With regard to LI talent... Yes there are 5 to 10 teams that are very good in 2017. The top 5, will match up well with most teams from MD. (if they are the same age, sorry, always been an issue) The Turtles are on another planet. No, not a turtle parent. If a team from MD beats them, it has got to be an age deal. However, there are so many more clubs on LI, must be close to 30 now. That's not taking into account the public school HS coaches from top programs that make their kids play on their own team. For example, Ward Melville, Smithtown, Sayville, SWR, Sachem, West Islip, etc, etc. One could take the top 25 kids from the 6 schools mentioned and beat any travel team from anywhere. You could field it with 25 top tier FUTURE D1 players... The point is, the depth of talent on LI is far deeper than anywhere else in the country. With so many kids on so many teams, the top LI travel teams while all excellent, are in effect watered down. One could say it's an embarrassment of riches...