don't just show up for a paycheck. Parents pay upwards of $2k for a summer of lacrosse plus travel and hotels. Respect the game and know the rules (NCAA or high school) and take pride in your sport. You're the only folks (aside from the tourney organizers, club directors and coaches) getting paid out there.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
Why are we ranking teams when these teams are all playing in different tournaments, in different brackets, different states, different refs, some teams change their roster from tourney to tourney, etc. etc. Most of them have never even played against each other. This makes zero sense. This guy thinks he is the all star statistician. I can't believe you are actually chomping at the bit for his next Paul Carcaterra wannabe ranking
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
Why are we ranking teams when these teams are all playing in different tournaments, in different brackets, different states, different refs, some teams change their roster from tourney to tourney, etc. etc. Most of them have never even played against each other. This makes zero sense. This guy thinks he is the all star statistician. I can't believe you are actually chomping at the bit for his next Paul Carcaterra wannabe ranking
It's just light hearted fun blogging. Take a chill. It does mean nothing other than some teams rhat were not considered elite a year ago, are now playing really well. No big deal. Nobody ranking (me included) ever boasted qualifications or claimed to have them, just makes conversation, until somebody has something negative to add.. So, please, respectfully, turn off your blog police sirens.
DC Express should be much higher on this list--lost in finals to LI Express at best toureny of the summer beating Hawks and BBL (twice) along the way (among others).
Igloo has beat BBL 2 out of 3
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Thank you for sharing, I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to profess that I have an easy fix, but it 100% starts and finishes with the adults. Coaches, Parents, Aunts/Uncles...
If WE spread positive, the kids follow. If WE display self-control in the face of adversity, the kids will follow. I LOVE this game. It's sad what can be seen, not all the time, but too often, at these games. And for what?! A T-Shirt?!
Club Directors have the greatest responsibility to the game, and that is to help foster better sportsmanship at these pay-for-play tournaments. Winning IS NOT, everything! COMPETING IS! In particular when the competitors have fought hard, and HONORABLY.
CLUB DIRECTORS: Pony up! Give back to the game that has enriched you. Start a Coalition for positive change in youth lacrosse that promotes friendship, competition and respect! I'm sure US Lacrosse, or any local lacrosse organization would welcome the leadership.
I assuming this post is in reference to the embarrassing display of MM and Team 91 last weekend. A bench clearing brawl; this club owner and coach encompasses everything that is wrong with youth sports today. Something needs to be done to clears the sidelines of these types of coaches.
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Completely agree with your comments. I would ask the refs to know the rules and do their best. Don't just show up for a paycheck. Parents pay upwards of $2k for a summer of lacrosse plus travel and hotels. Respect the game and know the rules (NCAA or high school) and take pride in your sport. You're the only folks (aside from the tourney organizers, club directors and coaches) getting paid out there.
I have witnessed refs that are completely clueless to the rules and what truly constitutes a penalty. I have heard refs get into with parents more and more. I have heard them say they gave a kid a penalty because he was bigger that the other kid. A lot show up with this attitude that they know better and everyone else knows nothing. So they are also part of the problem.
The stress and expectations of winning be placed on children is the root cause. But that won't change. Sorry to be a cynic. Winning creates revenue and these egotistical coaches and clubs can't wait to boast on social media about their team. When it's really about them. Watch how many kids won't get their name called or see the field on the aired WSYL final next week. Those parents will tell every family member and friend to watch... only to see a glimpse of the kid on a dog pile at the end. Such a pitty, but winning trumps all and stress is strating to boil over on the field, on the benches and on social media.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Outlaws champs of fl$ Classic avenging earlier loss to Predators.
LOL !! Winning a B tournament now that something to hang your hat on ! Go Rebels !
I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.
The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.
Thank you for sharing, I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to profess that I have an easy fix, but it 100% starts and finishes with the adults. Coaches, Parents, Aunts/Uncles...
If WE spread positive, the kids follow. If WE display self-control in the face of adversity, the kids will follow. I LOVE this game. It's sad what can be seen, not all the time, but too often, at these games. And for what?! A T-Shirt?!
Club Directors have the greatest responsibility to the game, and that is to help foster better sportsmanship at these pay-for-play tournaments. Winning IS NOT, everything! COMPETING IS! In particular when the competitors have fought hard, and HONORABLY.
CLUB DIRECTORS: Pony up! Give back to the game that has enriched you. Start a Coalition for positive change in youth lacrosse that promotes friendship, competition and respect! I'm sure US Lacrosse, or any local lacrosse organization would welcome the leadership.
I assuming this post is in reference to the embarrassing display of MM and Team 91 last weekend. A bench clearing brawl; this club owner and coach encompasses everything that is wrong with youth sports today. Something needs to be done to clears the sidelines of these types of coaches.
No it was not, this was 5 weeks ago or so and I only posted because of what I read
I was there and there are two sides to the story. For the record, I have no dog in the fight. I was there watching another team. Also for the record, the club owner you reference is one and the same. Both teams in the game were Team 91. One from MD and one from NY. Once club owner is ultimately responsible for both team's behavior. That said, I saw both games the two teams played. The brawl as you call it started with the referees and not keeping control of the game. One cross check to the head, ok, but two and three without blowing your whistle? That is how this escalated and blaming one team and not the other is silly. This is a fast moving, passionately played game. If officials do not control the kids, things are bound to go off the rails. First punch definitely thrown by #9 from MD, BUT only after he had been deliberately hit in the head multiple times, the last leading to his helmet flying off. At that point, the officials had lost control and it was every man/kid for themselves. The kid reacted as most would and cracked the guy. Then things were a mess. Sad for the game that so many love. Many, many things wrong with the game at this level. Coaches, parents, tournament directors, college coaches, etc. But don't put all of the blame for one incident on one coach and team. It was a group effort. Again, I was there and I heard plenty of chatter coming from both benches and both coaches, so signaling one out isn't fair. To be honest, one of the positives I saw come out of this incident was the following day. As luck would have it, these teams would meet again 24 hours later in the semifinals. The officials did set the tone early by calling a penalty right off the bat. He said I'm not gonna have it today. Not gonna happen. The game was physical and aggressive, but played within the rules. It was high level lacrosse played the way it should be. Again, no dog in the fight, but you have to give credit to the team from MD. They were on the road after an ugly incident, which did include a lopsided loss in which the better team won. They were composed, played their jerks off, were physical and made a statement WITHIN the rules. They dominated a team that had done the same to them just 24 hours earlier. Great show of courage by those boys. Smash took the defeat with class as well. So even though it was an ugly situation, there was some positivity that followed. I hope we don't see these incidents in the future, but chances are they will continue. It's an aggressive sport played by players and coaches that care. Passion sometimes leads to stupidity, but I believe inside the players and most coaches have good intentions.
Give it a break loser. The team won 4 games over the course of the weekend. Why taint it with your comment? You are the loser to come on here and do that. Get a life. Commnet on the Outlaw moms and their tats if you must be give the kids their due.
Outlaws champs of fl$ Classic avenging earlier loss to Predators.
LOL !! Winning a B tournament now that something to hang your hat on ! Go Rebels !
FYI not every team is an A team, I am sure the kids worked hard for GB ( That is short for ground balls, in case you didn't know) and to win they must have played hard has a team. one thing I am sure of some of those kids will be A team caliber one day. I am sure it was a nice fun family weekend for kids and parents. and that's what sports is all about. Both my boys where B team players at that age both went D1.
I was there and there are two sides to the story. For the record, I have no dog in the fight. I was there watching another team. Also for the record, the club owner you reference is one and the same. Both teams in the game were Team 91. One from MD and one from NY. Once club owner is ultimately responsible for both team's behavior. That said, I saw both games the two teams played. The brawl as you call it started with the referees and not keeping control of the game. One cross check to the head, ok, but two and three without blowing your whistle? That is how this escalated and blaming one team and not the other is silly. This is a fast moving, passionately played game. If officials do not control the kids, things are bound to go off the rails. First punch definitely thrown by #9 from MD, BUT only after he had been deliberately hit in the head multiple times, the last leading to his helmet flying off. At that point, the officials had lost control and it was every man/kid for themselves. The kid reacted as most would and cracked the guy. Then things were a mess. Sad for the game that so many love. Many, many things wrong with the game at this level. Coaches, parents, tournament directors, college coaches, etc. But don't put all of the blame for one incident on one coach and team. It was a group effort. Again, I was there and I heard plenty of chatter coming from both benches and both coaches, so signaling one out isn't fair. To be honest, one of the positives I saw come out of this incident was the following day. As luck would have it, these teams would meet again 24 hours later in the semifinals. The officials did set the tone early by calling a penalty right off the bat. He said I'm not gonna have it today. Not gonna happen. The game was physical and aggressive, but played within the rules. It was high level lacrosse played the way it should be. Again, no dog in the fight, but you have to give credit to the team from MD. They were on the road after an ugly incident, which did include a lopsided loss in which the better team won. They were composed, played their jerks off, were physical and made a statement WITHIN the rules. They dominated a team that had done the same to them just 24 hours earlier. Great show of courage by those boys. Smash took the defeat with class as well. So even though it was an ugly situation, there was some positivity that followed. I hope we don't see these incidents in the future, but chances are they will continue. It's an aggressive sport played by players and coaches that care. Passion sometimes leads to stupidity, but I believe inside the players and most coaches have good intentions.
Since you were there and have no dog in the fight, why did you leave out the part where Millon was calling kids on Smash scumbags and Long Island trash? That seems like it could be part of the story. Was this the first time the kid threw a punch or cheap shot in a game? How many times has Millon been thrown out of a game or tournament? I bet it is 5 or more in the last year alone. The lacrosse community is small. People talk. Sometimes people talk between games about their own coach because they are frustrated that he acts like a child.
MD RR play dirty-Fact. You hit me with a stick in the privates away from the play and I will jam it back up yours. To not react to the RR BS would be wrong.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Fake news, The Schwalje team tied Igloo and lost a one goal game and an overtime game to the 2nd Laxchucetts team this weekend. Got beat by a solid True Blue team, but that's the 4th time the two have played them and it's 2-2.
MD RR play dirty-Fact. You hit me with a stick in the privates away from the play and I will jam it back up yours. To not react to the RR BS would be wrong.
You OK? Need a tissue?
Outlaws champs of fl$ Classic avenging earlier loss to Predators.
LOL !! Winning a B tournament now that something to hang your hat on ! Go Rebels !
There were some very good teams at that tournament, I would call it an A- tourney.
MD RR play dirty-Fact. You hit me with a stick in the privates away from the play and I will jam it back up yours. To not react to the RR BS would be wrong.
Not sure what you were watching but you have no idea what you are talking about. This didn't happen and would never happen. RR coaches would pull their player from the game if they saw that and give him a stern talking. Seems you have an ax to grind. Maybe you are a LI Outlaws parent. Now there is a team that plays dirty, each and every game. You have never heard that MD RR play that way, why, because they don't. Get your facts straight before posting completely false stories. Pathetic.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
Why are we ranking teams when these teams are all playing in different tournaments, in different brackets, different states, different refs, some teams change their roster from tourney to tourney, etc. etc. Most of them have never even played against each other. This makes zero sense. This guy thinks he is the all star statistician. I can't believe you are actually chomping at the bit for his next Paul Carcaterra wannabe ranking
It's just light hearted fun blogging. Take a chill. It does mean nothing other than some teams rhat were not considered elite a year ago, are now playing really well. No big deal. Nobody ranking (me included) ever boasted qualifications or claimed to have them, just makes conversation, until somebody has something negative to add.. So, please, respectfully, turn off your blog police sirens.
hahahahahahahahahaha love that reply
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
1. LI Express (last two weekends earned this)
2. Smash
3. Primetime
4. MD Roughriders
5. Hawks
6. BBL
7. Crabs
8. 91 MD
9. DC Express
10. Resolute OH
Kinda agree but I wouldn't put the Hawks in 5th on any list for this age group- they would beat the 4 ahead of them 2 out of 3 times. Smash has 1 player and hardly deserves 2nd on this list. Primetime is just like any of the bottom of the list too- all very equal . Good but equal. RR and Express certainly deserve top spots with back to back titles in very good tournaments.
I also kinda agree.
It's just amazing how terrible FCA, T9-1MD, and Roughriders looked in the spring at times and now they are putting together amazing summers.
FCA should be on the list somewhere. Lost to Mesa and MD Roughriders both by 1 goal. Absolutely destroyed Crabs, but FCA seems to be killing Crabs at every age level.
No argument with top 3. Long Island teams looking very strong. Hopefully all these teams can get together at Naptown or NLF club championships.
9-1MD did well getting the win against 9-1 Smash, but the blowout losses to Express and 9-1 Smash along with the brawl make me think they should be a little lower.
Resolute may be a little high as well. Crabs torched those guys this weekend. FCA should probably be in that spot.
BBL lost to Igloo and Laxachusettes so I'd probably put Laxachusettes in above them.
I was there and there are two sides to the story. For the record, I have no dog in the fight. I was there watching another team. Also for the record, the club owner you reference is one and the same. Both teams in the game were Team 91. One from MD and one from NY. Once club owner is ultimately responsible for both team's behavior. That said, I saw both games the two teams played. The brawl as you call it started with the referees and not keeping control of the game. One cross check to the head, ok, but two and three without blowing your whistle? That is how this escalated and blaming one team and not the other is silly. This is a fast moving, passionately played game. If officials do not control the kids, things are bound to go off the rails. First punch definitely thrown by #9 from MD, BUT only after he had been deliberately hit in the head multiple times, the last leading to his helmet flying off. At that point, the officials had lost control and it was every man/kid for themselves. The kid reacted as most would and cracked the guy. Then things were a mess. Sad for the game that so many love. Many, many things wrong with the game at this level. Coaches, parents, tournament directors, college coaches, etc. But don't put all of the blame for one incident on one coach and team. It was a group effort. Again, I was there and I heard plenty of chatter coming from both benches and both coaches, so signaling one out isn't fair. To be honest, one of the positives I saw come out of this incident was the following day. As luck would have it, these teams would meet again 24 hours later in the semifinals. The officials did set the tone early by calling a penalty right off the bat. He said I'm not gonna have it today. Not gonna happen. The game was physical and aggressive, but played within the rules. It was high level lacrosse played the way it should be. Again, no dog in the fight, but you have to give credit to the team from MD. They were on the road after an ugly incident, which did include a lopsided loss in which the better team won. They were composed, played their jerks off, were physical and made a statement WITHIN the rules. They dominated a team that had done the same to them just 24 hours earlier. Great show of courage by those boys. Smash took the defeat with class as well. So even though it was an ugly situation, there was some positivity that followed. I hope we don't see these incidents in the future, but chances are they will continue. It's an aggressive sport played by players and coaches that care. Passion sometimes leads to stupidity, but I believe inside the players and most coaches have good intentions.
Since you were there and have no dog in the fight, why did you leave out the part where Millon was calling kids on Smash scumbags and Long Island trash? That seems like it could be part of the story. Was this the first time the kid threw a punch or cheap shot in a game? How many times has Millon been thrown out of a game or tournament? I bet it is 5 or more in the last year alone. The lacrosse community is small. People talk. Sometimes people talk between games about their own coach because they are frustrated that he acts like a child.
Isn't Millon from Long Island? Somehow I don't think calling kids Long Island trash would be his go-to insult.
Granted - MM is terrible at coaching kids and doesn't see why you don't treat them like 20 year olds, but in this case, the reffing by all accounts sees horrendous - even by Long Island Summer Tournament standards.
Any kid getting repeated checks to the head will be forced to protect himself if the refs don't do it for him.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
Why are we ranking teams when these teams are all playing in different tournaments, in different brackets, different states, different refs, some teams change their roster from tourney to tourney, etc. etc. Most of them have never even played against each other. This makes zero sense. This guy thinks he is the all star statistician. I can't believe you are actually chomping at the bit for his next Paul Carcaterra wannabe ranking
It's just light hearted fun blogging. Take a chill. It does mean nothing other than some teams rhat were not considered elite a year ago, are now playing really well. No big deal. Nobody ranking (me included) ever boasted qualifications or claimed to have them, just makes conversation, until somebody has something negative to add.. So, please, respectfully, turn off your blog police sirens.
hahahahahahahahahaha love that reply
really??? then you're and even bigger loser than he is!
Definitely sounds like you have a personal issue with JM. Did he cut your son or nephew perhaps.........Time to set aside your anger. I don't have any connections with United, but I watched some of their games this year. They are a much better team than you have described.
I was there and there are two sides to the story. For the record, I have no dog in the fight. I was there watching another team. Also for the record, the club owner you reference is one and the same. Both teams in the game were Team 91. One from MD and one from NY. Once club owner is ultimately responsible for both team's behavior. That said, I saw both games the two teams played. The brawl as you call it started with the referees and not keeping control of the game. One cross check to the head, ok, but two and three without blowing your whistle? That is how this escalated and blaming one team and not the other is silly. This is a fast moving, passionately played game. If officials do not control the kids, things are bound to go off the rails. First punch definitely thrown by #9 from MD, BUT only after he had been deliberately hit in the head multiple times, the last leading to his helmet flying off. At that point, the officials had lost control and it was every man/kid for themselves. The kid reacted as most would and cracked the guy. Then things were a mess. Sad for the game that so many love. Many, many things wrong with the game at this level. Coaches, parents, tournament directors, college coaches, etc. But don't put all of the blame for one incident on one coach and team. It was a group effort. Again, I was there and I heard plenty of chatter coming from both benches and both coaches, so signaling one out isn't fair. To be honest, one of the positives I saw come out of this incident was the following day. As luck would have it, these teams would meet again 24 hours later in the semifinals. The officials did set the tone early by calling a penalty right off the bat. He said I'm not gonna have it today. Not gonna happen. The game was physical and aggressive, but played within the rules. It was high level lacrosse played the way it should be. Again, no dog in the fight, but you have to give credit to the team from MD. They were on the road after an ugly incident, which did include a lopsided loss in which the better team won. They were composed, played their jerks off, were physical and made a statement WITHIN the rules. They dominated a team that had done the same to them just 24 hours earlier. Great show of courage by those boys. Smash took the defeat with class as well. So even though it was an ugly situation, there was some positivity that followed. I hope we don't see these incidents in the future, but chances are they will continue. It's an aggressive sport played by players and coaches that care. Passion sometimes leads to stupidity, but I believe inside the players and most coaches have good intentions.
The officials frequently lose control of games where Millon is coaching because he is yelling at them the ENTIRE game. Last year at NLF his son popped up throwing punches and was tossed from the game. Millon has been tossed from many youth lacrosse games in recent years, just like last weekend. His behavior towards refs, toward opposing players and towards his own players when they do not live up to his expectations is totally unacceptable. He chased away at least 2 players AGAIN this year by focusing his rage on them. It happens EVERY year with this guy. People who come on here and make excuses for it over and over are doing youth lacrosse a disservice. If you really know him and have dealt with him, you KNOW you are wrong. Trying to shift the argument to overlook his behavior for his "coaching abilities" no longer works. His offense has averaged 6 points for as long as 91MD has existed, while that team sits on 2-3 of the best defenders at 2022 and some other incredible local/fly-in players. His son gets abused because every player and coach at the 2022 level is smart enough to know they can easily win by playing aggressive defense on #9. He will lose his cool and start handing the ball back to the other team! #9 is allowed to do that, while all the other players get yelled at or benched for turning the ball over. If #9 doesn't take a thousand bad shots trying to satisfy his dad, then dad coach will unravel and get his share of bench penalties, or mentally beat the team down until they play with their tail between their legs. Pretty simple formula when you know every play is designed to go through 1 player and that the coach is a stick of dynamite waiting to explode on the team. Glad to see he calmed down long enough to win on Sunday, which is usually the case when he takes his hands off approach after going berserk the day before. Love how he rushed to social media to play the victim. His teams always have big wins right after one of his explosions because he has to calm down and let them play on their own until the magnifying glass over him goes away. Classic narcissism.
MD RR play dirty-Fact. You hit me with a stick in the privates away from the play and I will jam it back up yours. To not react to the RR BS would be wrong.
^^Fiction^^ Fact>>Outlaw player called RR player a F!@#$ P!@## and shoved him after RR player said stop dropping the F-Bombs to the ref. Outlaws played cheap and taunted the RR players the entire game! Plenty of people know who the Outlaws are and how they play, so your argument is hard to make. It would have been a HUGE win for the Outlaw team, but no reason to unravel in the second half like that.
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Kid shouldn’t have thrown a punch, and was right to be tossed, but the check to his head ripped his helmet off and was incredibly dangerous. Bad enough it was Millon’s kid, but suspect he would have gone crazy if that happened to any of his players.
I was there and there are two sides to the story. For the record, I have no dog in the fight. I was there watching another team. Also for the record, the club owner you reference is one and the same. Both teams in the game were Team 91. One from MD and one from NY. Once club owner is ultimately responsible for both team's behavior. That said, I saw both games the two teams played. The brawl as you call it started with the referees and not keeping control of the game. One cross check to the head, ok, but two and three without blowing your whistle? That is how this escalated and blaming one team and not the other is silly. This is a fast moving, passionately played game. If officials do not control the kids, things are bound to go off the rails. First punch definitely thrown by #9 from MD, BUT only after he had been deliberately hit in the head multiple times, the last leading to his helmet flying off. At that point, the officials had lost control and it was every man/kid for themselves. The kid reacted as most would and cracked the guy. Then things were a mess. Sad for the game that so many love. Many, many things wrong with the game at this level. Coaches, parents, tournament directors, college coaches, etc. But don't put all of the blame for one incident on one coach and team. It was a group effort. Again, I was there and I heard plenty of chatter coming from both benches and both coaches, so signaling one out isn't fair. To be honest, one of the positives I saw come out of this incident was the following day. As luck would have it, these teams would meet again 24 hours later in the semifinals. The officials did set the tone early by calling a penalty right off the bat. He said I'm not gonna have it today. Not gonna happen. The game was physical and aggressive, but played within the rules. It was high level lacrosse played the way it should be. Again, no dog in the fight, but you have to give credit to the team from MD. They were on the road after an ugly incident, which did include a lopsided loss in which the better team won. They were composed, played their jerks off, were physical and made a statement WITHIN the rules. They dominated a team that had done the same to them just 24 hours earlier. Great show of courage by those boys. Smash took the defeat with class as well. So even though it was an ugly situation, there was some positivity that followed. I hope we don't see these incidents in the future, but chances are they will continue. It's an aggressive sport played by players and coaches that care. Passion sometimes leads to stupidity, but I believe inside the players and most coaches have good intentions.
Since you were there and have no dog in the fight, why did you leave out the part where Millon was calling kids on Smash scumbags and Long Island trash? That seems like it could be part of the story. Was this the first time the kid threw a punch or cheap shot in a game? How many times has Millon been thrown out of a game or tournament? I bet it is 5 or more in the last year alone. The lacrosse community is small. People talk. Sometimes people talk between games about their own coach because they are frustrated that he acts like a child.
Isn't Millon from Long Island? Somehow I don't think calling kids Long Island trash would be his go-to insult.
Granted - MM is terrible at coaching kids and doesn't see why you don't treat them like 20 year olds, but in this case, the reffing by all accounts sees horrendous - even by Long Island Summer Tournament standards.
Any kid getting repeated checks to the head will be forced to protect himself if the refs don't do it for him.
Great first week of club lacrosse. Smash is back, Looks like they got bigger and faster at every position. Going to be tough to beat with or without JR.
Week 1 Ranks;
1. Smash
2. West Coast Starz
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Igloo
6. DC Express
7. Team 91 MD
8. HHH
9. Leading Edge
10. API Diamond Backs
LI Express had a bunch of kids missing do to injury. Will be interesting to see how the Holdback Hawks do this year with out their big Goalie who now plays for the Crabs.
Big Move by the LI Express this week. Smash still the top dog after killing everyone in a town tournament. New teams to top 10 Hawks, Juiced Cherries, MD Roughriders and Resolute OH.
Week 2 Rankings
1. Smash
2. LI Express
3. Crabs
4. Primetime
5. Hawks
6. DC Express
7. BBL
8. Juiced Cherries
9. MD Roughriders
10. Resolute OH
Week 3 update?
Why are we ranking teams when these teams are all playing in different tournaments, in different brackets, different states, different refs, some teams change their roster from tourney to tourney, etc. etc. Most of them have never even played against each other. This makes zero sense. This guy thinks he is the all star statistician. I can't believe you are actually chomping at the bit for his next Paul Carcaterra wannabe ranking
It's just light hearted fun blogging. Take a chill. It does mean nothing other than some teams rhat were not considered elite a year ago, are now playing really well. No big deal. Nobody ranking (me included) ever boasted qualifications or claimed to have them, just makes conversation, until somebody has something negative to add.. So, please, respectfully, turn off your blog police sirens.
hahahahahahahahahaha love that reply
Thanks, I try to keep it fun and informative when posting. I may occasionally slip and sound negative, but all in all this site should be a great resource. Not a place for people to spill out their frustrations over a bad experience. Share the negative, no doubt, it's good to hear. But sometimes it's gets a little much. For example, tryouts will be here in a month, shockingly. It used be September. But during tryout season people should share their experiences, with a club or coach, not what they heard 2nd and 3rd hand.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Fake news, The Schwalje team tied Igloo and lost a one goal game and an overtime game to the 2nd Laxchucetts team this weekend. Got beat by a solid True Blue team, but that's the 4th time the two have played them and it's 2-2.
Huh, Schwalje did not play Igloo last weekend? Is this a highlight reel?
I didn't hear the part about MM calling kids scumbags or trash. You must have been on the bench to be able to hear that. No idea how many times he or any coach has been tossed. You really seem to have a problem with him, so I assume you have witnessed all of his games and his son's games. Someone is hitting my kid in the head like that, he's throwing down and I'm fine with it. Not an advocate of fighting, at this level in particular, but the hits were egregious. Stick to the head, both hands, with maximum force. Far more of a concern than a kid hitting another kid in the helmet with a glove on his hand as a way to protect himself. Again, started with the officials losing control. Heat of the moment. Any kid at this level of play would have reacted the same way. If it was my kid, I would certainly hope so. There are a ton of problems at these tournaments. The Directors play favorites. They don't hold officials accountable. They discipline one coach and not the other. The coaches are almost all over the top. Referees mouth off to the fans. Fans mouth off to the referees. Coaches and referees back and forth. In general, not just tournament related, but you have coaches that allow one player to run the team. Everyone knows who they are. Everyone knows who runs a certain NY team. Everyone knows who runs the other teams. Coaches sons have the offense run through them and if they don't touch it or make the play, there is heck to pay. Last thing I will mention is the age situation. Grade based is one way to go. BUT if you are going that route, you absolutely MUST have some sort of age restriction. No secret that a certain NY team has a kid that either does or could drive to games. That is a joke. Hold backs are part of the game, but when you get two and sometimes three years older than some of the players, that is a problem.
That's all I got. A lot to be fixed in this sport at this level. BUT a lot of good out there too. For the most part, good kids, some good coaches and a lot of dedicated parents. It just goes haywire now and then.
You seem to know a lot for an outsider. Are you a disgruntled 91 parent? There are some of those. Which team are or were you a parent for?
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
you are joking, right. None of these team would even think of playing the teams United played last weekend. You should just take United off the list and replace them with teams that don't play real competition like Legacy, Outlaws or Hitmen. They all pretend to be an A/AA team but are more inline with this list.
Comical. What angels those RR players must be defending the refs honor. That is such BS. Penalty against outlaws was on offensive end. RR player butt ended outlaw on opposite end of field. Your little angel is not what you think. Typical MD garbage though.
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
you are joking, right. None of these team would even think of playing the teams United played last weekend. You should just take United off the list and replace them with teams that don't play real competition like Legacy, Outlaws or Hitmen. They all pretend to be an A/AA team but are more inline with this list.
United may play in the AA bracket but don't really belong there. They are a B+ team until they Marksberry steals more kids from other teams, simple as that!
Comical. What angels those RR players must be defending the refs honor. That is such BS. Penalty against outlaws was on offensive end. RR player butt ended outlaw on opposite end of field. Your little angel is not what you think. Typical MD garbage though.
No, typical LI garbage all over the field that game, including the coaches and some of the parents. Some Outlaw parents came down and watched the game with the MDRR parents, they were so embarrassed by the Outlaw parents behavior. When you can't defend the truth you revert to false statements and name calling. How childish.
Typical Long Island garbage continues, including your garbage/false post.
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Again, a Long Island or an Outlaws parent watching a game thru rose colored glasses and seeing what he wants to see. RR coaches will pull a player from a game, I've seen it happen before, especially the coach you described. They will not condone that type of behavior. The most obnoxious of all were some of the Outlaws parents/fans. I spent three quarters watching the game and talking to some Outlaws parents, who came to the RR side because they were so embarrassed by the behavior of the Outlaws parents. Get your facts straight and stop spinning BS.
Comical. What angels those RR players must be defending the refs honor. That is such BS. Penalty against outlaws was on offensive end. RR player butt ended outlaw on opposite end of field. Your little angel is not what you think. Typical MD garbage though.
Kid probably deserved it if he is anything like you. Could you be any more annoying?
KETTLE.....MEET POT. NOT MY RR CHILD. HE WOULD NEVER...FACTS ARE STRAIGHT. Coaches had absolutely no control nor did they care what the RR players were doing. They didn’t pull that player that day so don’t expect us to believe they did it before. Stop with the not my child nonsense. Just admit your child did and we could all move on. Outlaws acted like stunads AND SO DID RR’s. Stop saying you did nothing wrong. BTW RR parents might be the worst we’ve ever seen. Whiny whiny.
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
you are joking, right. None of these team would even think of playing the teams United played last weekend. You should just take United off the list and replace them with teams that don't play real competition like Legacy, Outlaws or Hitmen. They all pretend to be an A/AA team but are more inline with this list.
United may play in the AA bracket but don't really belong there. They are a B+ team until they Marksberry steals more kids from other teams, simple as that!
Parents need to share info since tryouts are around the corner. Watch out for coaches like Dingleberry and his United team who hold tryouts which mean nothing, add 10 kids throughout the year, always looks to steal good players from other teams instead of training up the kids he has and cut deals with new kids to join his team while other parents pay full tuition. He screams at Refs on the sideline, even yelling at his Asst. Coaches on the sidelines. Dingleberry is everything that is wrong with travel lacrosse.
KETTLE.....MEET POT. NOT MY RR CHILD. HE WOULD NEVER...FACTS ARE STRAIGHT. Coaches had absolutely no control nor did they care what the RR players were doing. They didn’t pull that player that day so don’t expect us to believe they did it before. Stop with the not my child nonsense. Just admit your child did and we could all move on. Outlaws acted like stunads AND SO DID RR’s. Stop saying you did nothing wrong. BTW RR parents might be the worst we’ve ever seen. Whiny whiny.
Whiny whiny, you mean something like you???
KETTLE.....MEET POT. NOT MY RR CHILD. HE WOULD NEVER...FACTS ARE STRAIGHT. Coaches had absolutely no control nor did they care what the RR players were doing. They didn’t pull that player that day so don’t expect us to believe they did it before. Stop with the not my child nonsense. Just admit your child did and we could all move on. Outlaws acted like stunads AND SO DID RR’s. Stop saying you did nothing wrong. BTW RR parents might be the worst we’ve ever seen. Whiny whiny.
Whiny whiny, you mean something like you???
Note to RR fans from one of your own: Enough already! Stop rising to the bait. There's nothing to defend here. The Outlaws and the tournament are in the rear view mirror. Let's move on.
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Uh, know exactly who he is. Just didn’t want to use names like you just did. But since you did I’ll take it from there. That guy is one of the most despised individuals in the lax community. And yes he acts like that every game. Ask around opposing sidelines and see the reaction. And please don’t state what a great player he was. Wasn’t better than 91MD coach and we all know how that is going. Especially you RR people. Your guy not too far behind.
You seem to know a lot for an outsider. Are you a disgruntled 91 parent? There are some of those. Which team are or were you a parent for?
3 years with Millon at Breakers and 91MD 2022 teams. Witnessed all of the stated behavior first hand, on multiple occasions. During practices and games. Getting messages from current players and parents, "I guess you heard it happened again"?. 2 more players quit during the middle of this season. That's 3 years in a row multiple parents said "forget the money" and quit. This LI incident is not his first ejection or public outburst during a game, or after a game. So yes, been there, seen it, moved on. Clearly, nothing has changed after 8 players quit or left the team at the end of last season.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Fake news, The Schwalje team tied Igloo and lost a one goal game and an overtime game to the 2nd Laxchucetts team this weekend. Got beat by a solid True Blue team, but that's the 4th time the two have played them and it's 2-2.
Huh, Schwalje did not play Igloo last weekend? Is this a highlight reel?
Schwalje played Laxachusetts Green=loss. True Blue=loss. Legacy B=win, Laxachusetts Green=loss, Express Reilly(c team)=barely win
That shows me that they stink !!!!!
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
you are joking, right. None of these team would even think of playing the teams United played last weekend. You should just take United off the list and replace them with teams that don't play real competition like Legacy, Outlaws or Hitmen. They all pretend to be an A/AA team but are more inline with this list.
United may play in the AA bracket but don't really belong there. They are a B+ team until they Marksberry steals more kids from other teams, simple as that!
Parents need to share info since tryouts are around the corner. Watch out for coaches like Dingleberry and his United team who hold tryouts which mean nothing, add 10 kids throughout the year, always looks to steal good players from other teams instead of training up the kids he has and cut deals with new kids to join his team while other parents pay full tuition. He screams at Refs on the sideline, even yelling at his Asst. Coaches on the sidelines. Dingleberry is everything that is wrong with travel lacrosse. [/quot
It's funny since Dingleberry stole players and has a monster roster and are still only a B+ team ! I have no clue why anyone would want to play for Dingleberry (old yeller)!
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Such an upstanding guy that he is a big supporter of holding back even when not needed for schooling- simply to look better for lacrosse like so many other “coaches”. He has never been a symbol of exemplary conduct on the field.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Fake news, The Schwalje team tied Igloo and lost a one goal game and an overtime game to the 2nd Laxchucetts team this weekend. Got beat by a solid True Blue team, but that's the 4th time the two have played them and it's 2-2.
Huh, Schwalje did not play Igloo last weekend? Is this a highlight reel?
Schwalje played Laxachusetts Green=loss. True Blue=loss. Legacy B=win, Laxachusetts Green=loss, Express Reilly(c team)=barely win
That shows me that they stink !!!!!
Thanks for your meaningless and false assessment. If stuns me how people either hate on a club or coach and use this as way to get out their feelings. Please tell us what team your son is on?
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Such an upstanding guy that he is a big supporter of holding back even when not needed for schooling- simply to look better for lacrosse like so many other “coaches”. He has never been a symbol of exemplary conduct on the field.
Man, you are a real jerk. The guy you are trashing is one of the nicest people I have ever met in lacrosse and he is a great, supportive coach. His son is a 2023 playing at 2022. You need to check your facts and go find something better to do, like teach your Outlaw kid some other words besides the word -. Then these issues might stop following your team around.
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Such an upstanding guy that he is a big supporter of holding back even when not needed for schooling- simply to look better for lacrosse like so many other “coaches”. He has never been a symbol of exemplary conduct on the field.
Completely disagree with your assessment of the team, parents or coach and I'm not affiliated with the RRs. Is the coach competitive yes, saucy yes, doing the right things for the kids and setting a good example, yes. No one in MD compares him to MM. LOL at your comments.
[quote=Anonymous]What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
Take any Express team out of the conversation other than Chan of course. all 3 other teams stink! The supposed 2nd team Schwaile is not even a B team they lose down in that bracket to below average teams. Chucks and O'Reilly are ever worse! Just Express money grabs to finance the top team !
Fake news, The Schwalje team tied Igloo and lost a one goal game and an overtime game to the 2nd Laxchucetts team this weekend. Got beat by a solid True Blue team, but that's the 4th time the two have played them and it's 2-2.
Huh, Schwalje did not play Igloo last weekend? Is this a highlight reel?
Schwalje played Laxachusetts Green=loss. True Blue=loss. Legacy B=win, Laxachusetts Green=loss, Express Reilly(c team)=barely win
That shows me that they stink !!!!!
This team may not be elite but they certainly don't deserve such harsh words. We are talking about a kids team, right?
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Such an upstanding guy that he is a big supporter of holding back even when not needed for schooling- simply to look better for lacrosse like so many other “coaches”. He has never been a symbol of exemplary conduct on the field.
Man, you are a real jerk. The guy you are trashing is one of the nicest people I have ever met in lacrosse and he is a great, supportive coach. His son is a 2023 playing at 2022. You need to check your facts and go find something better to do, like teach your Outlaw kid some other words besides the beep word. Then these issues might stop following your team around.
Guess you don’t know him quite so well. There is another son. Was 2020 and is now 2021. You are welcome to your opinion but others disagree.
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
I am not from MD or NY but nothing worse then LI parents and coaches
Wow some classic posts past few weeks but will jump in with both feet as I know many of the teams, coaches, etc involved. Going to hit a lot of topics in one post.
First I am from PA not NY or MD. Kid plays on a 2022 A, borderline AA, team. Beats some AA then in the same tournament gets smacked - inconsistent. But hey he likes the team.
1) RR - have played them many times never a problem. Both PA & MD teams.
2) Outlaws - parents are horrible and kids barely better. Saw them in a DE tournament last year and saw one D player call a Looney kid a curse word and spit on him. Then Outloaw parent freaked out when penallty called and started cussing in front of my 10 year old. Played against them once and thier entire team was calling our one Afircan American kid a racial slur the entire game.
3) MM - it is well known he is crazy on the sideline I have seen it and personally know multiple kids that have quit that team last 2-3 years.
4) MM - also wanted to cmment on one note earlier. That team could be better but MM pushes the entire offense through one kid wich makes the work for any D easy but to make it worse his kid is average not great. He isnt close to as good as HH, ML, SP, etc he is a good but not great player. 91MD is a good team but not great and that is largely due to MM IMO.
5) Regarding "holdbacks" I see alot about those on these forums. First its a personal choice I am against it, unless it is for school or maturity purpose, but its not my kid so I stay out of it. That being said everyone knows MD is the worst by FAR of the classic lacrosse states - if any thing LI kids play up in grade not down. Now the emerging states - especially the football ones like TX, OH, etc - are all holding back big time.
6) Last regarding trash parents no offense that is LI all the way. Its a joke amongst all non LI teams - ah man we gotta go to LI this weekend and get screamed at by XX parents again. MD might be whiny abouut contact - and you guys are - but nothing matches the wrath of LI fans if they are losing. Saw 91 2021 lose to TriState in box last year and you would have thought they had been robbed or just lost the super bowl. Honestly I love seeing LIE, Igloo and 91 parents after they lose. So many excuses and parents cussing.
*For the record I will say that PA - specifially Philly parents - is probably the 2nd worst behind LI
Trash me all you want for this post but I am just saying what you are all thinking.
How's the Maverick Showcase going? Any good?
Now that was a hysterical response. You’re from MD I’m assuming since you know so much about the coaches. Those coaches would Never pull a player. It seemed like they actually condoned the RR behavior. Especially the short heavy set coach. Obnoxious and deplorable behavior by players coaches and parents on the RR side.
Uh, that short heavy set coach is probably Mark Dixon who is an NCAA ref and ESPN/Big Ten announcer. I really doubt he would do anything to jeopardize either of his positions by condoning or encouraging anything but exemplary conduct by his players.
Such an upstanding guy that he is a big supporter of holding back even when not needed for schooling- simply to look better for lacrosse like so many other “coaches”. He has never been a symbol of exemplary conduct on the field.
Man, you are a real jerk. The guy you are trashing is one of the nicest people I have ever met in lacrosse and he is a great, supportive coach. His son is a 2023 playing at 2022. You need to check your facts and go find something better to do, like teach your Outlaw kid some other words besides the word beep. Then these issues might stop following your team around.
Guess you don’t know him quite so well. There is another son. Was 2020 and is now 2021. You are welcome to your opinion but others disagree.
So one kid plays up and one kid plays down and you know situational info so well that you can come onto a public forum and lay judgment? Who appointment you to the moral authority?
Wow some classic posts past few weeks but will jump in with both feet as I know many of the teams, coaches, etc involved. Going to hit a lot of topics in one post.
First I am from PA not NY or MD. Kid plays on a 2022 A, borderline AA, team. Beats some AA then in the same tournament gets smacked - inconsistent. But hey he likes the team.
1) RR - have played them many times never a problem. Both PA & MD teams.
2) Outlaws - parents are horrible and kids barely better. Saw them in a DE tournament last year and saw one D player call a Looney kid a - and spit on him. Then Outloaw parent freaked out when penallty called and started cussing in front of my 10 year old. Played against them once and thier entire team was calling our one Afircan American kid a racial slur the entire game.
3) MM - it is well known he is crazy on the sideline I have seen it and personally know multiple kids that have quit that team last 2-3 years.
4) MM - also wanted to cmment on one note earlier. That team could be better but MM pushes the entire offense through one kid wich makes the work for any D easy but to make it worse his kid is average not great. He isnt close to as good as HH, ML, SP, etc he is a good but not great player. 91MD is a good team but not great and that is largely due to MM IMO.
5) Regarding "holdbacks" I see alot about those on these forums. First its a personal choice I am against it, unless it is for school or maturity purpose, but its not my kid so I stay out of it. That being said everyone knows MD is the worst by FAR of the classic lacrosse states - if any thing LI kids play up in grade not down. Now the emerging states - especially the football ones like TX, OH, etc - are all holding back big time.
6) Last regarding trash parents no offense that is LI all the way. Its a joke amongst all non LI teams - ah man we gotta go to LI this weekend and get screamed at by XX parents again. MD might be whiny abouut contact - and you guys are - but nothing matches the wrath of LI fans if they are losing. Saw 91 2021 lose to TriState in box last year and you would have thought they had been robbed or just lost the super bowl. Honestly I love seeing LIE, Igloo and 91 parents after they lose. So many excuses and parents cussing.
*For the record I will say that PA - specifially Philly parents - is probably the 2nd worst behind LI
Trash me all you want for this post but I am just saying what you are all thinking.
AMEN! On all points.
What are the best 5 "B" teams on Long Island? Forget that they should AA or A or whatever.....who are the best 5 2nd teams on LI? I would think United and Igloo are up there....
Igloo
Schwalje
United
O'Reilly
1st teams that are on the same level are True Blue, Hitmen, Empire A and Force
If your son is not playing on one of the elite teams, these are the teams to play for imho
Schwalje won 2 of 5 games in the 'B' division this weekend!
United won 2 of 5 games in the "A" division this weekend and played top tier teams!
you are joking, right. None of these team would even think of playing the teams United played last weekend. You should just take United off the list and replace them with teams that don't play real competition like Legacy, Outlaws or Hitmen. They all pretend to be an A/AA team but are more inline with this list.
United, seems to be the best team online. Folks seem to spend time here telling everyone they are an A team. Say it and write it enough and its true. I know it's likely the team is on par with True Blue, Force, Express or Hitmen. You can't just enter the top bracket and say your an A team and polish up a loss to Smash.
five best b teams and you have o reilly and igloo? we played them this weekend....o reillys team managed 0 shots and we beat them 11 - 0 .. you gotta be kidding me
LIE has the craziest parent hands down....rest of group is par for the course
The second igloo team should not be on this list. They can compete with the top teams at 2022. Might not win but that’s not what it’s all about. They would kill every other team on this list including United.
five best b teams and you have o reilly and igloo? we played them this weekend....o reillys team managed 0 shots and we beat them 11 - 0 .. you gotta be kidding me
We... what was your jersey #? Igloo is the best 2nd team or best at this level, don't get Uniteditis and think you'll be infected by being considered a B team. It means nothing. I would say Igloo is in the group with True Blue, Hitmen, Schwalje, etc. Because you can't go off one game - that's like saying Express doesn't belong because they got beat 6-1 by True Blue this past weekend. However, they have played 4 times this season and the record is 2-2 with one True Blue win going to a braveheart. Both very, very good teams. And you must remember you ahem Aspen Extreme tied Schwalje 2-2. But that's one game and still I would consider Igloo the best of the rest.
Wow some classic posts past few weeks but will jump in with both feet as I know many of the teams, coaches, etc involved. Going to hit a lot of topics in one post.
First I am from PA not NY or MD. Kid plays on a 2022 A, borderline AA, team. Beats some AA then in the same tournament gets smacked - inconsistent. But hey he likes the team.
1) Regarding "holdbacks" I see alot about those on these forums. First its a personal choice I am against it, unless it is for school or maturity purpose, but its not my kid so I stay out of it. That being said everyone knows MD is the worst by FAR of the classic lacrosse states - if any thing LI kids play up in grade not down. Now the emerging states - especially the football ones like TX, OH, etc - are all holding back big time.
Trash me all you want for this post but I am just saying what you are all thinking.
Regarding holdbacks, the people that are "against" them mostly have their opinions misstated by others. Personally, I don't care if someone holds back their kid for any, or no, reason. I fully understand that many lacrosse families are looking for their kids to go to prep schools (as opposed to public high schools) where it is normal for a kid to be age 16-20 for their four years. I am totally fine with this. It has no effect on me or anyone else. But (and this is the rub), when playing youth lacrosse, an age based system should be used, and everyone should just play their age - like nearly every other youth sport. If a kid is born in June 2004 he should be playing against kids born in 2004 (or born on or between Sept 1 2003 to August 31 2004). This same kid should not be playing against kids born, say, November 2002 just because they both happen to have just completed the 8th grade, or worse still, both "anticipate" graduating in 2022.
100% agreed. There is no logical argument against that...only defensive.
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This team may not be elite but they certainly don't deserve such harsh words. We
are talking about a kids team, right?[/quote]
https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/forums/2/1/botc-main-forum.htmlWe are NOT talking about any particular child. We are talking about the ARROGANT parents that think my son plays on Express and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread! Nice to see Express parents needing to be humbled !
All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
yes total joke showtime should be ashamed of some of those names on that roster, missed some really talented players
This team may not be elite but they certainly don't deserve such harsh words. We
are talking about a kids team, right?[/quote]
https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/forums/2/1/botc-main-forum.htmlWe are NOT talking about any particular child. We are talking about the ARROGANT parents that think my son plays on Express and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread! Nice to see Express parents needing to be humbled ![/quote]
Finally the truth... the Express wronged you in some way and this is therapy. What club is your son on now? Probably his 3 or 4th judging by your responses of denial.
All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
I come on here and always take everything with a grain of salt! All the talk about the Outlaws organization, fans and players are absolutely 1000% true. They are classless and down right obnoxious! They are every single negative stereotype about travel lacrosse on LI! I could only imagine how they would act if their teams were actually good!
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
Weren't the best players in the country at Under Armour this weekend?
Which laxachusetts team did they really play??? They swap players constantly. Green , blue black ???
And by the way schwalje beat laxachusetts and true blue this year. Just not in the the tournament you are talking about. So who really cares ? These are “b” teams . Get over it . It’s laughable how people or should I say “adults” spend time talking bad about 13 old children.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
Weren't the best players in the country at Under Armour this weekend?
The best players that want to pay the travel and entry fees were there. Good players, but still a money grab.
Does anyone know what’s going on with the warrior all American games?
Are they still having it? I know tryout numbers were very low.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
Weren't the best players in the country at Under Armour this weekend?
The best players that want to pay the travel and entry fees were there. Good players, but still a money grab.
$190 for 3 tryout days and 6 games in front of every D1 Coach with great competition...
And by the way schwalje beat laxachusetts and true blue this year. Just not in the the tournament you are talking about. So who really cares ? These are “b” teams . Get over it . It’s laughable how people or should I say “adults” spend time talking bad about 13 old children.
Yeah, really. Call them A, B, C. The team is really playing well, so give them what ever label you want.
Thank you! We love you too!
This team may not be elite but they certainly don't deserve such harsh words. We are talking about a kids team, right?
We are NOT talking about any particular child. We are talking about the ARROGANT parents that think my son plays on Express and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread! Nice to see Express parents needing to be humbled ![/quote]
Finally the truth... the Express wronged you in some way and this is therapy. What club is your son on now? Probably his 3 or 4th judging by your responses of denial. [/quote]
My kid is on a team that would flat out take the Swailje team any day!
This team may not be elite but they certainly don't deserve such harsh words. We are talking about a kids team, right?
We are NOT talking about any particular child. We are talking about the ARROGANT parents that think my son plays on Express and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread! Nice to see Express parents needing to be humbled !
Finally the truth... the Express wronged you in some way and this is therapy. What club is your son on now? Probably his 3 or 4th judging by your responses of denial. [/quote]
My kid is on a team that would flat out take the Swailje team any day! [/quote]
Yeah, sure. What club has the unfortunate honor of having you as a client? Queue crickets. Another person that proves registered posting was good.
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
I guess we will have to see in another year or 2
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
This is laughable. Politics definitely in play with the selection of “the best attackman in the country, by far”. Clearly, you’re biased and blind.
Best attackman in the country! Why is he reclassing?
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
[quote=Anonymous]All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
This is laughable. Politics definitely in play with the selection of “the best attackman in the country, by far”. Clearly, you’re biased and blind.
Looks like the original post was revised;
"I will go a step further. Not only one of the best...THE BEST !!! Bar none! Future D1 Hall of Fame attackman like his father. Have any of you seen who runs the attack for this team Him!! Who gets the ball on every offensive series , Him !! Who do all the players pass the ball to, Him !!
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!"
By coach's design the ball goes to that attackman, or starts with him on almost every play. Other players are scared to make a mistake because they will get reamed and benched if the ball does not touch the net when they take shots that do not follow that concept. Anyone who has ever watched a 91MD game has seen this happen. 6 points a game average the last couple YEARS! The defense on Team91MD is MVP of every game won, or every game not lost by 10 points this season. Without their 3 best defenders, they might not have a win against ANY top 15 opponents this season. "The process" is just a big black hole for fun and player development. "The process" is an argument to continue self-promotion.
Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
Well... the way it's unfolded is interesting. What about now
Chaney
Schawle
Chucks
O’Rielly
Well #4 on your rankings won 7-0 over #3 today and then went on to win the Championship. That's 3 winning tourneys in a row. This guy just develops players and turns his teams in competitive teams by the summer, every year!
That was suppose to be the order.....but would have to agree O'Rielly did a good job with them. Good coach my sons have done training with him in the past. have they played Schawle yet? Chan's team not to hot this year either.
You Express parents are all delusional as usual.The only good team is the Chan team ! Others are a joke ! Schwalie team dropped to the B at Laxfest and still got smoked !
Fake news from a hater. Schwalje is a really good team and O'Reilly is solid.
Invitational Championship in Maryland this weekend should be a good one!
Funny post, Just prepping for high school and even top collegiate lacrosse. HCs there regularly run "daddy ball" offenses whose first objective is not to win (its a like to but not a must have objective) but to highlight F&F. If you don't see that dynamic then you're as naive as they come. Most admins are focused on the revenue sports (the ones alums care about in high school and the ones that generate real revenue in college) and don't care about how the sausage is made as long as they don't lose too much and don't embarrass the athletic department.
Invitational Championship in Maryland this weekend should be a good one!
Predictions?
I'm thinking all Long Island Final with Smash over Express.
Invitational Championship in Maryland this weekend should be a good one!
Predictions?
I'm thinking all Long Island Final with Smash over Express.
Who cares the top teams from Maryland are not there.
Invitational Championship in Maryland this weekend should be a good one!
Predictions?
I'm thinking all Long Island Final with Smash over Express.
If no Crabs there...Doesnt count
Lol...NOT even close!! Daddy’s name is the only thing he has going for him!
Yep!! MM didn’t want to look bad and lose to the best Maryland teams...Hawks, RoughRiders, FCA...!!!
Pretty sure the Crabs lost to FCA in their own tournament!
Yep!! MM didn’t want to look bad and lose to the best Maryland teams...Hawks, RoughRiders, FCA...!!!
Paying Millon the team dues he wants for his "boutique" events is almost like condoning his behavior. That is why several local teams chose to avoid his tourney this year.
All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
This is laughable. Politics definitely in play with the selection of “the best attackman in the country, by far”. Clearly, you’re biased and blind.
Looks like the original post was revised;
"I will go a step further. Not only one of the best...THE BEST !!! Bar none! Future D1 Hall of Fame attackman like his father. Have any of you seen who runs the attack for this team Him!! Who gets the ball on every offensive series , Him !! Who do all the players pass the ball to, Him !!
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!"
By coach's design the ball goes to that attackman, or starts with him on almost every play. Other players are scared to make a mistake because they will get reamed and benched if the ball does not touch the net when they take shots that do not follow that concept. Anyone who has ever watched a 91MD game has seen this happen. 6 points a game average the last couple YEARS! The defense on Team91MD is MVP of every game won, or every game not lost by 10 points this season. Without their 3 best defenders, they might not have a win against ANY top 15 opponents this season. "The process" is just a big black hole for fun and player development. "The process" is an argument to continue self-promotion.
Jealously is not a good trait.
Invitational Championship in Maryland this weekend should be a good one!
Predictions?
I'm thinking all Long Island Final with Smash over Express.
If no Crabs there...Doesnt count
Didn't Crabs lose to Smash 14-5 at NLF? What changed to think that they would be relevant?
All stars announced at Showtime. Complete sham. From the list you can tell a lot of phone calls were made *wink wink*
will have an extra year to make up for any All-Star positions he was spotted this year. Must be struggling playing on age?
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!
This is laughable. Politics definitely in play with the selection of “the best attackman in the country, by far”. Clearly, you’re biased and blind.
Looks like the original post was revised;
"I will go a step further. Not only one of the best...THE BEST !!! Bar none! Future D1 Hall of Fame attackman like his father. Have any of you seen who runs the attack for this team Him!! Who gets the ball on every offensive series , Him !! Who do all the players pass the ball to, Him !!
There is a reason for all this,, Best Attackman in country by far!!"
By coach's design the ball goes to that attackman, or starts with him on almost every play. Other players are scared to make a mistake because they will get reamed and benched if the ball does not touch the net when they take shots that do not follow that concept. Anyone who has ever watched a 91MD game has seen this happen. 6 points a game average the last couple YEARS! The defense on Team91MD is MVP of every game won, or every game not lost by 10 points this season. Without their 3 best defenders, they might not have a win against ANY top 15 opponents this season. "The process" is just a big black hole for fun and player development. "The process" is an argument to continue self-promotion.
Jealously is not a good trait.
Those comments were a public service announcement.
Lol...NOT even close!! Daddy’s name is the only thing he has going for him!
You can bet at least one of his "All-Tourney" attackman was selected when the Invitational "Championship" was just a twinkle in his eye.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hi y'all what's the order of Express teams now from best on down?
1) Express chanachuck
2)?
3)?
4)?
You Express parents are all delusional as usual.The only good team is the Chan team ! Others are a joke ! Schwalie team dropped to the B at Laxfest and still got smoked !
Fake news from a hater. Schwalje is a really good team and O'Reilly is solid.
You can't rank either of these teams good or solid. Not bottom of the barrel B but average at best.
Unless Your son makes Chan's team (he will ask you to join), look else where.
Why aren't Annapolis Hawks in this tournament?
Naptown tournament Monday Tuesday Wednesday. Hawks RoughRiders Dukes Denver elite legacy Richmond Hawks plus many more solid field.
The fact they also beat express at same tournament.
I do think that express and smash have an easy schedule. Won’t be tested first day.
The fact they also beat express at same tournament.
I do think that express and smash have an easy schedule. Won’t be tested first day.
Never really tested. Express lost to PT and never met up with Smash. But Smash wins the week in convincing fashion. They sit atop the group for this week. Two weeks to NLF and that will crown the summer champs.
United is a now start up stand alone club now.
United is a now start up stand alone club now.
Really?
United is a now start up stand alone club now.
Really?
Yup. Tryouts for teams 2022-2027. So there is rebels, Rebels and United as new clubs this season.
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
Why is it just 2 teams for united or is it 2022 thru 2027 ??
Who is the best team this summer:
Here are the winners of the top tournaments so far:
NLF Super Series - T91 LI
North American Lax Summer Invitational - LI Express
Crabfeast - MD Roughriders
Millon Championship - T91 LI
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ???
Whats United ?? This Club Lax really getting washed down and for what price ?? Anyone know Club tryouts and prices besides No , L.i ripp off ?? Carolinas Maryland FL prices ??
My son plays for a top tier club in MD. 2200 includes fall tournaments and practices, winter indoor practice and agility sessions with a sports performance company, 2 spring leagues, 4 summer tournaments and practice 2 to 3 times per week spring-summer. Uniform package includes helmet, sweats, couple T-shirt’s and uniforms for games and practice.
I come on here and always take everything with a grain of salt! All the talk about the Outlaws organization, fans and players are absolutely 1000% true. They are classless and down right obnoxious! They are every single negative stereotype about travel lacrosse on LI! I could only imagine how they would act if their teams were actually good!
THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED OUTLAWS. LOL
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
JM or Marksberry or Dingleberry, or whatever you want to call the United coach is breaking off from 91 and forming his own club team. The only thing that team had going for it was being part of 9D1, but now that they are a separate organization, who would join? Dingleberry was a D3 player from Ithaca coaching at Farmingdale. Without 9D1, he has no connections.
Dingleberry keeps trying to play Smash, but we don't want to play them because they are no competition. Smash played United one time and United was up during the first 2 or 3 minutes, but then Smash demolished them 12-3. Since it was a 9D1 tourney, 9D1 was kind and posted a final score of 9-3 on tourney machine.
Parents are real unhappy on that team. Too many kids on that team.Total money grab. Dingleberry added an ex-Smash kid right before playing Smash. Yes, you heard that right. Dingleberry added so many kids during the year and added 2 more kids in June hoping to find a kid to make the team better to beat Smash. I feel sorry for the United parents paid and practiced together for 10 months and Dingleberry added 2 kids at the very end who didn't pay, but got to play the last 1.5 months. I am sure the kids who lost their starting spots are really happy about that. Parents say they have 30 man roster.
Now that Dingleberry is breaking off and forming his own team, you can bet that he will take more than 30 to make $$. Money now goes in his pocket since he owns his own team. Stay away from coaches who keep huge rosters, add kids throughout the year and run around thinking they are AA instead of solid B+ team. United should have competed in more mid level tournaments, conditioned their boys to win at that level and then considered AA tournaments instead of entering all AA teams at tournaments and losing so badly this year.
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
JM or Marksberry or Dingleberry, or whatever you want to call the United coach is breaking off from 91 and forming his own club team. The only thing that team had going for it was being part of 9D1, but now that they are a separate organization, who would join? Dingleberry was a D3 player from Ithaca coaching at Farmingdale. Without 9D1, he has no connections.
Dingleberry keeps trying to play Smash, but we don't want to play them because they are no competition. Smash played United one time and United was up during the first 2 or 3 minutes, but then Smash demolished them 12-3. Since it was a 9D1 tourney, 9D1 was kind and posted a final score of 9-3 on tourney machine.
Parents are real unhappy on that team. Too many kids on that team.Total money grab. Dingleberry added an ex-Smash kid right before playing Smash. Yes, you heard that right. Dingleberry added so many kids during the year and added 2 more kids in June hoping to find a kid to make the team better to beat Smash. I feel sorry for the United parents paid and practiced together for 10 months and Dingleberry added 2 kids at the very end who didn't pay, but got to play the last 1.5 months. I am sure the kids who lost their starting spots are really happy about that. Parents say they have 30 man roster.
Now that Dingleberry is breaking off and forming his own team, you can bet that he will take more than 30 to make $$. Money now goes in his pocket since he owns his own team. Stay away from coaches who keep huge rosters, add kids throughout the year and run around thinking they are AA instead of solid B+ team. United should have competed in more mid level tournaments, conditioned their boys to win at that level and then considered AA tournaments instead of entering all AA teams at tournaments and losing so badly this year.
Based on your rants, you are obviously a parent or a coach on Smash with an axe to grind with Josh. "we don't want to play"? You really seem to be so caught living vicariously through your son's team that you don't realize how ridiculous your posts seem. Are there late additions of players that had nowhere else to play? Yes... They worked hard in practices to prove themselves. Are there kids on the team that sit? Yes.... and most of their parents were given the option to stay or move on. They chose to stay and watch their sons develop. Whether he played D3 or D1 is irrelevant to his ability to coach... So that point makes no sense. If you were well informed, you would also know that while he is separating from 91, he still has a relationship and the full support of those that also support 91. Adding kids had nothing to do with beating Smash. If United was so unworthy of playing Smash, why is it that only in that game did Jr. show up? Do you think the boys that played hard and got them to the championships deserved to sit so that he could play in just that one game against an "unworthy" team? Yes, I am a parent of a son that plays for Josh, and whichever direction he chooses, the majority of our team will follow. Not because we have to, or to win tournaments, but because he is a great coach and a great mentor for our sons. You should stop... take a breath... and just enjoy watching your son play lacrosse. It is a short period of time that you will have to enjoy it. Maybe reflect on how lucky you are that you get to experience this with your son and not be so disgustingly negative. If you really have an issue with Josh, you should "man" (or woman) up and call him. I have a sneaking suspicion you already have is number... I am sure he would be happy to hear from you.
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
JM or Marksberry or Dingleberry, or whatever you want to call the United coach is breaking off from 91 and forming his own club team. The only thing that team had going for it was being part of 9D1, but now that they are a separate organization, who would join? Dingleberry was a D3 player from Ithaca coaching at Farmingdale. Without 9D1, he has no connections.
Dingleberry keeps trying to play Smash, but we don't want to play them because they are no competition. Smash played United one time and United was up during the first 2 or 3 minutes, but then Smash demolished them 12-3. Since it was a 9D1 tourney, 9D1 was kind and posted a final score of 9-3 on tourney machine.
Parents are real unhappy on that team. Too many kids on that team.Total money grab. Dingleberry added an ex-Smash kid right before playing Smash. Yes, you heard that right. Dingleberry added so many kids during the year and added 2 more kids in June hoping to find a kid to make the team better to beat Smash. I feel sorry for the United parents paid and practiced together for 10 months and Dingleberry added 2 kids at the very end who didn't pay, but got to play the last 1.5 months. I am sure the kids who lost their starting spots are really happy about that. Parents say they have 30 man roster.
Now that Dingleberry is breaking off and forming his own team, you can bet that he will take more than 30 to make $$. Money now goes in his pocket since he owns his own team. Stay away from coaches who keep huge rosters, add kids throughout the year and run around thinking they are AA instead of solid B+ team. United should have competed in more mid level tournaments, conditioned their boys to win at that level and then considered AA tournaments instead of entering all AA teams at tournaments and losing so badly this year.
When you say “we” don’t want to play them, are we now to assume that you are a smash parent? If that is the case, I don’t know what you are proud of. Your team is winning because of one kid. Everyone knows who he is. Smash was nothing for the last couple years and now all of a sudden they’re winning everything because one kid is selfish and scores all the goals. I wonder how the rest of the parents on the team feel – especially the parents of the other attackmen. You can all sit around and lie and say we don’t care because we know you all just want to win and it doesn’t matter how. Just keep drinking the orange Kool-Aid-and let’s not forget that he was reclassified. Hope you’re proud of yourselves.
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
JM or Marksberry or Dingleberry, or whatever you want to call the United coach is breaking off from 91 and forming his own club team. The only thing that team had going for it was being part of 9D1, but now that they are a separate organization, who would join? Dingleberry was a D3 player from Ithaca coaching at Farmingdale. Without 9D1, he has no connections.
Dingleberry keeps trying to play Smash, but we don't want to play them because they are no competition. Smash played United one time and United was up during the first 2 or 3 minutes, but then Smash demolished them 12-3. Since it was a 9D1 tourney, 9D1 was kind and posted a final score of 9-3 on tourney machine.
Parents are real unhappy on that team. Too many kids on that team.Total money grab. Dingleberry added an ex-Smash kid right before playing Smash. Yes, you heard that right. Dingleberry added so many kids during the year and added 2 more kids in June hoping to find a kid to make the team better to beat Smash. I feel sorry for the United parents paid and practiced together for 10 months and Dingleberry added 2 kids at the very end who didn't pay, but got to play the last 1.5 months. I am sure the kids who lost their starting spots are really happy about that. Parents say they have 30 man roster.
Now that Dingleberry is breaking off and forming his own team, you can bet that he will take more than 30 to make $$. Money now goes in his pocket since he owns his own team. Stay away from coaches who keep huge rosters, add kids throughout the year and run around thinking they are AA instead of solid B+ team. United should have competed in more mid level tournaments, conditioned their boys to win at that level and then considered AA tournaments instead of entering all AA teams at tournaments and losing so badly this year.
Based on your rants, you are obviously a parent or a coach on Smash with an axe to grind with Josh. "we don't want to play"? You really seem to be so caught living vicariously through your son's team that you don't realize how ridiculous your posts seem. Are there late additions of players that had nowhere else to play? Yes... They worked hard in practices to prove themselves. Are there kids on the team that sit? Yes.... and most of their parents were given the option to stay or move on. They chose to stay and watch their sons develop. Whether he played D3 or D1 is irrelevant to his ability to coach... So that point makes no sense. If you were well informed, you would also know that while he is separating from 91, he still has a relationship and the full support of those that also support 91. Adding kids had nothing to do with beating Smash. If United was so unworthy of playing Smash, why is it that only in that game did Jr. show up? Do you think the boys that played hard and got them to the championships deserved to sit so that he could play in just that one game against an "unworthy" team? Yes, I am a parent of a son that plays for Josh, and whichever direction he chooses, the majority of our team will follow. Not because we have to, or to win tournaments, but because he is a great coach and a great mentor for our sons. You should stop... take a breath... and just enjoy watching your son play lacrosse. It is a short period of time that you will have to enjoy it. Maybe reflect on how lucky you are that you get to experience this with your son and not be so disgustingly negative. If you really have an issue with Josh, you should "man" (or woman) up and call him. I have a sneaking suspicion you already have is number... I am sure he would be happy to hear from you.
No one wants to pay $3,500+ tuition and additional money all year long to watch other kids play. Josh told those kids if they want, they could leave, but he did not offer to refund anyone's money. He took their money, then added a bunch of kids. He was not capable of training his kids to be better, so he picked up other kids and added them for free! That's a fact. I am not bashing Josh, just letting people know what they are in for if they join Dingleberry's United.
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
Dingle/Marksberry and his United crew are writing all these posts how good United is because tryouts are around the corner. It stinks to lose so much and try to fool others about how good you are!.They won one small tournament all year and you don't see them at any real tournament other than Tristar, where they lost all 3 games in regular play and won 2 consolation bracket games to bad teams. Don't be fooled. Save your $3-4k and join a team whose coach is honorable and will not keep adding. Ask Dingle/Marksberry to offer a 100% refund in writing if he adds more than 2 kids after practice or if he keeps more than 25 kids on his roster. He will not do it.
The whole player added thing and guest player stuff I'll never understand. BIg deal, "we stay because the practice is great" I don't know who is to blame the parents who enable it or the coaches who just do it. And great answer, don't like you can leave? If that's true, it is so sad. Way to teach life lessons and mold young men.
Public service announcement. If any of you had a son that didn't play in game this year because the coach didn't put him for in for even one shift and you said nothing, well.... I know how would reacted. But maybe I am wrong and just don't understand it. Would love to hear a different perspective.
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
Not during recent tournaments, Dad. Orange kool aid must taste really good. Keep telling yourself that
United will be a B team with all the same kids going there from 91’s B team. JM will be a failure with this venture of his.
JM or Marksberry or Dingleberry, or whatever you want to call the United coach is breaking off from 91 and forming his own club team. The only thing that team had going for it was being part of 9D1, but now that they are a separate organization, who would join? Dingleberry was a D3 player from Ithaca coaching at Farmingdale. Without 9D1, he has no connections.
Dingleberry keeps trying to play Smash, but we don't want to play them because they are no competition. Smash played United one time and United was up during the first 2 or 3 minutes, but then Smash demolished them 12-3. Since it was a 9D1 tourney, 9D1 was kind and posted a final score of 9-3 on tourney machine.
Parents are real unhappy on that team. Too many kids on that team.Total money grab. Dingleberry added an ex-Smash kid right before playing Smash. Yes, you heard that right. Dingleberry added so many kids during the year and added 2 more kids in June hoping to find a kid to make the team better to beat Smash. I feel sorry for the United parents paid and practiced together for 10 months and Dingleberry added 2 kids at the very end who didn't pay, but got to play the last 1.5 months. I am sure the kids who lost their starting spots are really happy about that. Parents say they have 30 man roster.
Now that Dingleberry is breaking off and forming his own team, you can bet that he will take more than 30 to make $$. Money now goes in his pocket since he owns his own team. Stay away from coaches who keep huge rosters, add kids throughout the year and run around thinking they are AA instead of solid B+ team. United should have competed in more mid level tournaments, conditioned their boys to win at that level and then considered AA tournaments instead of entering all AA teams at tournaments and losing so badly this year.
When you say “we” don’t want to play them, are we now to assume that you are a smash parent? If that is the case, I don’t know what you are proud of. Your team is winning because of one kid. Everyone knows who he is. Smash was nothing for the last couple years and now all of a sudden they’re winning everything because one kid is selfish and scores all the goals. I wonder how the rest of the parents on the team feel – especially the parents of the other attackmen. You can all sit around and lie and say we don’t care because we know you all just want to win and it doesn’t matter how. Just keep drinking the orange Kool-Aid-and let’s not forget that he was reclassified. Hope you’re proud of yourselves.
Igloo parent lololol after watching that championship game I understand you being upset Kinda glad we got knocked out early tht was rough to watch Think Jr had most of the goals It’s orange look aid or Blue Gatorade igloo parent.
Dingle/Marksberry and his United crew are writing all these posts how good United is because tryouts are around the corner. It stinks to lose so much and try to fool others about how good you are!.They won one small tournament all year and you don't see them at any real tournament other than Tristar, where they lost all 3 games in regular play and won 2 consolation bracket games to bad teams. Don't be fooled. Save your $3-4k and join a team whose coach is honorable and will not keep adding. Ask Dingle/Marksberry to offer a 100% refund in writing if he adds more than 2 kids after practice or if he keeps more than 25 kids on his roster. He will not do it.
Is there a club or a coach at this age level this is honest or honorable?
Ouside of the top teams, it does seem to be a pure money grab!
Find me team that makes cuts. Find me a coach who tells a parent that their kid should be able to catch and throw going into 9th grade!
This behavior coupled with compliant parents will erode the soul
of this great sport.
Lets get one thing straight. Smash parents could care less about JM. He coaches a great bunch of kids. Many of the Smash and United boys are great friends.
As for the subject of his coaching abilities:
First and foremost, there is nobody in the lax world that spews more lies and garbage. For those of you that have crossed paths with him you know all too well. If you're a parent on that team and cannot admit that then you have been dragged into the cult.
Really good offensive coach, I will give him that. His philosophy unfortunately is not about the kids, it's for his own ego. If your son plays defense and you buy into his garbage you should sign your kid up for baseball because you too have no clue.
What's his obsession with Smash?????
Just go out and coach your kids to get better over the course of the year. Travel lacrosse is not about winning.
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
This is fake news - 2022 Smash wasnt winning any good tournaments before JR and the new players this year. And even when they were winning he usually played with them and the 2023 Spallinas woudl be playing up.
Played against and beat them before they this year BOOM wiped us out.
The 2022's were a low end AA or high end A. This year they are top 3 in the country - JR has a lot to do with that.
Top 3 in the country!!!! Top 10 in Maryland maybe.
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
91 did not win one tournament last year. This year they added some new players and they got better. With JR they look unbeatable. Kid is unbelievable talent but lets be honest, he is a complete ball hog when he plays at this level. He had 9 goals against us and wouldn't come out of the game when asked by the coach. I think everyone that watched that game was upset, us for letting one kid beat us like that and them for knowing he was the reason they beat us.
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
91 did not win one tournament last year. This year they added some new players and they got better. With JR they look unbeatable. Kid is unbelievable talent but lets be honest, he is a complete ball hog when he plays at this level. He had 9 goals against us and wouldn't come out of the game when asked by the coach. I think everyone that watched that game was upset, us for letting one kid beat us like that and them for knowing he was the reason they beat us.
NEWS FLASH: 91 Smash has Always been a “top team” in LI and the country. JR is an incredible talent, and his HS stats are impressive. He only makes the team that much stronger, and top 3 in country is accurate imho.
As a lover of the game, I hope his development continues in this “stat-direction”.
He’s fun to watch when he shares the rock, but I can feel the “selfish/look at me” sentiment.
Lets get one thing straight. Smash parents could care less about JM. He coaches a great bunch of kids. Many of the Smash and United boys are great friends.
As for the subject of his coaching abilities:
First and foremost, there is nobody in the lax world that spews more lies and garbage. For those of you that have crossed paths with him you know all too well. If you're a parent on that team and cannot admit that then you have been dragged into the cult.
Really good offensive coach, I will give him that. His philosophy unfortunately is not about the kids, it's for his own ego. If your son plays defense and you buy into his garbage you should sign your kid up for baseball because you too have no clue.
What's his obsession with Smash?????
Just go out and coach your kids to get better over the course of the year. Travel lacrosse is not about winning.
Spot on assessment. He's full of ego and you can't believe a word he says. Don't drink that (Marks)berry Koolaid
You think Smash was nothing before JR? Your wrong. Fake news. Smash was winning since 3rd grade, everyone in 2022 knows that. JR joined Smash just this year. Read his Newsday stats for high school, he had 39 goals and 45 assists. He is not a ball hog at any level of play, he always gets more assists than goals for his high school and same for Smash.
91 did not win one tournament last year. This year they added some new players and they got better. With JR they look unbeatable. Kid is unbelievable talent but lets be honest, he is a complete ball hog when he plays at this level. He had 9 goals against us and wouldn't come out of the game when asked by the coach. I think everyone that watched that game was upset, us for letting one kid beat us like that and them for knowing he was the reason they beat us.
NEWS FLASH: 91 Smash has Always been a “top team” in LI and the country. JR is an incredible talent, and his HS stats are impressive. He only makes the team that much stronger, and top 3 in country is accurate imho.
As a lover of the game, I hope his development continues in this “stat-direction”.
He’s fun to watch when he shares the rock, but I can feel the “selfish/look at me” sentiment.
NEWS FLASH 2014! Smash has jumped the shark in terms of dominance in this age group. Still a great team, just not #1.
Judging from the scores of the games I would say that Smash won because of defense, not because of one player. Giving up an average of 3 goals a game over 6 games is pretty impressive. Not sure attack had a whole lot to do with that. Also heard they beat PT without winning one face-off. I'd say the defense should get a ton of credit for their recent success.
Outlaws 7-6 over DC express today
Doesn't matter, they are all going to the Rebels anyway!
Great, loser. Outlaws sucked all year. Weak B team.
So the Igloo parent thinks JR is the only reason they lost. That’s hilarious. Smash by far a better team all around. Keep playing that zone defense and be the laughingstock of the age group. Didn’t everyone get all over JM for running the same defense with United? Igloo couldn’t do a thing against Smash D.
Running a zone is an admission that you’re not as good as the team you’re playing.
Nothing wrong with losing a game. Smash team is really good, be a big boy and give credit when credit is due.
So the Igloo parent thinks JR is the only reason they lost. That’s hilarious. Smash by far a better team all around. Keep playing that zone defense and be the laughingstock of the age group. Didn’t everyone get all over JM for running the same defense with United? Igloo couldn’t do a thing against Smash D.
Running a zone is an admission that you’re not as good as the team you’re playing.
Nothing wrong with losing a game. Smash team is really good, be a big boy and give credit when credit is due.
Please...smash is a good D but anyone who watched that game saw that jr either scored or assisted every goal in that game. I had him with at least 8 of the goals It was 1-0’igloo before JR scored the next 4. It’s obvious good D with the best player in the grade
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
Igloo averaged 8 goals per game going into the finals, They scored 2 goals in the championship. I'd say the game was won because of defense, not because of one player.
Smash has one of the weaker defenses out there. Old empire player and that’s about it. But I guess when you don’t have to play much defense because of JR(should be rising junior) it makes your defense look good.
They held PT to 3 goals in the semis without winning one face-off. Care to explain what he attack had to do with that?
This defenseman’s mommy is very upset about saying her baby boy and his d-mates are a little overrated. It’s ok. We know smash has the best D. Wink wink.
Smash has one of the weaker defenses out there. Old empire player and that’s about it. But I guess when you don’t have to play much defense because of JR(should be rising junior) it makes your defense look good.
Couple things smash D is good not great Goalie play is average and that’s part of defense. Jr is NOT a rising junior he plays on the 2020 team and always has played up I will tell you I know that as a FACT as my older boy was around that team plenty and I know the boy. This age is funny yes smash beat us last week but it all is week to week at this age I saw it with my older son. The major difference between smash right now is they have one player that is a difference maker. That said it wouldnt be surprising to see smash lose this weekend in fav I would figure them to lose Enjoy the years with your boys it goes fast. In another year nobody cares who wins club tournaments
Smash has one of the weaker defenses out there. Old empire player and that’s about it. But I guess when you don’t have to play much defense because of JR(should be rising junior) it makes your defense look good.
Couple things smash D is good not great Goalie play is average and that’s part of defense. Jr is NOT a rising junior he plays on the 2020 team and always has played up I will tell you I know that as a FACT as my older boy was around that team plenty and I know the boy. This age is funny yes smash beat us last week but it all is week to week at this age I saw it with my older son. The major difference between smash right now is they have one player that is a difference maker. That said it wouldnt be surprising to see smash lose this weekend in fav I would figure them to lose Enjoy the years with your boys it goes fast. In another year nobody cares who wins club tournaments
And one goalie lives in Texas
What about smash's big super goalie? He told the other goalies at tryouts last fall they all sucked and he was flown in because he was the best in the country!
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
That’s where you’re wrong-he DID run around 5 kids, or let me rephrase that-he backup up and ball hogged his way ignoring his wide open teammates and scored. Your kid must not be a middie or attackaman. You people keep being pompous and obnoxious and thinking yours doesn’t stink. Everyone knows how you are
Wait till he is a 18yr old junior and has to go to an out of state boarding school as a 19yr old to finish high school. Sounds like a solid investment
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
Smash has one of the weaker defenses out there. Old empire player and that’s about it. But I guess when you don’t have to play much defense because of JR(should be rising junior) it makes your defense look good.
Couple things smash D is good not great Goalie play is average and that’s part of defense. Jr is NOT a rising junior he plays on the 2020 team and always has played up I will tell you I know that as a FACT as my older boy was around that team plenty and I know the boy. This age is funny yes smash beat us last week but it all is week to week at this age I saw it with my older son. The major difference between smash right now is they have one player that is a difference maker. That said it wouldnt be surprising to see smash lose this weekend in fav I would figure them to lose Enjoy the years with your boys it goes fast. In another year nobody cares who wins club tournaments
And one goalie lives in Texas
No he doesn't
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
No doubt, as far as youth lacrosse, I agree that it should be aged based. Please realize that 2022s are rising HS freshman. All bets and all crying is over. And JR ain’t close to being the oldest 2022 your kid wil face so stink it up.
Know the boy in question and you are allowing your jealousy or your sons to cloud reality. The boy has and always has played up with crush Repeat plays up! as much as I as well as others have questioned I have to give credit because how many people do you know that play up in travel. He has never re classed and started late. Would of been a very young 2021. Trust me on my sons team alone there are many many older than him. As painful as it is tip your cap there is a double re class on crush but it isn’t Jr the double reclass goes to st Anthony’s if your going to spew lies about kids at least have some facts
Smash has one of the weaker defenses out there. Old empire player and that’s about it. But I guess when you don’t have to play much defense because of JR(should be rising junior) it makes your defense look good.
Couple things smash D is good not great Goalie play is average and that’s part of defense. Jr is NOT a rising junior he plays on the 2020 team and always has played up I will tell you I know that as a FACT as my older boy was around that team plenty and I know the boy. This age is funny yes smash beat us last week but it all is week to week at this age I saw it with my older son. The major difference between smash right now is they have one player that is a difference maker. That said it wouldnt be surprising to see smash lose this weekend in fav I would figure them to lose Enjoy the years with your boys it goes fast. In another year nobody cares who wins club tournaments
This is spot on
[quote=Anonymous]So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
I read this and laughed. This is spot on. Smash defense is good. Their Attack and middies are good.
Just curious how is the goalie situation on 91 United?
United has 3 dedicated goalies. Smithtown East kid plays 3rd goalie on that team. He said first 2 goalies are real good, and one of them used to play on Smash. No goalie training or goalie coaches on that team though, all goalie training is paid for and done outside the team by the parents. Same at fogo.
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
That’s where you’re wrong-he DID run around 5 kids, or let me rephrase that-he backup up and ball hogged his way ignoring his wide open teammates and scored. Your kid must not be a middie or attackaman. You people keep being pompous and obnoxious and thinking yours doesn’t stink. Everyone knows how you are
I read this and laughed. This is spot on. Kid is a total hog. Smash defense is good. Their Attack and middies are good. But no one on this team will get any credit except for Jr. crazy thing is I think they would win the NLF this weekend without him.
Just like they did last year? Laughable smash is average without JR everyone knows that and it was on display before this year Express gets it done this weekend in a big way. Smash doesn’t even make finals
Hearing some turnover at igloo
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
So the rules state it’s by graduation year not age but it’s cheating??? I’m confused, how is it cheating if it’s within the rules.
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
So you’re saying your team could not stop one player??? That’s pretty sad.
Lacrosse is a team game. This isn’t 5th grade PAL where one kid runs around 5 kids and scored.
More losses like that to come my friend. Your program is going nowhere but down
That’s where you’re wrong-he DID run around 5 kids, or let me rephrase that-he backup up and ball hogged his way ignoring his wide open teammates and scored. Your kid must not be a middie or attackaman. You people keep being pompous and obnoxious and thinking yours doesn’t stink. Everyone knows how you are
I read this and laughed. This is spot on. Kid is a total hog. Smash defense is good. Their Attack and middies are good. But no one on this team will get any credit except for Jr. crazy thing is I think they would win the NLF this weekend without him.
Just like they did last year? Laughable smash is average without JR everyone knows that and it was on display before this year Express gets it done this weekend in a big way. Smash doesn’t even make finals
Agreed
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
Jesus Christ stop your crying! They will have to play against payers 16 and 17 years old come Spring on their high school team so please shut up and move on.
United has 3 dedicated goalies. Smithtown East kid plays 3rd goalie on that team. He said first 2 goalies are real good, and one of them used to play on Smash. No goalie training or goalie coaches on that team though, all goalie training is paid for and done outside the team by the parents. Same at fogo.
Its amazing how people know so much about different teams. You must work for news 12. Just for the record you are wrong. They provide training at both positions.
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
2 pool games for seeding purposes? an average team with a good draw will be able to play in championship bracket
What does your son think....or do you drive, pay AND do that for him too?
Question for all you united supporters, why are you playing in the B bracket?
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
And it’s mid July and kids and parents are shot. This yet another national championship. But don’t forget let’s do a camp for 3 days on Monday. Good concept, but let everyone exhale and give us a few weeks. I am of the opinion, top teams are not adding, and if they are... they know who.
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Looks like a very competitive field. Who's missing Igloo, who go beat by Smash last week by 10.
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Everyone (players and parents) is happy that Igloo will not be there
Tell me why tryout for 91? AA has JS show now and A playing a division lower giving no confidence there committed to 2nd team at 2022.
Question for all you united supporters, why are you playing in the B bracket?
well maybe spanking Josh for leaving 9D1 but United's poster has DLT phone number
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
Jesus Christ stop your crying! They will have to play against payers 16 and 17 years old come Spring on their high school
team so please shut up and move on.
Thanks Joe for info
2 pool games for seeding purposes? an average team with a good draw will be able to play in championship bracket
yes that's why united is not in the AA with JR playing for Crush United could squeeze in. Well just saying could be embarrassing
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Everyone (players and parents) is happy that Igloo will not be there
Speaking for everyone huh? Don’t speak for me. Igloo far from the team that most people have a problem with. At least have the ba#+s to state which team you’re from
2 pool games for seeding purposes? an average team with a good draw will be able to play in championship bracket
yes that's why united is not in the AA with JR playing for Crush United could squeeze in. Well just saying could be embarrassing
You really shouldn't drink so early in the morning.
If JR not playing for 2022 they have no chance. Average team without him. If express healthy they beat smash easily.
United has 3 dedicated goalies. Smithtown East kid plays 3rd goalie on that team. He said first 2 goalies are real good, and one of them used to play on Smash. No goalie training or goalie coaches on that team though, all goalie training is paid for and done outside the team by the parents. Same at fogo.
Its amazing how people know so much about different teams. You must work for news 12. Just for the record you are wrong. They provide training at both positions.
Kids are all run down and tired. Best lacrosse of the summer is long gone and teams looking to next year
Question for all you united supporters, why are you playing in the B bracket?
Not that need a non 91 parent to defend them. But why not? They swam in the deep end in summer, why not end the season on strong note? Is so bad to let the kids enjoy It and reap the success of their hard work. If they win, I suspect they’ll be in the mix. Let it go.
Tell me why tryout for 91? AA has JS show now and A playing a division lower giving no confidence there committed to 2nd team at 2022.
If you play for the AA team you get to learn valuable Lacrosse Lessons, like get the ball to X and then get out of the way. Is there any truth that Smash is changing their name to 91 Spallina?
Question for all you united supporters, why are you playing in the B bracket?
Not that need a non 91 parent to defend them. But why not? They swam in the deep end in summer, why not end the season on strong note? Is so bad to let the kids enjoy It and reap the success of their hard work. If they win, I suspect they’ll be in the mix. Let it go.
That’s the tough part with second teams that have some talent can they play with the best teams ? JM plays that packed in zone which is not fun to play against
United is an AA Team without a doubt can hang and beat most AA teams not all but most
The age is funny? His age is not funny. He should be going into his junior year of high school. Playing against rising freshmen. He should be the best player. He played with crush because that’s his age group.
Guy, let's get one thing straight. The player in question should not be a rising junior. There are plenty of 2022s older than him. By NY standards he should be a 2021, but again, there are plenty of 2022s older than him. Stop exaggerating.
The bottomline is that 13 and 14 year old kids that are really graduating in 2022 should not have to play against 15 and 16 year olds. It's not fair and it's cheating! It needs to change to age based not graduating year, simple as that.
Jesus Christ stop your crying! They will have to play against payers 16 and 17 years old come Spring on their high school
team so please shut up and move on.
Thanks Joe for info
I will stop my crying when all the stunad parents that swear their child is gonna be a lacrosse prodigy by CHEATING and holding their child back leave the game! If that kid needs that kind of advantage than he's not as good as all you stunads think he is ! The game is so much more fun to watch when all the kids are same age !!!!
Go on YouTube and watch united play Evergreen. United is not an AA team. Very far from it.
and everyone gets a trophy!!!!
Everyone always says you play against older kids in high school. Yes, but you also have older kids on your team. So it’s not really a solid rationale. Because it’s balanced in high school because both sides have older kids. That said, I have no issue with hold backs. And no I don’t have one, wish I did. The rules say grade based and it is using the rules to gain an advantage.
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Everyone (players and parents) is happy that Igloo will not be there
LOL! Parents and boys are all friends... only respect for each other. You clearly are from MD!
Express is not winning this tournament. Even though it is a pretty weak field overall. 91, express, crabs, laxachussets, hawks and primetime only good teams there. Other 15 or so teams are average teams. This is not the tournament we all thought it would be. But I guess that’s what happens when the NLF keeps teams out.
Everyone (players and parents) is happy that Igloo will not be there
LOL! Parents and boys are all friends... only respect for each other. You clearly are from MD!
Exactly
Go on YouTube and watch united play Evergreen. United is not an AA team. Very far from it.
Oh so one game shows that ? Your a joke
Go on YouTube and watch united play Evergreen. United is not an AA team. Very far from it.
Oh so one game shows that ? Your a joke
Well... just lost to Laxachusetts Navy at the NLF.
Go on YouTube and watch united play Evergreen. United is not an AA team. Very far from it.
Oh so one game shows that ? Your a joke
Well... just lost to Laxachusetts Navy at the NLF.
That says it all. Lax blue is their weakest t team.
NLF tournament is a joke with 4 91 team invited. Only 91 team worth inviting is 91NY the rest stink
I know hyperbole rules here but 91 Maryland is not a bad team.
91 united lost in first round of playoffs in the B bracket. Lost to laxachussets third team in pool play. Yeah that screams AA. Can everyone on that team please stop talking nonsense now.
You’re an stunad if you think that. I assume you think Express is solid and MD just beat them. They’ll play NY at noon. They kicked their butt last tourney. May be a different story this time, but they belong, so give them some credit.
You’re an stunad if you think that. I assume you think Express is solid and MD just beat them. They’ll play NY at noon. They kicked their butt last tourney. May be a different story this time, but they belong, so give them some credit.
91 MD + Texas kids in finals vs. Crabs + TX and NY kids.
What the heck are you talking about?
91 Md takes out Express and Smash. Very impressive
In your opinions which 2022 Long Island club lax team (A and AA) would be the best choice to tryout/join? In terms of coaching and development.....
In your opinions which 2022 Long Island club lax team (A and AA) would be the best choice to tryout/join? In terms of coaching and development.....
Not Express at this age group! They give you zero infomation about the upcoming year. Just show up, s/u and pay the fees. Ridiculous.
Yes keep paying thank you
...and that's the tricky part....unless your son (or daughter) is a top AA player, in my experience, you'll have to work to get the information and guidance you're looking for. Also have to be strong enough to ask, not whine about what's not being handed to you, even tho you're a paying customer. It's not right, but it's just different than almost any other thing you'll buy because you're kid is directly affected and in the hands of people who have many many kids and parents all looking to get the most attention and the most recognition. Emotions can run extremely high. Navigate intelligently looking for maximum development, maximum playing time, maximum fun and interest for the kid, while assessing what level they are eventually looking for (HS, D3, D2, D1) while being VERY honest and realistic and while balancing travel and cost. How badly the kid wants it is extremely critical. Whew. This is easy for few, but you need to be able to establish a line of communication with the coach or director that is comfortable for both. Without that, frustration ensues, but, it can be found at Express or any other club...if all these things match well for you personally.
Good luck!
Seen at Bing - the Penguin in deep conversation with Junior’s dad. Is the Penguin leaving the Arctic Circle to go back to the land of Orange?
...and that's the tricky part....unless your son (or daughter) is a top AA player, in my experience, you'll have to work to get the information and guidance you're looking for. Also have to be strong enough to ask, not whine about what's not being handed to you, even tho you're a paying customer. It's not right, but it's just different than almost any other thing you'll buy because you're kid is directly affected and in the hands of people who have many many kids and parents all looking to get the most attention and the most recognition. Emotions can run extremely high. Navigate intelligently looking for maximum development, maximum playing time, maximum fun and interest for the kid, while assessing what level they are eventually looking for (HS, D3, D2, D1) while being VERY honest and realistic and while balancing travel and cost. How badly the kid wants it is extremely critical. Whew. This is easy for few, but you need to be able to establish a line of communication with the coach or director that is comfortable for both. Without that, frustration ensues, but, it can be found at Express or any other club...if all these things match well for you personally.
Good luck!
Well written.....You need to know who is coaching you child. Your child can grow as a player on a C,B,A,AA team.... If, and only if, you get a great dedicated coach. Unfortunately, at the larger clubs, the best coaches are coaching AA teams. Other teams get filled by family members, friends or college kids. Then its just luck of the draw.....buyer beware. Personally we have had great seasons and terrible seasons at the same club. Carefully look at the tryout info produced club's websites. Less info given, more to be concerned about.
The sad thing is that for the money you spend, you would think the club would have some sort of plan for these kids. They have been doing it long enough The total lack of communication from the directors infers the could careless as long as the money rolls in.
At the same time, parents seem to never voice their concerns to the club out of fear. Fear of what, who knows.
Seems obvious to me....fear that they blow it, aggravate the coach/director and the kid will pay for the mistake.
Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.
Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.
I find that hard to believe. JR get 100% of the touches on 91. On igloo he is the man and he will be relegated to just get the ball to JR and clear out on 91. Also other coach’s son is a lefty.
How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.
Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around
Everybody was saying the Rebels will be a money grab or a shoot off of the Outlaws a while back! Can't wait to see what kids show up tomorrow. Their gonna have to cook a lot of crow to feed all the nay Sayers, haha!
Everybody was saying the Rebels will be a money grab or a shoot off of the Outlaws a while back! Can't wait to see what kids show up tomorrow. Their gonna have to cook a lot of crow to feed all the nay Sayers, haha!
Only time will tell but I have to admit, they are impressing me already.
Within an hour of registrating, they called and thanked us. Asked if we had any questions.....That is one more called than we ever received from large clubs in 6 years!
They already said one team per age group so they will be cuts.... no money grab. Coaches are named and so are the tourneys.
Still a long way to go but at least they are organized!
How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.
Yes light at this age group but it seems like many returning players from 91 are not attending.
Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around
Look at the igloo damage control going on here. I think the best igloo kids realize that team is sinking fast
Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.
Ball hog
91 united lost in first round of playoffs in the B bracket. Lost to laxachussets third team in pool play. Yeah that screams AA. Can everyone on that team please stop talking nonsense now.
United lost to Laxachussets Navy, their worst team, and lost to CSC, a Texas B Team, at NLF. United also lost to two school JV teams at Hills vs Autism tournament the week before.
How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.
Yes light at this age group but it seems like many returning players from 91 are not attending.
Makes sense. Teams like Smash add via recruitment not at tryouts, sorry it’s the truth. United players are with the new club. And that leaves very little interest in playing at 2022 level for this club in my opinion. It’s 9th grade kids don’t move that much. They either stick with their club or just do the school fall and summer teams, which have become in some cases nice options.
Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.
Ball hog
Was never on 91 - and we all know who the true ball hog is. It’s funny how they lose their last tournament because he wasn’t there and it’s crickets all of a sudden.
Does anyone know if there is a possibility of any movement in 91 Smash in regard to the goalie position? I believe the first goalie is a relative of coach, etc. Obviously he's guaranteed a spot. Any possibility of replacement of the other goalie with a new recruit or is he guaranteed a spot as well? Just curious.
Also, in regard to Igloo 2022AA anyone have any idea how talented their goalies are. How is the talent on that team as a whole? I heard there may be a lot of changes.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Lots of talent at the tryouts today... not so sure they just take the outlaws guys when they can have one of best teams around based on the talent.
Does anyone know if there is a possibility of any movement in 91 Smash in regard to the goalie position? I believe the first goalie is a relative of coach, etc. Obviously he's guaranteed a spot. Any possibility of replacement of the other goalie with a new recruit or is he guaranteed a spot as well? Just curious.
Also, in regard to Igloo 2022AA anyone have any idea how talented their goalies are. How is the talent on that team as a whole? I heard there may be a lot of changes.
Why don’t you go to the tryouts and see for yourself???
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Not what I heard from some people at tryouts today! Heard there were a few elite players from the outlaws and the rest were B level at best.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Rebels is not the Outlaws. Some Outlaw kids will try out. But in the end they will take the best kids at tryouts.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
That’s if the whole team come over. Don’t think for a second that some players tryout at another club or two. There is always uncertainty, the team didn’t do any better or worse this past season and players will explore moving.
Rebekah will be very very good this upcoming year. All the top players moving over
The Outlaws team from last year was good, definitely A. They need to add to be “very very” good. They have some players that can contribute on the top 3. Why wouldn’t those kids test the water and see? If your son has a desire to play in college, they really should look at 91 or Express. But only if they can play. Being on the bench is a waste. That’s why I say test the waters. But I do t see a starter from the top 3 moving to a new club.
Seems to me many of top kids will be switching to Rebels think this team will be one of the tops in this grade
Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around
Look at the igloo damage control going on here. I think the best igloo kids realize that team is sinking fast
So crazy because igloo was the best at so many tournaments last summer. Hard to believe the team change so much.
Does anyone have any info on the United Tryout?
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
Lots of talent at the tryouts today... not so sure they just take the outlaws guys when they can have one of best teams around based on the talent.
Agreed this is a team to watch
Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.
That’s if the whole team come over. Don’t think for a second that some players tryout at another club or two. There is always uncertainty, the team didn’t do any better or worse this past season and players will explore moving.
Lets face facts, the Rebels will be almost the same as Outlaws Select last year. A good team with some great players! They will be a B+/A team again and hopefully won't duck the competition this year. Even though they went to a lot of away tournaments and still got there butts kicked!
Big jump for a 2022 to a brand new club....... especially so late in their lax career.
Very tempting.......lets see if the can keep up their customer service.....maybe the big clubs will have to wale up.3ky
Seen at Bing - the Penguin in deep conversation with Junior’s dad. Is the Penguin leaving the Arctic Circle to go back to the land of Orange?
WOW you saw the dads talking that means JR and ML are teaming up thanks for reporting TMZ
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Seems to me many of top kids will be switching to Rebels think this team will be one of the tops in this grade
Thanks for the inside skinny, Carc. Yawn
Neither son will play D1.
You obviously have not been through this before... don’t need to be on best team to be recruited... period
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Correct, but playing with Express will increase those looks and that’s fact. They have better contact points. I know from personal experience. Believe or not, don’t care, your lost opportunity after this huge investment you have made.
Hello to those of you who feel it necessary to name call parents of young athletes; type the initials of the athletes; paying attention to who is talking to who on the sideline. YOU ARE DISGUSTING. Why to you care? Pay attention to your child and your business. Keep it in perspective -- this is lacrosse, a game - no one here is saving the world.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Islip has seven guys going D1 (5 seniors, 1 junior, and 1 sophomore)
Two played 91after riptide
Two played legacy after riptide
Two played outlaws after riptide
One played bluefish after riptide
(Rutgers, Army, Navy, Binghamton, Wagner, Hofstra and Nova)
Does anyone know if there is a possibility of any movement in 91 Smash in regard to the goalie position? I believe the first goalie is a relative of coach, etc. Obviously he's guaranteed a spot. Any possibility of replacement of the other goalie with a new recruit or is he guaranteed a spot as well? Just curious.
Also, in regard to Igloo 2022AA anyone have any idea how talented their goalies are. How is the talent on that team as a whole? I heard there may be a lot of changes.
Oh yeah? Who did you hear from? If you already heard why ask?
Team 91 tuition for 2022 both teams $3800
Plus 3.5% processing fee (money grab)
So actually $3933-
Team 91 tuition for 2022 both teams $3800
Plus 3.5% processing fee (money grab)
So actually $3933-
So can I pay by check? Total bs......what I s next..... lost lax ball fee?
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Team 91 tuition for 2022 both teams $3800
Plus 3.5% processing fee (money grab)
So actually $3933-
So can I pay by check? Total bs......what I s next..... lost lax ball fee?
Only the teams connected through Dynamic lacrosse (91 and Empire) are charging a 3.5% processing fee. They added that fee to tryout cost as well. Complete money grab. Totally shows you what that organisation is about.
The only club they didnt charge it on is East Coast Elite lacrosse which they just created after Ducks coaches walked away from Dynamic and formed their own organisation umder R.U.S H..
Now Dynamic is scrambling to rebrand and desperately trying to get people to go to the new East Coast lacrosseclub by offering cheap $45 tryout fee. (Although they are still keeping tuition high.) So they have not added 3.5% processing fee to that tryout fee. Unknown if they will add it to tuition in the end.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
Team 91 tuition for 2022 both teams $3800
Plus 3.5% processing fee (money grab)
So actually $3933-
So can I pay by check? Total bs......what I s next..... lost lax ball fee?
And parents will still shell out money for a kids game. Put it into your retirement fund people or set up a 529 plan. Oh, I forgot you have that fresh new credit card in you draw with the 15K limit to use beginning in September. Better yet, use the line of credit against your home.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
I would make the argument that these would still just as successful without Express. Chan recruites very talented players. Sure coaching is part of it but the hard work amd talent is all the player. Too bad Chan only care to coach the 15-20 starts of the 40+ players on his team.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
I would make the argument that these would still just as successful without Express. Chan recruites very talented players. Sure coaching is part of it but the hard work amd talent is all the player. Too bad Chan only care to coach the 15-20 starts of the 40+ players on his team.
True, and I would be more interested in players in college now. So how is excelling from LI now? The list from last year is interesting if we go down to Honorable mentions, we see a few more LI boys named such as O,Keefe (91), Kenny Massa (Outlaws), Danny Bucaro (WM), Chris Gray(Express)
There is no one club that is producing all the college stars
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
Yes, I missed Guterding, hek of a player. Interesting that he went to the Salisbury school to do a PG year before going to Duke. Molloy was great in 2017 as well. Schrieber and Earhart are also great player, from LI but much older so kind of irrelevant now.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
I would make the argument that these would still just as successful without Express. Chan recruites very talented players. Sure coaching is part of it but the hard work amd talent is all the player. Too bad Chan only care to coach the 15-20 starts of the 40+ players on his team.
No argument, the statement I was responding to was no club stand out. The Express does. And that list is longer. And Express does recruit, but so does other clubs, but a lot say yes to the Express for a reason. Are the roster sizes big, yes, but people stay for a reason.... results. I would not allow my son to do that, I am the parent I guide those choices. But other people’s choices seem to annoy people. To each his own.
Team 91 rosters starting to come out.
So far they have release 2nd grade 2029 Pride team
35 players listed...... what?????
They should rename that Romper Room
Also released 3rd grade 2028 Orange team
24 players listed .... still too many
And 3rd grade 2028 White team
28 players... riduculous.Money Grab. They dont care at all about this team.
Just tells you to expect overloaded rosters for older grades as well.
Can you say money grab?
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
What high school did they play for? Club is a joke, only useful if your HS team is below average. Guterding is a product of GC, Berge Massapequa
Team 91 rosters starting to come out.
So far they have release 2nd grade 2029 Pride team
35 players listed...... what?????
They should rename that Romper Room
Also released 3rd grade 2028 Orange team
24 players listed .... still too many
And 3rd grade 2028 White team
28 players... riduculous.Money Grab. They dont care at all about this team.
Just tells you to expect overloaded rosters for older grades as well.
Can you say money grab?
While i agree that the numbers are high not everyone will accept so who knows what the true numbers will be. The tuition is a bigger issue at this age. This program because of size and purchasing power gets equipment for next to nothing and enter their own own tournaments so that is all profit. I guess to your point the money grab is out of control.
Wake up people with the cost of these teams !
Team 91 rosters starting to come out.
So far they have release 2nd grade 2029 Pride team
35 players listed...... what?????
They should rename that Romper Room
Also released 3rd grade 2028 Orange team
24 players listed .... still too many
And 3rd grade 2028 White team
28 players... riduculous.Money Grab. They dont care at all about this team.
Just tells you to expect overloaded rosters for older grades as well.
Can you say money grab?
While i agree that the numbers are high not everyone will accept so who knows what the true numbers will be. The tuition is a bigger issue at this age. This program because of size and purchasing power gets equipment for next to nothing and enter their own own tournaments so that is all profit. I guess to your point the money grab is out of control.
Anyone who doesnt accept, that slot will be offered to the next person on the tryout list. The number of people on the roster is the number they intend to have on the team. The only reason they would have less is if they rN out if people from tryouts to offer the slot to.
And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.
True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!
Lets look at the past couple years of D1 accolades for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team All Americans from LI. What clubs did they play for? I bet a few didn't even play club at all, or stop after 9th grade. Any data would be appreciated
Last Year All Americans D1 LI, taking into consideration that most LI boys are 1-2 years younger than the average college player. These are the clubs they played for:
Berge: Jesters
Reh: Team LI
Arceri: Sweetlax
Tigh: Express
Conocanon: Unknown
Looks like there is no one team that stands out in producing the best college players on LI. It most definitely is not team 91
Here is few you might know
Guterding - Express (all time ncaa goals leader)
Molloy - Express (tewaaraton winner)
Schrieber- Express (MLL MVP and Team USA)
Earhart- Express (Team USA mvp)
What high school did they play for? Club is a joke, only useful if your HS team is below average. Guterding is a product of GC, Berge Massapequa
I wouldn't call club a joke. Jesters and TLI, don't exist anymore, though. But those below did get extra exposure playing for Chammy and St. A's
Molloy - St. A's
Schreiber - St. A's
Earhart - Chammy
Add
Kavanuagh - Chammy
Conocanon - St. A's
Tigh - Chammy
Does anyone have any info on the United Tryout?
Wow all the stunads in the world on this forum an no one knows anything about the tryout?